Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by foobar

Are you saying you didn't make a post stating the EU would descend into chaos in the event of a no deal Brexit?

Please deny it, so I quote your post again, further humiliating both you and Jabir in a 2 for 1 double whammy.

The only person you are humiliating s yourself.
You implied that my statement meant that Brexit would finish the E.U.
Not quite right there Aristotle.
The E.U. will be in chaos, because the last thing they expect, is for May to lose the vote and for that to be followed by a hard Brexit that they haven’t planned for, you dumb fukwit.

The eu will collapse when they are overwhelmed by their past mistakes and the folly of their federal aspirations. The U.K. leaving by a no deal Brexit will just be the first of many foundations to crumble. Much worse is to come for them.

Its really very simple. The E.U. are as cocky and confident as you and Cyrille are, at least until you, and the E.U. are caught with their pants on fire.

This is the last time I will explain the obvious to you. Feel free to carry on wibbling about things too complex for you to grasp, just don’t expect anyone to calm your anger with explanations.
Goodbye moron.

Originally Posted by Switch

You implied that my statement meant that Brexit would finish the E.U.
Not quite right there Aristotle.

You might need to up the dose on your anti-psychotic meds, if you're seeing implications in 5 fullstops.

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& maybe an asylum seeker can teach Jabir some basic English reading comprehension as a way of saying thank you to the UK.

Originally Posted by OhOh

The EU is already a corrupt organisation. Italy is forced to follow EU guidelines, France gets the EU nod. After receiving the EU blessing after ignoring the EU budget rules.

Oops, France did it again! EU allows Paris near-traditional budget breach for 2019

https://www.rt.com/business/447520-f...cit-exception/

The only surprise is, they have not done the same with Italy. They really need the top end of their little club to unite against the British. Doh!

Nice attempt at diversion but not really pertinent to Brexit, except that the EU can help out if the need arises and you're not trying to take the piss.

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the EU working regulations and how they can affect the UK. Personally, I hate the way German companies play the rules to their advantage; rules meant to help the employee turned against them. These are really country interpretation of EU rules though. The UK is quite good at turning the rules against their intention, to the advantage of government, and then blaming the EU.

The accusations of corruption and fraud are the nature of the beast. The bigger the EU becomes, the bigger the budget and the bigger the accusations. They do try hard to publish everything, but it's not easy when people can accuse without fear of reprisal.

The importance of stability and calm, together with getting one's alternative plans in order is so important when trying to communicate criticism. This is where the UK has let itself down and why Europe, in general, is not listening.

Get your priorities in order switch...

^5353

Macron is Frau's bitch, which is why he enjoys favoured status from the EU. For those that reckon she doesn't call the shots, take your time, work on it.

He can't believe his luck, from virtual nobody to President, now has airs to take a more active role and ideally replace her in leading the EU when she's gone, doesn't realise a) he's fourth grade material, b) France is in trouble under his leadership, c) Germany will rule over the decline not a French upstart, and d) academic since he's unlikely to see out his full term.

Originally Posted by Switch

The only surprise is, they have not done the same with Italy.

Italy has plenty of these:

Both France and Italy have a whole load more golld reserves than the UK.

Originally Posted by Troy

except that the EU can help out if the need arises and you're not trying to take the piss.

A very pertinent example of subjective authorisation and denial, approved and commanded by xxx, based on "highly likely" to have been adjusted to fit data and "possible" assumptions.

Both of which may be happening in the cases of Brexit and French financing obstacles.

Originally Posted by Troy

Both France and Italy have a whole load more golld reserves than the UK.

So have India and Turkey, Taiwan and Saudi; point is?

Originally Posted by Troy

Nice attempt at diversion but not really pertinent to Brexit, except that the EU can help out if the need arises and you're not trying to take the piss.

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the EU working regulations and how they can affect the UK. Personally, I hate the way German companies play the rules to their advantage; rules meant to help the employee turned against them. These are really country interpretation of EU rules though. The UK is quite good at turning the rules against their intention, to the advantage of government, and then blaming the EU.

The accusations of corruption and fraud are the nature of the beast. The bigger the EU becomes, the bigger the budget and the bigger the accusations. They do try hard to publish everything, but it's not easy when people can accuse without fear of reprisal.

The importance of stability and calm, together with getting one's alternative plans in order is so important when trying to communicate criticism. This is where the UK has let itself down and why Europe, in general, is not listening.

Get your priorities in order switch...

My priorities are fine thanks. I wonder just how much time the E.U. spent on no deal preparations?

As I have said, I believe the UK is bluffing and any prep is really only surface deep and consists of smoke and mirrors. May is being cavalier because she has all her eggs in one basket. When she fails, she can walk away no matter how bad her prep was.

The E.U. might be cocky and overconfident, but I bet Mutti has a plan to spare German industry, even if the E.U. don’t give a toss.

^ Oh I'm sure they have a plan. They hinted at some concessions in their July paper on no-deal preparations. The problem is these plans are to help the EU, not the UK and any concessions will finish when the EU feel like it.

May can delay all she likes, Parliament have already worked out her petty strategy and refuse to bow to it. Might as well have the vote now and find a better solution while there's still time.

