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    More British people want to leave the EU today without a deal, right now, than any other option...

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    Galloway truly is past it. Silly fucker, but good at fucking over pompous Septic senators too stupid to know how to debate off piste and against a foe who doesn't believe American politics in the Senate should all be about sucking cock. Mind you, most Oxford debating chaps could run ri gs around most septic senators.

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    1 yr extension is a poison pill, the EU has to reject it, if they don't, then it's clear the whole thing is fooked

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    Is Buttchugger a Doctor Bob multi? or tuther way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    1 yr extension is a poison pill, the EU has to reject it, if they don't, then it's clear the whole thing is fooked
    If the granny grabber had just refused an extension last time it would all be over now and we would have been out on March 29. All France fault we remain in the EU. Do the EU really want another 5 years of Farage and co? Refuse an extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Did the UK join Schengen while I was posting?
    Not yet, but like so many things, it all becomes compulsory post Lisbon Treaty. Join the Euro, loss of veto, tax harmonisation and EU defence forces, to mention just a few.

    You are all arguing about pointless stuff when it comes to the true aims of EU and integration. Nothing is optional, it’s just totalitarian centralized everything, in a supposedly once size fits all strait jacket. It does not do anything for individual member states apart from ceding control to people who abuse power and ignore any attempt to admonish them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Have you thought that they might be the ones that know what is at stake and what they are doing? It might just be you who doesn't know the full implications of leaving the EU without an agreement.
    As I have just explained, they clearly don’t understand the remain option in all its tawdry guises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b View Post
    What it means is we get an ersatz referendum. The tories are dead in the water and so, unless they come out plainly against Brexit, are Labour. The Euro election will be a competition between whatever bunch of yobbos Farage cobbles together and a coalition of remainers including the lib dems. It’ll be the best indicator yet of whether or not voters have changed their minds about brexit and probably have the highest turnout ever of any European election in the UK.
    What a ludicrous supposition. It is actually an opportunity across the MS to register a vote in opposition to further unbridled integration of a failing socialist superstate.

    FFS if a UK democracy is at an impasse, how do think the rest of the EU feels about it?

    Youre about to find out.

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    Should be a good chance to paralyze the EU parliament with all the gains anti EU parties in a lot of countries are going to make.

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    Its odd how some papers and media are suggesting that part of any extension agreement will be for UK MEPs to not actively take part in EU business post elections; how can that be signed up to by our Govt? If say UKIPs successor fields a load of candidates and they are successful, then how are they going to be forced to not take their places etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    Its odd how some papers and media are suggesting that part of any extension agreement will be for UK MEPs to not actively take part in EU business post elections; how can that be signed up to by our Govt? If say UKIPs successor fields a load of candidates and they are successful, then how are they going to be forced to not take their places etc?
    By putting in checkpoints, say every month or so. If at one of these checkpoints UK representatives have been judged to have been disruptive then out the UK goes. I realise that's no threat whatsoever to leavers, it's a way for the EU to protect itself.

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    Doris will sign up to anything, waiting to see what cringeworthy deal and whatever else she will have conceded to Merkel and the granny grabber later.

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    this week we have a golden opportunity to leave without a deal, we should take it and then the trading negotiations can start for real. we have nothing, nothing whatsoever to fear and everything to gain from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    this week we have a golden opportunity to leave without a deal, we should take it and then the trading negotiations can start for real. we have nothing, nothing whatsoever to fear and everything to gain from this
    My fingers are crossed. I hope it happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    this week we have a golden opportunity to leave without a deal, we should take it and then the trading negotiations can start for real. we have nothing, nothing whatsoever to fear and everything to gain from this.
    Following a hard Brexit, if the UK returns to EU negotiations the best case scenario will be Maybot's deal again or more likely another version with the UK making even more concessions.

    You are utterly deluded if you think Maybot's deal will magically vanish following a Hard Brexit or that somehow the UK will be in a stronger negotiating position.
    Last edited by foobar; 09-04-2019 at 09:39 PM.

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    There won't be a hard Brexit as parliament has already legislated against it. We aren't leaving, not this side of a general election anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    this week we have a golden opportunity to leave without a deal, we should take it and then the trading negotiations can start for real. we have nothing, nothing whatsoever to fear and everything to gain from this.
    Certainly nothing to fear if you live in an Isaan sty. Those of us who live in the civilised world hear the barbarians at the gates.

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    ^^
    Not sure its set in stone quite yet, there is still a permutation or two lurking that could cause a HB to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    ^^
    Not sure its set in stone quite yet, there is still a permutation or two lurking that could cause a HB to happen.
    A50 would be revoked stopping us leaving with no deal if no extension is agreed. If Doris had any intention of taking us out we would be out already.

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    the EU has to make the decision now, like we had to for drafting the agreement because Maybot team was completely out of it

    same same here, nobody is taking the right decision, and they stand there arguing and doing nothing. In 1 year they will still be arguing about a REF2

    best for the EU to take the decision and stop the misery, just do nothing, and watch the Brits squeal in horror over the default hard brexit

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    Both Merkel and Macron have no objections to another extension it's only the length of the extension that has to be agreed. We aren't leaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Not yet, but like so many things, it all becomes compulsory post Lisbon Treaty. Join the Euro, loss of veto, tax harmonisation and EU defence forces, to mention just a few.

    You are all arguing about pointless stuff when it comes to the true aims of EU and integration. Nothing is optional, it’s just totalitarian centralized everything, in a supposedly once size fits all strait jacket. It does not do anything for individual member states apart from ceding control to people who abuse power and ignore any attempt to admonish them.
    Stop posting rubbish. The UK have opt-outs and they are permanent. The UK doesn't have to join the Euro or Schengen ever. You are mis-informed if you think otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    It would be pedantic to say that it isn't an open door policy to EU citizens. They can use e-passport gates and unless they have a serious criminal conviction their passport is an automatic keycard.

    How can the question be irrelevant. I asked you if Japqn should have freedom of movement with China. They'd never do it in a million years.
    It is not pedantic at all. I cross borders all the time within the EU and never have to go through passport control. That's what I would term an open door policy. To go to the UK, I have to go through passport control. There are fast tracks but it isn't open door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    It's an open door in that passport control checks you have a keycard,
    An open door in the sense that you need a key to get in.

    Only Smeg could come up with that one.

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