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    It's time to put a stop to the madness that is a no-deal BREXIT. Nobody takes it seriously as a bargaining chip. It's like holding a gun to your temple screaming 'I'll do it you know' in front of bemused shoppers.

    One in three UK firms plan for no-deal Brexit relocation, IoD says

    Survey finds surge of smaller companies activating plans to move operations abroad.


    Nearly one in three British businesses are planning to relocate some of their operations abroad or have already shifted them to cope with a hard Brexit, according to a leading lobby group.
    The Institute of Directors (IoD) warned that 29% of firms in a survey of 1,200 members believed Brexit posed a significant risk to their operations in the UK and had either moved part of their businesses abroad already or were planning to do so.


    More than one in 10 had already set up operations outside the UK as the prospect of a no-deal Brexit becomes more likely amid Westminster gridlock. Most firms considering a move were looking to open offices inside the European Union, said the IoD, which represents 30,000 firms.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...xit-iod-survey

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    1 in 3 British firms planning to move jobs to the EU yet only 1 in 10 British firms exports to the EU. So just more laughable made up bollox from the Guardian. The once respected Guardian really has become a laughing stock of late.

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    Did The Guardian claim those 1 in 3 export to Europe?

    They may be relying on supplies from the continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Did The Guardian claim those 1 in 3 export to Europe?

    They may be relying on supplies from the continent.
    It's a bollox made up article as is the majority of the anti Brexit guff the Guardian spouts these days. Do you have any idea how many companies there are in the UK? Get that figure and you will understand the article is akin to me asking 10 guys down the pub who wants a hard Brexit and 9 say yes then me claiming 90% of all Brits want a hard Brexit. FACT.

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    ^ How many of those companies are one-man-shows and hairdressers and suchlike? Ignore these and keep to those with 50+ employees to get a more representative figure of how many are directly or indirectly involved with the EU.

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    ^7400^
    Did he get it?

    Can't speak for you lot but I'm confident of crossing a road unscathed but still look first, and if despite this something goes wrong I'm covered by insurance.

    And I know people holding more than one passport for convenience, economy, utility, and emergency evac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    1 in 3 British firms planning to move jobs to the EU yet only 1 in 10 British firms exports to the EU. So just more laughable made up bollox from the Guardian. The once respected Guardian really has become a laughing stock of late.
    When was it respected? Not in my time!

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    ^ Still prefer The Sun and Daily Mail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    It's time to put a stop to the madness that is a no-deal BREXIT. Nobody takes it seriously as a bargaining chip. It's like holding a gun to your temple screaming 'I'll do it you know' in front of bemused shoppers.
    By not having the option of a no-deal, it's like giving your gun to armed bandits and trying to negotiate with them how little of your money you'll give them.

    But anyway, both the EU and the UK want a deal but if we are unable to come to a deal that both sides can accept, then both sides shoud have the option of walking away without one. It would be madness not to.

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    ^ yes. Perhaps the EU are fine and dandy, we just have different aims and a different future. Good luck to them and bye bye, all the best.

    Of course, they are fuked and they know it...

    It's amazing that some folks on this thread can see nothing but disaster for the UK while everything is roses in Europe. The reality is that both are going through difficult periods, nobody can predict where we'll be in 12, 24 or 60 months time, but I'm betting that our relatively rich little island will end up in a better place than the desperate economies, politics and social circumstances of the EU.
    Cycling should be banned!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    1 in 3 British firms planning to move jobs to the EU yet only 1 in 10 British firms exports to the EU. So just more laughable made up bollox from the Guardian.


    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    Did The Guardian claim those 1 in 3 export to Europe?

    They may be relying on supplies from the continent.
    He's a bit slow, you know.

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    This article 24 is interesting, 10 years of continuing trade, no need for an Irish backstop or to panic. I suggest, we leave, the offer the EU money for article 24 status partnership.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    It's amazing that some folks on this thread can see nothing but disaster for the UK while everything is roses in Europe. The reality is that both are going through difficult periods
    There are very few (or no) folks maintaining that, from what I can see. You're just adding it to caricature opposing views, possibly without realising you're doing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    nobody can predict where we'll be in 12, 24 or 60 months time,
    Obviously nobody can predict that with absolute certainty, agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    I'm betting that our relatively rich little island will end up in a better place than the desperate economies, politics and social circumstances of the EU.
    You think that will be true in 12 or 24 months time after BREXIT?

