Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Switch

Massive whooshing sound again, as buttfly oh so predictably drowns in his own vitriol.

What a funny little brain you have.

I take it your first diaper is already full

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

I take it your first diaper is already full

save it for Junker and Tusk mate. If May had t been bought and paid for, they would need a fookin colostomy bag. Hahaha

The irony is that Brexit has already cost more than the EU budget payments...so much for saving £350m/week.

Only the May deal on the table and no-one likes it. No Plan B let alone a Plan C and the clock is ticking away. There's only a few loons in Parliament that want to see Brexit happen but everyone is too scared to say so and risk losing half the electorate. There's gonna be a few more twists to Brexit yet...

British Prime Minister Theresa May has survived, but her drive for Brexit may not. That would be bad for Britain. Whatever challenges Brexit poses for the United Kingdom, they pale in comparison to those that will confront it if it remains in the European Union given the continent’s own problems.


The E.U. is in crisis. The East is becoming more populist by the day. Italy’s government has adopted a budget in contravention of E.U. guidelines, setting in motion a game of chicken that will test whether national governments within the E.U. are truly sovereign. And the E.U.’s pillars, France and Germany, are riven by political instability that will almost surely increase.

The recent protests against French President Emmanuel Macron show how tenuous the E.U.’s political stability is. His imperious manner and pro-Parisian policies have pushed the ordinary French voter close to the edge. Macron’s favorability ratings are now below 25 percent, making President Trump look like a national savior by comparison.

Macron’s massive victory in last year’s presidential election was quite deceiving. In the all-important first round, he and other backers of the status quo received only 50.4 percent of the votes; populists from the left and the right got the rest. Should the populists be able to unite, perhaps under the banner of the protesters, only a small shift in French sentiment would make France the latest, and the largest, nation to embrace populism. That would surely increase French budget deficits, raising the specter of a British-financed future bailout and decrease French support for the neo-liberal market economy that Remainers champion.

These changes would matter less to Britain if the E.U. were a genuinely democratic institution. In such a place, Britain’s relative stability and growth would accord it more influence. But the E.U. is not a functioning democracy. It was founded in 1957 primarily as a way to tie Germany and France together and prevent recurrence of the conflicts that had torn the continent apart. Sixty years later, it remains a Franco-German entente against which the majority of nations, and members of the E.U. Parliament, are powerless.

Imagine what the next decade could look like should Britain remain in the E.U. Britain’s relative economic strength has already attracted more than 2 million E.U. nationals to work within its borders. Should continental economies stagnate further, that tide would likely swell, further increasing the backlash that led to the Leave victory in the first place. Should Italy default on its debts, an increasing likelihood, Britain will likely be asked to shoulder some of the bailout’s cost. More immigration and higher taxes to fund more bailouts will not go over well with British voters.

Optimists who think that staying in would permit Britain to influence the E.U.’s policies ignore the repeated examples to the contrary.

The E.U.’s rejection of the British prime minister’s plea for slight adjustments to her exit deal is merely the latest in a series of acts that show the E.U. holds Britain in contempt. The sad fact is that the E.U. looks at Britain as a cash cow whose economy sends money directly and indirectly to the other member states. It will not hesitate to milk the cow until it drops.

Britain’s future outside the E.U. would be bright even after a necessary, and perhaps painful, adjustment. Modern Britain is the child of 30 years of reform begun by Margaret Thatcher and completed by Tony Blair. Their efforts reinvigorated British entrepreneurship and optimism. Financial deregulation coupled with pro-market reforms created the London powerhouse that attracts workers from all over the globe. They aren’t coming because they crave access to the E.U.; they come because they crave access to Britain’s real asset — its people.

It’s easy to see the difference between the United Kingdom and the E.U. when you visit London and Paris, as I just recently did. Paris is beautiful but forlorn. The stores are old, the buildings are old, and spirits are downcast. London, by contrast, sparkles with the new. New buildings, new stores and the energy positively crackles from the streets. Ask any leader in Britain’s business world and they will tell you they worry about the post-Brexit future. But look in the eyes of anyone, leaders included, and you see that they will rise to that challenge with resolution rather than resignation.

Remainers think Britain’s prosperity depends on its location. Leavers think its prosperity, long-term, depends upon its character. Freed from the shackles of the E.U.’s rules and Franco-German domination, Leavers contend, British character will remain indispensable to a tired continent and create new opportunities across the globe. Seeing the French and the British up close, it’s hard to disagree.

Fear of the future is understandable. “Human nature resists change,” Ronald Reagan once wrote, “and [it] goes over backward to resist radical change.” Brexit is radical change, but Britain should nevertheless embrace it. Europe will soon become the iron weights around Britain’s ankles. It should escape now and embrace what might become its finest hour.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.fb0124e9c6ab

Real surprised at the WashPo being short of full stay.

But on a more serious note, expect dragon to ask if you went to school and change your own nappies.

Originally Posted by jabir

Real surprised at the WashPo being short of full stay.

Ummm...what?

^ WashPo = Washington Post?

Full stay = full story?

Originally Posted by Troy

The irony is that Brexit has already cost more than the EU budget payments.

Hold on, Troy. We haven't had Brexit yet. We are still in the EU.

So the Washington Post correspondent is basing his optimism on...err...thriving top end shops in London when sterling is on the floor.

What a surprise!

And ignoring the fact that all this supposed glittery optimism is while the UK remains in the EU.

What a feckin' moron.

Originally Posted by cyrille

So the Washington Post correspondent is basing his optimism on...err...thriving top end shops in London when sterling is on the floor.

What a surprise!

