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    Christ, spastic mofo Bumbumboy discovers an economic entity protects its own interests. Hold the fucking phone! Wow whoulda thunk it, the indigenous tomato growing industry of over 27 countries protects itself from dumping by Turkey, North Africa and the planet Zog.
    Fucking cretin - the EU permits hundreds of tons of fresh tropical fruit and vegetables to be imported from other emerging and third world markets unburdened by tariff or price fixed protocols.

    Bumbum is just a wanker arguing like a child in an empty room - fuck him, he's just a bore.

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    Fuck me, what is it with you idiots not being able to accept you are wrong, everything I have said on the issue is 100% factually correct, even when you keep trying to move the goal posts it doesn't change the fact I'm still right as always. I know it's a difficult concept to grasp for a career civil servant and a bloke who has never left the classroom who have zero business experience or knowledge but just because the EU signs a what it calls a free trade deal in most cases it is neither free or fair for the developing country.

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    The government has not noticed any of the critique on here from either side. I seriously wonder why anyone bothers to read or post.
    Troy might encounter a few side effects because he’s actually there in the EU.
    The gent is bleating vociferously because he likes to do that. Otherwise his life is pointless.

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    Troy won't have any problems being already in the EU, he will continue to have the same rights he does now. If he was genuinely concerned due to how long he has been in Germany I'm sure he'd be able to apply for German citizenship/ passport if he so desired. All the other remoaners on here don't even live in the UK or even the EU nor have any desire to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    just because the EU signs a what it calls a free trade deal in most cases it is neither free or fair for the developing country.
    Whereas Britain has a well established record for doing right by the colonies of course.

    Rees-Mogg in particular has beneficent intentions for Africa written all over his caring face.

    And now here we go on another red herring of burimoron's yet again...how a website created for expats in Thailand amazingly doesn't have many contributors from Europe, and this somehow strengthens his case...

    Christ, what a colossal twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Whereas Britain has a well established record for doing right by the colonies of course.

    Rees-Mogg in particular has beneficent intentions for Africa written all over his caring face.
    In terms of scrapping tariffs, like most outward looking Brexiteers yes, developing countries will benefit by being able to sell their shit at market price thus massively increasing their trade with the UK and the UK will benefit from cheaper food. It really is a simple concept but for some reason still continues to be too difficult for you to grasp.

    Who would you like to see as PM simple Sybil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Fuck me, what is it with you idiots not being able to accept you are wrong, everything I have said on the issue is 100% factually correct, even when you keep trying to move the goal posts it doesn't change the fact I'm still right as always. I know it's a difficult concept to grasp for a career civil servant and a bloke who has never left the classroom who have zero business experience or knowledge but just because the EU signs a what it calls a free trade deal in most cases it is neither free or fair for the developing country.
    So the FTA agreed between Korea and the EU, abandoning over 99% of tariffs, didn't increase British trade with that country by trebling exports then?

    You gormless gumboot.

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    Who the fuck is talking about Korea, again shifting the goal posts. Of course deals will increase trade you numbskull but the deals the EU strikes with developing countries are one sided due to the constraints put on the agricultural produce which in many cases is their main export.

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    people, let's not fight over this

    the UK will get flushed down the toilet, let's rejoice over this, not fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Who the fuck is talking about Korea, again shifting the goal posts.
    You are confusing shifting goal posts with more examples of Brexit own goals.

    ...and I have already encountered problems due to Brexit and there are several legal and political reasons why I cannot gain German citizenship. However, that story will have to remain untold, at least for the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Who the fuck is talking about Korea, again shifting the goal posts. Of course deals will increase trade you numbskull but the deals the EU strikes with developing countries are one sided due to the constraints put on the agricultural produce which in many cases is their main export.
    Look, you moron, your new Brexiteer economic policy is not one of altruism and charity, it'a all about carpetbagging venturers exploiting third world markets for greater profits in the UK to be amassed under a tax regime that rewards the corporate freebooter at the expense of the ordinary consumer who is going to get shafted, you fucking schmuck.

    As a matter of policy the EU engages the emerging and third world markets by offering tariff free trade for non-EU indigenous fresh produce that meets the hygiene and food safety laws protecting our consumers so that they don't get fucking poisoned, you paralysed streak of dissolving amoeba.

    You are so fucking ignorant you make a tree look fucking intellectual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    it'a all about carpetbagging venturers exploiting third world markets for greater profits in the UK to be amassed under a tax regime that rewards the corporate freebooter at the expense of the ordinary consumer who is going to get shafted

    everyone needs an aspiration, a goal to work toward... this time next year eh Brexit Bot... this time next year

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    I wonder if the US Whiskey market will scare buriramboy...

