Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

So the collapse of the NHS is caused by three million migrants 95% of whom have been in full time employment working and paying income tax, VAT and NI contributions to a degree that the ONS has confirmed that EU migration has yielded a net annual benefit to the Exchequer of £2 billions.

I'm not sure which I despise the most about you creatures,, your nazi doctrine or your stupidity and profound ignorance.

It's hard to know if are genuinely thick as pigshit or it's just an act. If 3 million extra people are accessing the NHS without increased infrastructure of course it's going to create a crisis you gormless pleb.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

When it comes to the British, one can never, ever, underestimate their capacity for fuckwittery.

The French have been saying this for centuries

we know the fookers quite well

Originally Posted by DrB0b

This, of course, is what we end up when we no longer have wars large enough to cull the peasant scum, the urban rat-people, and the more wide-eyed of the middle-classes.

damn, that's actually make sense, for once

Originally Posted by buriramboy

A Corbyn victory will lead to a run on the pound and a bear market on UK centric stocks but the FTSE 100 is comprised on many companies who make the majority of their loot outside the UK so will benefit or shareholders will in terms of increased dividends when converted back to £.

I don't think a Corbyn victory is going to make things much worse, you are heading there quite fast already with May

it's like driving a fast car, you are high on speed, but fail to see the wall coming fast

Originally Posted by buriramboy

Cameron and co never even contemplated the people would vote leave complacency was their mistake. Up until the results started coming in no one thought leave had a chance. People who has never voted before became out to vote as for the first time their vote would actually count. In general elections in the UK unless you happen to live in one of the 150 out of the 650 seats that actually has a chance of changing hands many people don't bother to vote as it's basically a pointless exercise in our first past the post system. 17.4 million people voted to leave that's the biggest democratic mandate ever been given in the UK. Just a shame over a year on remoaners still can't accept the result and are still actively working against the UK.

In regards to the actual vote, I believe the number of eligible voters in the U.K. is about 46.5 million voters. 17.4 million votes to leave, which is less than 37.5% or a little over a third of eligible voters IMO could not possibly be considered a mandate. Especially as there were 28% that did not vote at all. I would suggest that if the system was like Australia where voting is compulsory that the remain vote would have been carried, especially as the final count was so close and quite possibly by a reasonable majority.
This to me would indicate a substantial case for a new vote. I am quite staggered that a such pole is even considered valid without a substantial number even voting. I am a firm believer in compulsory voting and I think this has just strengthened my belief.
This has nothing to do with the merits of staying or leaving but all to do with carrying the majority of the population in the decision.
Contrary to SABC and DF, as an outside observer I am neither for nor against Brexit I have merely pointed out that much of the commentary is rhetoric with little economic fact and there are currently few facts to support the superiority of either argument.
DF just appears to be a Brit hater with a chip on his shoulder and his logic is totally flawed by this. One only needs to read most of DFs' commentary to see that there is very little substance other than invective. The actual vote IMO is the crux of the problem and may cause greater division amongst Brits without a new vote.... Naturally only my opinion.

I dont' hate Brits, I find them amusing, and all my arguments are substantiated by experts, but who cares

funny how the vote would have been contested by the Brexiters if it had been the other way,

remember how they claim that a low participation will be petitioned for casting a new vote

and yet, we had a low participation and a narrow margin, the silly Brexiters didn't ask for casting a new vote

pure dishonest and hypocrisy when they talk about people Democracy

Originally Posted by buriramboy

It's hard to know if are genuinely thick as pigshit or it's just an act. If 3 million extra people are accessing the NHS without increased infrastructure of course it's going to create a crisis you gormless pleb.

I've had more intelligent handkerchiefs than you, you total spastic.

Three million is scarcely 4.5% of the total population you fucking onion. Given that most are either in full time employment or education, allowing even for the most pessimistic of illness occurrence dynamics, they wouldn't even dent the existing statistics whereby the NHS have been recorded as dealing with over a million patients every 36 hrs.

You gormless moron, no fucking wonder your family got rid of you, you're worse than a fucking dead albatross soused in pla ra.

There are 35 million vehicles licensed to travel UK roads.

Brexit view "Everyfink wuz OK until them E.Europeans came and now we iz grid locked,. If it weren't for them we would be OK and could find any place to park innit because when dem pikey Europeans came it meant that all 35 million cars wuz on the roads at all the same time, innit! Stands to reason"

You totally gormless, monkey-headed, donkey fucking spastic twat..

Without any deal Britain is to become a third country on the 30 March 2019, that is to say it will assume the status of any other world state, third world, emerging or otherwise, and will forsake the advantages of an exclusive club that offers the world's best trading deals, superior social development and a cultural supremacy that is the envy of the world.
In short, it is to become the new coon state of Europe.
Truly amazing that any people would do such a fucked up batshit crazy thing.