And ignoring the fact that all this supposed glittery optimism is while the UK remains in the EU.

What a feckin' moron.

Another idiot on exchange rates. The real value of money and the real economic indicators have not changed much in the last two years. Speculators worried about an uncertain future devalue a currency on whims, Nothing more.
Most of it done to take profit when speculation drives rates higher.
You really are a total fuvking simpleton on this issue. You deserve to be renationalised by Corbyn for being so fucking dim.

Originally Posted by Switch

Another idiot on exchange rates. The real value of money and the real economic indicators have not changed much in the last two years. Speculators worried about an uncertain future devalue a currency on whims, Nothing more.
Most of it done to take profit when speculation drives rates higher.
You really are a total fuvking simpleton on this issue. You deserve to be renationalised by Corbyn for being so fucking dim.

You're getting as desperate for an argument as jabir. Nothing in your post actually runs contrary to my comments, you absurd twat.

Now fuck off and suck another consolation cock to help you get over defeat last night.

Originally Posted by jabir

Real surprised at the WashPo being short of full stay.

Why are you speaking like a retarded teenager on Line?

Originally Posted by Neverna

Hold on, Troy. We haven't had Brexit yet. We are still in the EU.

Yet, it's undeniable the arse has fallen out of the pound as a result of Brexit.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Why are you speaking like a retarded teenager on Line?

It's the normal level of communication for Brexiteers.

Originally Posted by foobar

Yet, it's undeniable the arse has fallen out of the pound as a result of Brexit.

and another moron joins the debate.

Originally Posted by cyrille

You're getting as desperate for an argument as jabir. Nothing in your post actually runs contrary to my comments, you absurd twat.

Now fuck off and suck another consolation cock to help you get over defeat last night.

“Sterling is on the floor” your words not mine.

Nothing to get over about last night, I had a great time thanks. There ya go Cy. Another absurdity you can never grasp.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Well that ain't gonna bust the bank is it? And how much are EU peoples going to pay to visit non EU countries? Or aren't they?

Oh dear, you seem to have misunderstood the full implication of the pre-clearance process. Coons, Septics, nignogs, Antipodeans and now the British are limited to visits of no more than 90 days within any 6 month period. Those visits will be recorded, and, as referenced by Butters, will also be vetted for criminality. Therefore, all those Brits who have second homes in Spain, France and Portugal or who like to spend the long winter months in some cheap pension/hotel are now fucked. Before, as indeed hundreds of thousands have done for years, folk could just spend as much time there as they wanted because of free movement but now they is fucked in the ass.

Therefore, all those Brits who have second homes in Spain, France and Portugal or who like to spend the long winter months in some cheap pension/hotel are now fucked.

no they're not. they'll wash up on your fucking doorstep in pattaya.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Oh dear, you seem to have misunderstood the full implication of the pre-clearance process. Coons, Septics, nignogs, Antipodeans and now the British are limited to visits of no more than 90 days within any 6 month period. Those visits will be recorded, and, as referenced by Butters, will also be vetted for criminality. Therefore, all those Brits who have second homes in Spain, France and Portugal or who like to spend the long winter months in some cheap pension/hotel are now fucked. Before, as indeed hundreds of thousands have done for years, folk could just spend as much time there as they wanted because of free movement but now they is fucked in the ass.

Budleigh Salterton here we fucking come!!

Brexit latest: I'm confused... what just happened?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46551986

Politics is all about numbers and dates.

This week, 650 members of the UK parliament were supposed to vote on the deal Theresa May struck with EU members on how exactly the UK should leave the EU.

Instead, 317 Conservatives had a vote of no confidence in her leadership. She won, but by only 200 votes to 117, leaving her weakened and her party more divided than ever.

What's next?

The government must hold a vote on Mrs May's deal by 21 January or come up with another plan. But with little chance of her winning such a vote and no sign of a Plan B, this looks like a profound political crisis.

Sums you up pretty much guys, and how everything will just be fine with hard Brexit

Originally Posted by Switch

and another moron joins the debate.

I'm very sorry if factual information has ruined your day.

Originally Posted by taxexile

no they're not. they'll wash up on your fucking doorstep in pattaya.

Naah, we don't see many Brits much under pension age. Those that do visit here are mainly chums of residents married to Thai or relatives. Mind you, the numbers of coach driven chinks are much less now which is a damn good development if somewhat mystifying. Frankly, I never understood why they came here in the first place, the only things they like to do is to ether drown or eat stinky seafood at stupidly high prices. Perhaps they just got bored.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Oh dear, you seem to have misunderstood the full implication of the pre-clearance process. Coons, Septics, nignogs, Antipodeans and now the British are limited to visits of no more than 90 days within any 6 month period. Those visits will be recorded, and, as referenced by Butters, will also be vetted for criminality. Therefore, all those Brits who have second homes in Spain, France and Portugal or who like to spend the long winter months in some cheap pension/hotel are now fucked. Before, as indeed hundreds of thousands have done for years, folk could just spend as much time there as they wanted because of free movement but now they is fucked in the ass.

Stop exaggerating you silly old duffer.
The Spanish and French do not want to lose the income generated by Brits who have settled there. No way will they tolerate being told what to do by drunks at the head of the EU. Property values would drop massively if Brits were repatriated by such stupidity.
They won’t do it because most EU countries have more citizens in UK than you can count. Reciprocity. If the loons start playing that game, it willbite them in the arse.
You pretend to be smart, but you actually know nothing and understand even less, you bitter twisted old knob.

Originally Posted by foobar

I'm very sorry if factual information has ruined your day.

A clown dresses up stupid as facts. Well done clown. My day is just great thank you.