    Secret Brexit deal could threaten scotch whisky

    Spirit is under threat from US imports in classified talks to remove barriers to trade.

    A post-Brexit trade deal with the US could mean whiskey galore for the UK.


    But while drinkers might be celebrating, this could be bad news for scotch whisky distillers who are being warned that their industry faces a glut of imports from US producers if trade barriers come down once the UK leaves the EU.


    US trade groups want any trade deal signed between the two countries to drop current EU requirements relating to the ageing of whisky, something that would allow US manufacturers to promote their rival, younger products as whiskey (the spirit made by non-Scottish producers is spelled differently).


    Discussions between the two countries over what can and cannot be included in a potential trade deal are being conducted in secrecy, according to transparency campaigners.

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    The US also wants protected designation of origin, which safeguards products such as Cornish pasties or Melton Mowbray pork pies, dispensed with because they “undermine access” for US producers.

    ...

    A spokeswoman for the Scotch Whisky Association said it would campaign for EU food standards to be applied to any trade deal with the US.


    “According to EU legislation, whisky produced or sold in the EU is required to be matured for at least 3 years, and meet other well-established criteria,” the spokeswoman said. “We are opposed to the sale of any whisky in the UK that does not comply with the legal requirements for whisky under EU law.”


    Dearden said that opinion polls suggested that the majority of people do not want a trade deal that lowers standards and called for discussions to be made more transparent. “We’re going to have to fight for a more democratic trade policy if we want to stop Liam Fox’s attempts to Americanise the UK economy.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...eat-us-imports

    I wonder if buriramboy will request EU standards be applied post-brexit <chuckle>

    Why's he gone to jail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Secret Brexit deal could threaten scotch whisky
    The word is 'could'. Scare tactics again from the Remoaners.

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    ^ Brexit could succeed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    We are opposed to the sale of any whisky in the UK that does not comply with the legal requirements for whisky under EU law.”
    One assumes many EU Directives will be continued, if not how far back is the UK going to go for it's new legal laws, 1066? The EU directives have brought many benefits to the UK citizens.

    Has Sir Humphreys been working on this quandary for the past two years or just pressing his Royal Wedding gown in anticipation of an invite?
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    Sir Humphrey basically doesn't know where the fuck to start.

    The whole system is jammed by the uncertainties of this madness, and May has no more of a clue what to do than anyone else.

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    Britain is preparing to unravel the weft and weave of its society developed over 45 years and is doing so out of blind ignorance and without its people understanding the consequences. The chimera of optimism, as propounded by the idiots Fox, Johnson, Davis and Mogg, maintains the initial chaos, confusion and loss will soon give way to a new birth in which a reformed Blighty will spring forth to champion a new mercantilism that shall embrace the world and yield untold riches for its stout yeomanry, not to mention a few squires too. The midwives to this miraculous new beginning are of course the ragbag bunch of tenth rate politicians and bargain-basement demagogues that have seeped out of the right wing, loony fringe of the Tory party and its now aborted bastard son, UKIP.

    The sheer stupidity of this madness is so profound one can't help but think the English Brexit spastics are all quite, quite insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    the English Brexit spastics are all quite, quite insane.
    That group has been in power for a long time.

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    More attempts to cherry-pick...

    PM will pay to have 'full association' with EU research


    The Prime Minister made the strongest commitment yet to "fully associate" the UK with the EU's £24bn research programme post-Brexit.

    Theresa May said the UK would be willing to make "an appropriate contribution" and in return it would expect a "suitable level of influence".

    She also said that Britain would participate in R&D with the EU's nuclear body Euratom.

    The announcements have been welcomed by UK scientists.

    British research is one of the greatest financial beneficiaries of membership of the EU. Between 2007 and 2013, the UK received £8bn from the EU for research - £3bn more than it put into the research budget.

    As well as the money, membership of the so-called Framework programme enabled British scientists to participate in European research projects. But what is most important to UK researchers is the right to influence the areas of research that are funded.

    Non-EU members are eligible to receive EU research funding but have no say in the development of research projects. There have therefore been concerns that Brexit would damage UK research.

    Mrs May said in her speech that she would discuss proposals with EU negotiators to enable UK scientists to continue to influence the direction of EU research in return for additional payments.

    "The United Kingdom would like the option to fully associate ourselves with the excellence-based European science and innovation programmes," she said.

    "Of course, such an association would involve an appropriate UK financial contribution, which we would willingly make. In return for that contribution, we would look to maintain a suitable level of influence in line with our financial contribution and the benefits we bring."