Greece is overdue their next Giro, with an envious Ireland, Portugal and Spain weighing the value of national pride against annual blank cheques. But they'd best hurry and get what they can while they can, because when Italy turns up cap and razor in hand that's when the Fourth Reich will begin to visibly crumble.

So the usual suspects are right and Britain is indeed doomed, because as the EU crashes its unelected looters and tyrants will make sure to take everyone down with it.

Never mind 1984, try Atlas Shrugged.

some alarming news this morning,

UK companies are now demanding a plan by early December by PM May, or else they start pulling in the first quarter of 2018, and the early impact will be felt in early 2019

Barnier himself is preparing for a hard Brexit, and think there is no other way now. He made some declaration this week-end and he claims May doesn't even have a mandate from her own party to propose something feasible and credible. She is fucked. There is no way out.

Only a few more weeks, and you fookers can start getting what you sow

in the meantime, in the real world

EU preparing for possible collapse of Brexit talks - Barnier - BBC News

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

in the meantime, in the real world

EU preparing for possible collapse of Brexit talks - Barnier - BBC News

Part of the negotiations process, create fear, throttle to panic and hope it gets you more than you know you deserve.

there will be no deal. Mark my word

I will call Barnier myself if I have to

David Davis is at the golf club returning his locker key when Michel Barnier, the membership secretary sees him.

"Hello Mr Davis" says Barnier. "I'm sorry to hear you are no longer renewing your club membership. If you would like to come to my office we can settle your account".

"I have settled my bar bill" says Davis.

"Ah yes Mr Davis" says Barnier, "but there are other matters that need settlement".

In Barniers office, Davis explains that he has settled his bar bill so wonders what else he can possibly owe the golf club?

"Well Mr Davis" begins Barnier, "you did agree to buy one of our club jackets".

"Yes" agrees David, "I did agree to buy a jacket but I haven't received it yet". "As soon as you supply the jacket I will send you a cheque for the full amount".

"That will not be possible" explains Barnier. "As you are no longer a club member, you will not be entitled to buy one of our jackets"!

"But you still want me to pay for it" exclaims Davis.

"Yes" says Barnier, "that will be 500 pounds for the jacket". "There is also your bar bill".

"But I've already settled my bar bill" says Davis.

"Yes" says Barnier, "but as you can appreciate, we need to place our orders from the Brewery in advance to ensure our bar is properly stocked". "You regularly used to spend at least 50 pounds a week in the bar so we have placed orders with the Brewery accordingly for the coming year". You therefore owe us 2600 pounds for the year".

"Will you still allow me to have these drinks?" asks Davis.

"No of course not Mr Davis". "You are no longer a club member" says Barnier. "Next is your restaurant bill" continues Barnier. "In the same manner we have to make arrangements in advance with our catering supplier". "Your average restaurant bill was in the order of 300 pounds a month, so we'll require payment of 3600 pounds for the year".

"I don't suppose you'll be letting me have these meals either?" asks Davis.

"No, of course not" says an irritated Barnier, "you are no longer a club member".

"Then of course" Barnier continues, "there are repairs to the clubhouse roof".

"Clubhouse roof!" exclaims Davis, "what's that got to do with me?"

"Well it still needs to be repairs and the builders are coming in next week. Your share of the bill is 2000 pounds".

"I see" says Davis, "anything else?"

"Now you mention it" says Barnier, "there is Fred the Barman's pension"> "We would like you to pay 5 pounds a week towards Fred's pension when he retires next month". "he's not well you know, so I doubt we'll need to ask you for payment for longer than about five years, so 1300 pounds should do it"

"This brings your total bill to 10,000 pounds" says Barnier.

"Let me get this straight" says Davis. "You want me to pay 500 pounds for a jacket you won't let me have, 2600 pounds for beverages you won't let me drink, and 3600 pounds you won't let me eat, all under a roof I won't be allowed under, and not served by a bloke who's gong to retire next month?"

"Yes, it's all perfectly clear and quite reasonable" says Barnier, "when you agree to settle, we can talk about you paying us to allow us to sell you our other goods, and you can pay us to sell us your goods. This is called a free trade agreement".

^Even Gent and Butters should understand that analogy. Brilliantly encapsulates the pointlessness of the EU and why the U.K. is absolutely right to leave.

Posted this for (hopefully) intelligent discussion.

It’s a real pity that narrow minded fools will not listen to a successful global businessman, talking sense and realities.

Butters and Genticles would rather listen to the voices of socialist career politicians.