Even better delay the vote as long as possible and hope Mps don't buckle and we leave with a clean Brexit. Stupid Mps now realise Doris has them over a barrel in terms of getting them to vote for her clusterfuk of a deal.

The government would be subject to a no-confidence vote long before the end of March if no agreement is made. Didn't the Brexieers promise an agreement? One the EU would beg for because they needed the UK more...55555555555

What's this crap the Sun is trying to rustle up EU hate with about VAT and small businesses. Load of bollox...my company was paying VAT back in the early 90s with bugger all extra admin. I ended up way better off once I had a VAT number.

Too many trying to make a meal out of nothing and too many believing the bollox.

Unless it has escaped your attention the Brexiteers aren't running the government or negotiations, if we had had a Brexiteer PM we wouldn't be in the clusterfuk now. A remain PM coupled with a remain civil service who have done all they can to keep us as tied to the EU as they possibly can, no one who voted for Brexit voted for or supports Doris deal. It's needs throwing out but will be accepted at the last minute.

And just because Labour calls a no confidence vote doesn't mean they will win it in the event of a no deal as the DUP are quite happy with no deal and the will enough Tories vote against their own PM knowing they will get wiped out in a GE.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ Oh I'm sure they have a plan. They hinted at some concessions in their July paper on no-deal preparations. The problem is these plans are to help the EU, not the UK and any concessions will finish when the EU feel like it.

May can delay all she likes, Parliament have already worked out her petty strategy and refuse to bow to it. Might as well have the vote now and find a better solution while there's still time.

These concessions to help the E.U. presumably include which trade they would like to cherry pick with U.K? And the reciprocal rights for citizens of both states?

Yeah...think of it as payback for sinking the French fleet and the Nuremberg trials.

^^^ Settle ... None of them jumped when asked, in fact they all hid out the way when a Brexiteer was needed to take the fall

Back to Brexit and this notion that the EU is some dastardly, corrupt, monster that the UK has to run away from...I hear reports of the UK failing to reply to open questions about brexit related matters. They seem to be refusing to report costs of management experts, brexit department overheads, pretty much anything brexit related really...

So much for taking back control and open and transparent government...better off finding that in the EU...

Originally Posted by Troy

^^^ Settle ... None of them jumped when asked, in fact they all hid out the way when a Brexiteer was needed to take the fall

Errrm if that 2 faced cvnt Gove hadn't stabbed Boris in the back then he'd be PM as opposed to Doris. People (Tory mps) fell for Doris BS that Brexit means Brexit. Only reason she survived the confidence vote is most Tory Mps are remainers and they will pay a heavy price for that at the next election.

Originally Posted by Troy

Back to Brexit and this notion that the EU is some dastardly, corrupt, monster that the UK has to run away from...I hear reports of the UK failing to reply to open questions about brexit related matters. They seem to be refusing to report costs of management experts, brexit department overheads, pretty much anything brexit related really...

So much for taking back control and open and transparent government...better off finding that in the EU...

Remind me how many times in the last 20 years have the EU had their accounts signed off? And didn't MEPs just recently vote to keep their expenses private. Best we ignore all this openness and transparency from the EU though hey, not like it's our money or anything.

Only 3 months to go. Yippee!!

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Errrm if that 2 faced cvnt Gove hadn't stabbed Boris in the back then he'd be PM as opposed to Doris. People (Tory mps) fell for Doris BS that Brexit means Brexit. Only reason she survived the confidence vote is most Tory Mps are remainers and they will pay a heavy price for that at the next election.

So most Tory MPs are remainers are they? Sort of shoots down your argument of 80% voting for Brexit doesn't it...

It smacks of trying to get a minority viewpoint through parliament by using a referendum and getting all upset when the hood is lifted off people's eyes.

^5370^

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Errrm if that 2 faced cvnt Gove hadn't stabbed Boris in the back then he'd be PM as opposed to Doris. People (Tory mps) fell for Doris BS that Brexit means Brexit. Only reason she survived the confidence vote is most Tory Mps are remainers and they will pay a heavy price for that at the next election.

For sure Gove spitefully knobbled BoJo giving May a clean run at the last election, which BoJo would probably have won, and common sense 101 says a Brexiteer should have been supervising Brexit. Brexit is not the problem, from the start it was political egos that triggered the mess, and a chain reaction of mismanagement and conflicts of interest that has led to the current situation.

Two other reasons she survived the confidence vote: Nobody really wants the job right now, since with it goes pwnership of the Brexit fiasco; while everyone knows May is responsible for the wreck, it still becomes part of and pollutes the new pwner's legacy. And Corbynphobia; however unelectable, it's foolish to risk a GE and flirt with the doomsday scenario of him in Downing Street.

Originally Posted by Troy

So most Tory MPs are remainers are they? Sort of shoots down your argument of 80% voting for Brexit doesn't it...

It smacks of trying to get a minority viewpoint through parliament by using a referendum and getting all upset when the hood is lifted off people's eyes.

WTF are you talking about now probably 450++++++ out of 650 mps are remainers. They handed the decision over to the plebs via a referendum vowing to implement the decision and because people didn't vote the way they were supposed to there has been a never ending quest to stop Brexit.