    The key word in that statement is "appropriate". It's thought that what the PM is saying is that under her proposed new terms, the UK would not expect to get more money out than it puts in, as is the case now.

    The UK research community has pressed the government for just such an arrangement. The President of the Royal Society, Venki Ramakrishnan, gave Mrs May's comments a cautious welcome.

    "There will still be much to negotiate, but the UK should be involved in all aspects of the programme. The sooner our involvement can be confirmed, the sooner scientists across Europe can put politics to one side and get on with shaping the science that will improve lives," he said.

    "The research community remains anxious about the potential damage Brexit could do to UK and International science until a deal is struck, but today's speech clearly shows that the UK government understands what is at stake."


    Mrs May has also said that the UK would continue to participate in the R&D of the EU's nuclear body, Euratom. Last year, continued involvement had been ruled out because although Euratom is not part of the EU, membership requires being subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice - which the government has said it will not accept.

    It is unclear how the government will resolve this apparent contradiction, but it is notable that Mrs May singled out the R&D component of Euratom for participation, indicating that some form of partial membership might be possible.

    Mrs May also indicated that she was aware of concerns that restrictions on EU immigration would damage UK research.

    "Our immigration system supports [international collaboration], with no cap on the number of the students who can come to our universities, and thousands coming every year, learning from some of the finest academics and contributing to the success of some of the best universities in the world," she said.

    "The UK will always be open to the brightest and the best researchers to come and make their valued contribution.

    "When we leave the European Union, I will ensure that does not change."


    But BBC News learned last week that record numbers of skilled engineers and IT specialists from outside were being denied visas to take up job offers from UK employers.


    The senior deputy general-secretary of the trade union Prospect, Sue Ferns, said that she would like to see how Mrs May would enable the easy movement of skilled engineers and scientists.

    "How (does the government) intend to turn the Prime Minister's warm words on the contribution of EU scientists to the UK into concrete reassurances for the short term and eventually into a migration system that continues to allow the free exchange of people and knowledge across the continent?

    "And on Euratom, if the government can accept that an association for R&D is advantageous to the UK, why do they continue to insist that such an association is legally impossible in other areas, for example nuclear safeguards?"

    PM will pay to have 'full association' with EU research - BBC News

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    Freedom of movement for some but not others? Currently EU talent is leaving the UK in droves and the UK government is failing miserably trying to keep them. Worse, very little home-grown talent, currently in the EU, have any intention of returning. Lord knows how many have changed their citizenship to one less embarrassing than UK.

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    Thousands of skilled foreign workers with job offers in the UK were denied entry due to Theresa May’s “arbitrary” visa scheme, it has been revealed.

    More than 6,000 visa applications from professionals including scientists, IT specialists and doctors were refused over a period of just four months between December and March.

    The refusals were the result of an annual limit of 20,700 so-called Tier 2 visas introduced in 2011 while Ms May was home secretary.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8354266.html
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    The thing folk fail to understand about May is that despite the propaganda that she is "tough, single-minded and strong", the reality that she is merely sclerotic, dull-brained, pedestrian and obsessional about preserving the sterile society of her white, bone-achingly middle class, Home Counties, High Anglican Church, nigger-free upbringing as the template for her idea of post Brexit 1950s Britain, is much nearer the truth.
    Add a dollop of social gaucherie, mild autism, no sense of humour and all the creativity of a desiccated dog turd, and you have Theresa May.

    That she has been appointed as PM is in truth as laughable as Corbyn leading the Labour Party. They are in reality both sides of the same bent coin and Britain is heading down a blind alley every bit as morally and economically bankrupt as her unlawful and bestial purge on the black Jamaicans whose British citizenship has been wrongly denied.

    Really, she is a cvunt and one hopes she dies sooner than later.

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    Theresa May defends customs Brexit 'backstop' - BBC News

    A "backstop" plan to keep the UK aligned with the EU's customs union after 2020 would only apply "in a very limited set of circumstances", Theresa May has said.


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    Tony Blair: Labour in 'worst of both worlds' on Brexit - BBC News

    Labour is in the "worst of both worlds" on Brexit and will suffer at the ballot box, according to Tony Blair.

    The former Labour prime minister said the party's position was not appealing to either Leave or Remain voters.

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    PM will pay to have 'full association' with EU research - BBC News

    The Prime Minister made the strongest commitment yet to "fully associate" the UK with the EU's £68bn research programme post-Brexit.

    Theresa May said the UK would be willing to make "an appropriate contribution" and in return it would expect a "suitable level of influence".

    She also said that Britain would participate in R&D with the EU's nuclear body Euratom.

    The announcements have been welcomed by UK scientists.

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