Great video Hugh.

" So, let me get this right, you Brexit cvunt, you want to play golf on our course, decide the green fees, expect the course to be maintained to your own liking, play to your own rules, ignore the etiquette determined by the Captain elected by the committee and the other members and you want to bring your chums to play whenever you want but you don't want to pay the membership fee. Is that right?"

"Yes".

" Fuck off, you silly wanker "

I rather think that scenario is perhaps a tad more analogous.

Incidentally, I note that the loopy Kipper loon and resident Tory nazi, John Redwood, who continually advocates a hard Brexit has advised his foreign clients to get their money out of Britain and into the EU. An economic pundit has described his actions as despicable and redolent of "disaster capitalism" wherein the punter advocates an action that precipitates chaos and loss after which the rich investor can return to the market and carpetbag as cheaper prices. I have been saying this for a while now but it is nice to see others picking up on it. The Tories truly are slime.

Seriously, you simply couldn't write it but one thing is becoming clearer by the day, the lumpen Brexiters, so well represented on this forum, are indeed morons.

As an aside, Dyson is an emigre capitalist using slave labour in the Far east having long abandoned the UK. Who gives a fuck what that hypocrite says or wants. He just wants to sell more of his over priced shit on terms he hopes hard Brexit will obtain for him.

I was really hoping for sound reasons for and against Dysons' comments. Both TDers opinion and sound economic arguments. If he is wrong or right how so?

" So, let me get this right, you Brexit cvunt, you want to play golf on our course, decide the green fees, expect the course to be maintained to your own liking, play to your own rules, ignore the etiquette determined by the Captain elected by the committee and the other members and you want to bring your chums to play whenever you want but you don't want to pay the membership fee. Is that right?"

For that to be a valid analogy, it would have to apply to any non member who trades with the E.U. would it not? Especially if the U.K. trades under WTO rules and also it does not deal with the high number of E.U. citizens as far as their future entitlements to pensions, unemployment health care and other benefits in the UK which I think compared to U.K. citizens currently in the E.U. is about 4 times larger..
There is also some validity in mentioning Dyson has moved all of his manufacturing operation to S.E. Asia, despite previously championing manufacturing in England.

Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

There is also some validity in mentioning Dyson has moved all of his manufacturing operation to S.E. Asia, despite previously championing manufacturing in England.

He moved manufacturing out of U.K. because the EU regulations made his products uncompetitive. Only a socialist fool like seeking Ass would expect industry to comply with more expensive EU rules.
Another reason why smart entrepreneurs want to escape the EU stranglehold on business.
The EU is a selective group operating outside global competition. Delusions of grandeur. That’s how Seeking Ass justifies living in a 3rd world dumpster called Pattaya.

Originally Posted by Switch

The EU is a selective group operating outside global competition.

And that is presumably why the world queues up to sign FTAs with it?

Life must be tough for Brexshit retards as they try to make sense of their pitiful little lives bereft of the illumination of intelligence, wit and knowledge that shines into the world inhabited by we more perspicacious folk blessed with functioning brains and the ability to use them.

Take this particular gibberish posted by the newly re-incarnated Switch. It must be a terrible inconvenient truth for this spastic to note that after China and Japan, the EU is Australia's largest trading partner and they are currently in the throes of turning a Partnership Framework Agreement into a FTA, negotiations for which began in 2015.

But the funniest thing as one observes the antics of these scarcely sentient creatures wriggling in the mire of ignorance and stupidity is that they cannot see the irony of proclaiming a new - found international entrepreneurship and unfettered global capitalism whilst withdrawing from the worlds' largest, wealthiest and most successful trading bloc on the planet.

Truly, their stupidity is infinite.

Originally Posted by Switch

^Even Gent and Butters should understand that analogy. Brilliantly encapsulates the pointlessness of the EU and why the U.K. is absolutely right to leave.

The analogy is quite silly and can only appeal to retards,

a better analogy would be a sponsor at a sporting event, that has decided not to sponsor an event for personal reasons, but because commitments were made, they will have to settle their bills for orders that were made before they pulled out

another analogy would be a wedding,

the groom has decided not to marry the bride for personal reasons (let's say he is gay for simplicity), but caterers and all the suppliers for the wedding have already committed resources for it, and demand to be paid. They didn't ask for the cancellation and are not responsible for it, it's the groom fault. Therefore he needs to settle his bills.

so at the end it's all about responsibilities, something you are not familiar with because you are spoiled little brats living in a recluse island in your own bubble. You failing responsibilities has been your trademark since you joined the EU and in every international agreement that you have joined.

basically you are a worthless liability, unrecoverable, and needs to be cut ASAP