    If so I'm pretty confident you're in cloud cuckoo land.

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    "The rules are the rules, you cannot change the rules (except when Frau says change/ignore the rules)!" - Verhofstadt

    Mogg grills, Verhofstadt squirms.

    Illegal bailouts? They're only allowed when Frau says bail out Deutsche Bank while Napoleon hops around for attention in the background since French banks are also at her mercy.

    Quite simply, Mediterranean EU states are insolvent, eastern members frustrated with the waste, abuse, corruption and direction, caught in the Venus fly trap, with the spectre of PIIGS rising while France and Germany build a totalitarian Empire whihc they will fight over later. Well, not quite fight, more like repeat history.

    And for those of our cheerleaders with no coherent response, I suggest you pick up on the glaring spellink errors or talk about piss and nappy rash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    This article 24 is interesting, 10 years of continuing trade, no need for an Irish backstop or to panic. I suggest, we leave, the offer the EU money for article 24 status partnership.

    This was proposed on LBC by a Cambridge law prof last week, claiming that his one-page summary to Downing Street could have avoided 2 years of farce.

    Afaik he hasn't yet committed suicide in a field or met with an accident.

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    ^^Huhuh huhuh you missed dat he torks like Hitler.

    Huhuh Huhuh

    And shouldn't it be 'Rees Mogg DESTROYS Verhofstadt' in YT speak?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    ^^Huhuh huhuh you missed dat he torks like Hitler.

    Huhuh Huhuh

    And shouldn't it be 'Rees Mogg DESTROYS Verhofstadt' in YT speak?

    My bad, usual response is on spellink or piss, I overlooked the myriad other diversions.

    Do you actually have an opinion on the interview, or anything else?

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    Will it be easier or more difficult for you Muslims to take over the West after Brexit, Jabir?

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    ^ Jabber...Apologies, but I don't see a coherent argument worth responding to. Your understanding of the EU simply isn't the same as mine.

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    Perhaps you'd like to offer up some actual opinion of your own about the accuracy of JRM's comments on the Maastricht treaty and how it relates to the bank bailouts, jabir?

    I presume you actually don't know, since you just offered up your usual pointless piffle.

    That you have the gall to accuse others of lacking coherence is extraordinary.

    Perhaps you had a liquid lunch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    This was proposed on LBC by a Cambridge law prof last week, claiming that his one-page summary to Downing Street could have avoided 2 years of farce.

    Afaik he hasn't yet committed suicide in a field or met with an accident.
    Article 24 is very vague as well as contentious. It also needs agreement on both sides as well as continued negotiation for an FTA. It would allow for an extension to the FTA time of 2years but not sure it would work with a withdrawal without any agreement. The 10 years is also contentious and I'm pretty sure it would be challenged by other WTO members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    It is quite clear that Cher wont go live on the moon because it is impossible right now.
    It is unlikely that McAfee will cut of his dick and eat it even if he is a weirdo.
    Easy to dismiss them both as just being big mouthed.

    Farage on the other hand has chosen something which is not unrealistic and I find his choice quite telling..
    it's suspect, but I think he meant it in both ways, one to please his followers, and the other to please himself in case the failure become real

    either way, he is your typical English scumbag, will be nice to see him go

    unless he runs for EU election in Germany
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    Fact is he's been sucking on the EU tit for quite some time now, and no sensible person would doubt that he's completely serious about the prospect of living overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    My bad, usual response is on spellink or piss, I overlooked the myriad other diversions.

    Do you actually have an opinion on the interview, or anything else?
    If you haven't noticed by now the only thing simple Sybil has an opinion on is other posters, when it comes to the actual subject matter he always avoids that due to having spent a life hidden away in a classroom and never having had to think for himself. And now his life consists of trolling forums sniping at posters for spelling or grammar errors. A dull tedious bore who life obviously hasn't been kind to and he just comes across as a sad bitter jealous individual.

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