What Happened to Hillary?

**raycarey** · 02-10-2017, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

the rush video: the working man of the u.s.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

the working man of america

errrr....the members of rush are canadian.

and....didn't you flounce from the forum like a big girl's dress?

**Farangrakthai** · 02-10-2017, 08:31 PM

yep, grandpa (snaff) and unfortunately the td mod are morons and will delete this discussion in the morning (because they are on the other side of the issue or are a fan of ant).

**Farangrakthai** · 02-10-2017, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

didn't you flounce from the forum like a big girl's dress?

ooh, great come back, ray (you used that before, if you dont' recall).

anyways, agree or disagree and why?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

the rush video: the working man of the u.s.:

what have the democrats done for them? their standard of living hasn't increased since the 70s. did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

will the trade deals of clinton 2 help them? no

trump cancelled the asia trade deal and promises to make trade deals that help the american worker.

america's a service economy, but with a manufacturing base.

**raycarey** · 02-10-2017, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

you used that before

yet you still haven't addressed it.....you just keep dodging it.

why is that?

simple question....didn't you flounce from the forum?

**Farangrakthai** · 02-10-2017, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

yet you still haven't addressed it.....you just keep dodging it.

why is that?

simple question....didn't you flounce from the forum?

your memory is very weak. i asked you if you would prefer if i didn't post here and you said "no".

**raycarey** · 02-10-2017, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

your memory is very weak. i asked you if you would prefer if i didn't post here and you said "no".

i posted i didn't care one way or the other. and i really don't.

but what is curious to me is why someone who would make such a dramatic flounce from a forum would return to the very thread he flounced so dramatically from.

but hey, whatever.

back on topic......what happened is that hillary lost....i wonder if/when trump is going to get over it.

**Farangrakthai** · 02-10-2017, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

back on topic....

so, go on then:

what have the democrats done for them? their standard of living hasn't increased since the 70s. did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

will the trade deals of clinton 2 help them? no

trump cancelled the asia trade deal and promises to make trade deals that help the american worker.

america's a service economy, but with a manufacturing base.

**Farangrakthai** · 02-10-2017, 09:08 PM

waiting for your reply, ray.

**raycarey** · 02-10-2017, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

what have the democrats done for them? their standard of living hasn't increased since the 70s.

you write that as if democrats controlled the legislative and executive branches of government since the 70s. which they didn't....not even close.

and bush 41 was desperate to sign nafta into law before he left office, but he ran out of time.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

more house republicans voted for nafta than did democrats.
more senate republicans voted for nafta than did democrats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...._ratification

**Grampa** · 02-10-2017, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

and bush 41 was desperate to sign nafta into law before he left office, but he ran out of time.

GHB signed it, but it will Bill Clinton that lobbied massively to get the Dem majority in Congress to pass it. Clinton was instrumental.

Remember Clinton using Al Gore in the NAFTA debate against Ross Perot.

**Farangrakthai** · 05-10-2017, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

you write that as if democrats controlled the legislative and executive branches of government since the 70s. which they didn't....not even close.

and bush 41 was desperate to sign nafta into law before he left office, but he ran out of time.

more house republicans voted for nafta than did democrats.
more senate republicans voted for nafta than did democrats

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_...._ratification

that may all be true, but we're talking about 2016 and hillary was seen as another free trader who wouldn't take the working class into account when making trade deals while trump flat out said he'd pull out of tpp and he did.

of course, there are good arguments for joining the tpp (prevent more chinese influence in asia), but, IMO, hillary lost because the rust belt voters didn't trust her to have their backs and not because of all this russian conspiracy theory nonsense that hillary is still talking about to this day.

heard her go on about it and all the reasons she lost for an hour,

a couple weeks ago in one of my favorite podcasts "politics and more", presented by the new yorker magazine:

https://itunes.apple.com/th/podcast/...=1000392987234

it was pitiful to hear he whine like that.

some on this thread say what the heck are you guys doing still talking about hillary, without acknowledging the fact that hillary's the one who's still talking, as it were.

Hillary Clinton just floated the possibility of contesting the 2016 election - CNNPolitics

But in an interview Monday with NPR's Terry Gross, Clinton raised that critique up a notch -- not only questioning the legitimacy of Trump's presidency but refusing to rule out the possibility of contesting the results if Russian collusion is proven by special counsel Bob Mueller.

**raycarey** · 05-10-2017, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

we're talking about 2016

yeah, i guess we are if you move the goal posts....because this is what you posted:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

**raycarey** · 05-10-2017, 09:33 PM

and btw, this is a bit rich...

you posted....

