Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Neo

Which has what exactly to do with economic analysis predicting reduced GDP after Brexit?

Economists agree that there will likely be a downturn in growth, the multinational and financial sectors agree, leading universities and research centers, even the governments own leaked analysis shows the same.

How is that 'project fear' ?

That's what I mean by derision as debate, pseudo politics.. you don't like the facts so hang a label on it, even if its irrelevant, kill the debate.

Show us the forecasts for a growth in GDP after Brexit.

Having met you and enjoyed many a beer with you I know you are not the dumb twat this post perceives you as. You do understand what a recession is as in GDP drops, this was predicted to happen in 2017 by all your esteemed economists who also missed the financial crash. But now you want to take there 15 year forecasts at face value. Seriously mate wake up.

Originally Posted by Troy

^ The UK appear to be negotiating Brexit in a similar manner to the way I am negotiating my next contract. Make me an offer better than the one I have, or I leave.

The difference is that if I don't like the offer I can leave and it won't affect anyone but me and my immediate family, I already have other offers, and I can retire happily if I so wish anyway.

No-one negotiates without an alternate plan that the other side is fully aware of.

The UK have poor negotiators no one is disputing that for the simple reason we have people negotiating who are on the side of the opposition, I thought this was clear to all...

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

because you stupid people are asking for a special deal with the same advantages as before, and not clearly stating what you really want, in true fuzzy British ambiguous style

We just want to fuk your agricultural industry but sadly I like your wine so can't participate.

also Barnier knows what kind of deviant fuckers you British people are and he is NOT being intimidated by your gay brits maneuvers

Originally Posted by buriramboy

We just want to fuk your agricultural industry but sadly I like your wine so can't participate.

it's ok, the chinese are already buying our wine

we don't need you people, just fuck off

no more cheese and wine

I do love your old cheddar, one of the best cheese you can get in Thailand for cheap (if 240 THB is cheap)

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

it's ok, the chinese are already buying our wine

we don't need you people, just fuck off

Just like they buy our scotch, but it's your garlic farmers you need to worry about, any idea on the tariffs from garlic outside the EU being brought in, 120% I believe you been robbing us for years. Cheap African grown garlic when we leave the EU, helping to decrease poverty in Africa and putting French farmers out of work, a truly global outward looking Britain. Its all about garlic.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

a truly global outward looking Britain.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

a truly global outward looking Britain

Huzza!!!

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

no more cheese and wine

I do love your old cheddar, one of the best cheese you can get in Thailand for cheap (if 240 THB is cheap)

The Tasty Aussie brand cheddar is offered here at 180 baht which is as good as it gets. Beqa is more for some reason but Coon seems to have disappeared. Emborg, the Danish brand, offers dairy produce here at the same price as Tasty, maybe a few baht less, and is fairly ok and I prefer their butter to Anchor.

English sourced cheese, i.e. Waitrose, from Central is stupidly priced and I have to say I rarely if ever see anyone buying it. Maybe when Brexit happens it will be half price and coated with pixie dust.

Chote: Publish Brexit assessments so the public can judge

UK official: Brexit research should be made public

The British government should publish all research it has done on effects of Brexit for the public to evaluate, said Robert Chote, head of the Office for Budget Responsibility. Some documents were leaked last week, but Chote said the public needs to know the assumptions those assessments were based upon.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...-idUSKBN1FQ2WG

EU seeks power to penalize UK in Brexit transition

The EU wants a post-Brexit transition deal to give it power to restrict UK participation in the single market if Britain violates accepted rules, a leaked document shows. The EU would do so only if the European Commission decided resolving an EU-UK dispute at the Court of Justice of the EU would take too long, according to the document.

Essentially, the 'secret' Brexit analyses, soon to be made public, report that under all assumptions Britain will lose substantial growth with the NE, West Midlands and N.Ireland being hardest hit. In monetary terms, the losses are expected to be around £120 billions annually although perceived gains from Brexit are expected to reduce the loss by £40 billions. However, most pundits are questioning the accuracy of those gains which are based on assumptions that there will be deregulation even though the government has conceded that this will not necessarily be policy.

Putting it into a perspective the ordinary Brexit moron might recognise and understand, the losses will equate to nearly the entire annual NHS budget.

And what will be the gain? Three million Brits currently in Europe may have their rights to movement and work within the 27 countries curtailed, 65 million British citizens will no longer be able to move, settle, work or visit within 27 countries for longer than 90 days without a visa, trade barriers are to be re-erected, the Good Friday Agreement will be no more, British farming and fisheries will now have to rely on doctrinal Tory nazis for their annual £3 billion subsidies and the rightwing fascists will reclaim sovereignty although they have as yet been unable to explain exactly what it is they will gain apart from the exclusion of hundreds of thousands from the workforce currently supporting our fucking agricultural industries, the entire care industry, a significant proportion of the construction sector and 20% of the NHS and ancillary agencies. Oh, I nearly forgot, and a fucking stupid little dark blue/black passport it could have had anyway. We shan't mention of course the withdrawal from over 120 government and quango agencies and directories we helped set up within the EU framework and have been the lifeblood of our country's administration over 45 fucking years.