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

what have the democrats done for them? their standard of living hasn't increased since the 70s.

and then literally 1 minute later...

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

waiting for your reply, ray.

i eventually responded with....

Originally Posted by raycarey

you write that as if democrats controlled the legislative and executive branches of government since the 70s. which they didn't....not even close.

Originally Posted by raycarey

more house republicans voted for nafta than did democrats.
more senate republicans voted for nafta than did democrats

which led you to pathetically come back with...

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

that may all be true, but

and yet you wonder why you have no credibility.

**Farangrakthai** · 05-10-2017, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

yeah, i guess we are if you move the goal posts....because this is what you posted:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

yes, but that was in the context of trump vs. clinton:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

the rush video: the working man of the u.s.:

what have the democrats done for them? their standard of living hasn't increased since the 70s. did the trade deals of clinton 1 help the working class of america? no

will the trade deals of clinton 2 help them? no

trump cancelled the asia trade deal and promises to make trade deals that help the american worker.

america's a service economy, but with a manufacturing base.

**Farangrakthai** · 05-10-2017, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

and yet you wonder why you have no credibility.

"have no credibility" with whom, praytell?

the way you post that it sounds like you are proclaiming that raycarey has "credibility" while standing on the speakers' corner of teak door.

well, i guess, ray, that accomplishment will be in your obituary: "raycarey, a man who had great credibility on teakdoor.com where he contributed more than 10,000 posts".

**raycarey** · 05-10-2017, 09:53 PM

well, if i did a big girly flounce as often as you do, i'd likely have fewer posts.

**Farangrakthai** · 05-10-2017, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

well, if i did a big girly flounce as often as you do, i'd likely have fewer posts.

Originally Posted by raycarey

furry muff

**wasabi** · 17-10-2017, 04:33 AM

There's this daily weekly radio show on BBC radio 4 called "Woman's hour" and the presenter Sue just loves Hiliary, so much so she's had her on the show for years and during the last US elections Sue plugged Hiliary to be the next female president. They where so confident of her win they even had a date after victory when she would soon appear on the show, and Sue could show off her new friend.
Monday the show starts and they announced that Hiliary was going to be on today's show.
At the end of the hour Sue ended the show with a fighting spirit, "Everybody's been stood up at sometime in their lives, Hiliary will be rebooked and she will appear on this show "
What went wrong, Sues buddy let her down today.

**birding** · 17-10-2017, 08:46 AM

Hillary blaming Nigel Farage for losing is latest excuse

Brexit and Nigel Farage! Hillary Clinton?s latest excuse for losing the US election

According to Fox there are now 24 excuses for her losing.

Here's a List of Everyone & Everything Hillary Has Blamed for Her Loss | Fox News Insider

**David48atTD** · 17-10-2017, 10:21 AM

Now, I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton.

But I watched this unique Australian interview of her ... and enjoyed it thoroughly.

Some promo clips ...

The Hillary Clinton I met in New York for our recent interview with Four Corners was an angrier, less guarded version of the
person we have come to know over her decades in public life.

I have been following Hillary Clinton's career since the mid-1990s as a journalist in Washington reporting on the first term of Bill Clinton's presidency.

The Hillary Clinton I knew then would not have said publicly she had been "shivved" by the former head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, James Comey.

She referred to Comey's handling of the investigation into her use of a private email server as secretary of state, in particular the letter written by
Comey days before the election re opening the investigation: "He did shiv me, yeah … we also know that opponents of mine, like former mayor Rudy Giuliani,
knew something was coming.

"So there was clearly an effort to derail my campaign at the end."

**David48atTD** · 17-10-2017, 10:24 AM

**David48atTD** · 17-10-2017, 10:25 AM

**David48atTD** · 17-10-2017, 10:28 AM

The full interview ... Hillary Clinton: The Interview - Four Corners

May or may-not open, depending on your local settings

**Davis Knowlton** · 17-10-2017, 10:45 AM

She really is currently coming off as a sad, bitter old shrew. She lost through her own failures. Trump won, in part, because people hated her more than they feared him. She should just fade away....but she won't.

**harrybarracuda** · 17-10-2017, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

She really is currently coming off as a sad, bitter old shrew. She lost through her own failures. Trump won, in part, because people hated her more than they feared him. She should just fade away....but she won't.

She's got a book to sell.

Although she should have called it "I fucked up".

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