The worst, stupidest, most fucked up thing the lower end of Britain has been allowed to inflict on itself in modern times.

Only a complete retard or anarchist would want this but as we see daily, the British are not the most sophisticated in the world and really are not fit to vote on anything more important than the outcome of a fucking faux celebrity reality show.

Quite sad to see the blathering old fool you've morphed into who just makes shit up these days.

bb, even you must by now be wondering just how this will all end.

whilst the decision to leave the eu was, considering that we brits are an island people who thrive on adversarial rather than the consensual politics that drive our mainland neighbours, a sensible one.

as the reality of brexit hits brussels, they are showing their true colours ... (cant get their own way, resort to foot stamping, goalpost shuffling, toys out of pram etc. never mind any respect for democracy) and seek to punish the uk to the fullest.

that the brits, with their innate sense of decency, respect for the law and fairness, assumed negotiations would progress towards a mutually beneficial conclusion shows how naive they have been.

i am now of the opinion that the referendum and its result was a mistake, and that the brits should have done what every other eu member does, i.e, ignored eu dictats, cooked the books and done whatever was best for themselves. and if that meant ignoring the eu court of human rights, employment laws, taxation regimes, environmental concerns, etc.etc.etc then so be it. it would be far better to be inside pissing out, than the other way round.

the threats and media driven economic doomsday scenarios will undoubtedly escalate as the clock ticks, but the rubicon has been crossed and britain must not cower in the face of those mealy mouthed, spoilt, corrupt, supercilious, pompous, selfish, gravy train riding frogs and krauts who have manipulated the eu for their own ends from day 1.

the brits need a team proficient in cunning, shrewdness, two facedness, slipperiness guile and stealth.

surely the torys, by their very nature, must have many mp's and sympathetic civil servants proficient in the above qualities, who can direct negotiations with a degree of expertise yet to shown by the current lot.

its not over until its over. there is still hope.

We made the right decision to leave which is vindicated by ever nasty rhetoric coming out of Brussels, no one was under any illusion that there would be some short term pain but we will rebuild and be stronger. Anti EU parties are gaining ground all across Europe and the Eurocrats want to do all they can in terms of punishing the UK to make other countries think twice about leaving but as always with the EU it will backfire in the end, the East Euro countries are already starting to stand up to Brussels. Just a shame we have such a weak willed PM in Doris, she is an embarassment but then again she is a remoaner who seems intent on caving in on every issue, sooner she goes the better.

I consider the rise of the right wing to be a very worrying trend. It seems like the old adage of history repeating itself is true. I still think if you lost your job to a unskilled migrant with limited English skills then you probably sucked royally at your job.

Originally Posted by taxexile

that the brits, with their innate sense of decency,

Originally Posted by taxexile

the brits need a team proficient in cunning, shrewdness, two facedness, slipperiness guile and stealth.

they are already in your government, to lead you in the future, after Brexit of course

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

I consider the rise of the right wing to be a very worrying trend. It seems like the old adage of history repeating itself is true. I still think if you lost your job to a unskilled migrant with limited English skills then you probably sucked royally at your job.

Rise of the right wing? It's the extreme left who populate social media led by momentum.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Quite sad to see the blathering old fool you've morphed into who just makes shit up these days.

Best comeback ever

But really, wouldn't it be better to attack the content rather than the poster.? It seems a well thought out and comprehensive forecast of what may possibly happen post Brexit.. an opposing view from yourself and surely easy to refute point by point with your greater insight and understanding of the post Brexit landscape.

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

I still think if you lost your job to a unskilled migrant with limited English skills then you probably sucked royally at your job.

not necessarily, more like management does not see value in the good quality of your job or skills, and prefer low cost trash to increase profit margin

these days, profit margins are obtain by crushing all kind of costs, and labor is the usually first in line

with globalization, it's no longer possible to increase revenues or prices, there is always a Chinese undercutting you

Competition is no longer in prices, it's in costs, and in particular labor costs

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

taxexile

that the brits, with their innate sense of decency

,

you frenchies never did understand the subtleties, gentlemanliness and decency of cricket, preferring garlic, the guillotine, and bending over for the germans and anyone else for that matter.

Originally Posted by taxexile

you frenchies never did understand the subtleties, gentlemanliness and decency of cricket, preferring garlic, the guillotine, and bending over for the germans and anyone else for that matter.

you are a bunch of loons living on an isolated island, who take themselves way too seriously

nothing subtile about this, even tough you would like to think so

instead delusional and full of hot air comes to mind