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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Davis has a team of over 100 every time they meet,
    not difficult to put 100 bodies in a meeting, and I am disappointed how easily you can be fooled. The real question is do they have the skills ? probably not, they could be police officers on duty for all we know

    again you are proving to be a gullible fool, AssGent was right all along, you fookers are really living on a different planet

    good fooking ridance !!!

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    Isn't there something in article 50 about if a country leaves it has no financial obligations after leaving.

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    yes, the keyword is "AFTER"

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Isn't there something in article 50 about if a country leaves it has no financial obligations after leaving.
    You've been suckered by Farage if you still believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy
    You've been suckered by Farage if you still believe that.
    A House of Lords report last week also concluded that Britain has a right to walk away from the EU without owing it a euro. Of course that hasn’t stopped the rearguard Remain lobby from trying to present the 50billion bill as if it were a genuine contractual payment.

    Disgracefully the BBC sent its political editor Laura Kuenssberg on to the streets with a mocked-up 50billion cheque in a not-very-impartial attempt to scare the public. Each of the supposed claims against Britain’s coffers is nonsense.

    If we are no longer benefiting from EU infrastructure spending we should not be paying for it. If that means the EU is left struggling to find money to pay for motorways in Bulgaria or railways in Estonia it has the choice of either increasing the annual payments of countries that continue to be members of the EU or trimming some of its projects.
    Britain does not need to pay 50billion to leave the EU | Express Comment | Comment | Express.co.uk

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    Barnier says 'the UK needs to grow up and understand the consequences of Brexit'.

    Davis says 'nah nah ne nah nah you can't make me... '

    Brexit: UK to be 'educated' about consequences, says Barnier - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    Isn't there something in article 50 about if a country leaves it has no financial obligations after leaving.
    There is no talk of any bill in Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, which grants the right of a country to leave the union and lays out the process of doing so.
    You are correct BB. The 'Remoaners' can whistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Davis has a team of over 100 every time they meet,
    not difficult to put 100 bodies in a meeting, and I am disappointed how easily you can be fooled. The real question is do they have the skills ? probably not, they could be police officers on duty for all we know

    again you are proving to be a gullible fool, AssGent was right all along, you fookers are really living on a different planet

    good fooking ridance !!!
    The complexity of the negotiations means that there are various sub meetings between respective 'experts'. Do you seriously believe for one minute that the UK does not have it's sharpest cards at the table?

    Neither Davies or his EU counterpart participate in these meetings, they're only the mouthpieces afterwards, putting their own spin on progress. Of course they each set their respective red lines, but don't get into the technical discussions. If you were in serious need of a good lawyer or negotiator, Belguim.probably wouldn't figure highly on the list of candidate locations.

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    I think you need to read the actual report, published on 4 March, rather than the Express interpretation.

    It is based on a very tenuous point that the UK would no longer be subject to ECJ rules and that there would be no deals with the EU concerning trade or anything else. It is a legal interpretation with the caveat that it is not the only interpretation. It also assumes no politcal or moral obligations and if such an approach was taken you kiss any deals with the EU goodbye.

    Not the best economical strategy to be taken

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    If you were in serious need of a good lawyer or negotiator, Belguim.probably wouldn't figure highly on the list of candidate locations.


    PS: I'm off ta bed. Good night all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think you need to read the actual report, published on 4 March, rather than the Express interpretation.

    It is based on a very tenuous point that the UK would no longer be subject to ECJ rules and that there would be no deals with the EU concerning trade or anything else. It is a legal interpretation with the caveat that it is not the only interpretation. It also assumes no politcal or moral obligations and if such an approach was taken you kiss any deals with the EU goodbye.

    Not the best economical strategy to be taken
    Link? Don't read the Express....far too political for me. However, WTO is getting more and more attractive. How many full trucks at Dover, how many at Calais?

    Good day, unfortunately your BMW/Mercedes which we promised.would be 75,000 pounds will now be 82,500, sorry, wait, because of the.pound,.it's now 95,000.

    Meanwhile in Antwerp, hi your.Jaguar dealer, sorry your XJ8 is less than we thought. 70,000 for you and our best wishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    More good news

    Retailers: Brexit puts UK supply of fresh food at risk
    Popular fresh foods could disappear from UK supermarket shelves if the British government fails to negotiate post-Brexit customs procedures, the British Retail Consortium said. Without such measures, the number of imports requiring inspections will more than quadruple to 255 million a year, the group said.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...retailers-warn
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch....

    Farmers across Europe will suffer if UK drops food tariffs, report claims

    Butts, what is it you don't understand? The UK leaving the EU gives it freedom to source whatever it needs outwith the monopoly of the EU? Worse comes to worse, WTO applies. The UK imports much of it's agriculture needs, mostly fed from the EU. So, what happens when the EU is no longer competitive? Is the UK going to cry and demand the Brie and Prosecco it formerly enjoyed? No, it's a big world out there, other countries are licking their lips at doing more business with the UK.

    You carry on subsidising the disaster environments of the former USSR, with their third world accommodation, education, human rights, corruption, health care and personal freedom.

    Best the UK takes a long step backwards now, and lets Germany/France do the 'this is how it is' lecture to these countries. Good luck with that Angela/Emmanuel, just remember where the account is, and prepare your 'we didn't think it could happen' speeches.

    Oh, forgot, when you get your s**t together, you must join the Euro, and then we'll really screw you.

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    The penny will drop soon enough that we will no longer be obligated to buy the silly continentals over priced produce and we will source what we need from elsewhere for cheaper, if the EU want tariffs and a trade war bring it on, let the silly buggers lose one of their biggest customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    More good news

    Retailers: Brexit puts UK supply of fresh food at risk
    Popular fresh foods could disappear from UK supermarket shelves if the British government fails to negotiate post-Brexit customs procedures, the British Retail Consortium said. Without such measures, the number of imports requiring inspections will more than quadruple to 255 million a year, the group said.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...retailers-warn
    Meanwhile, back at the ranch....

    Farmers across Europe will suffer if UK drops food tariffs, report claims
    The report, which is now 6 months old, does not claim that at all. Even the Telegraph article, of which you have clearly only read the headline, doesn't claim that.

    What the report says, and this is from your link, is

    "As a result, we can expect the UK’s food manufacturing industry to face higher labour costs with the lower availability of foreign labour. This will have a negative impact on the competitive position of the British food manufacturing industry,"
    What is it with you and your ilk that you are incapable of either understanding plain English or of reading any further into a written article than the big eye-catching letters at the top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG
    Do you seriously believe for one minute that the UK does not have it's sharpest cards at the table?
    yes I believe that the UK doesn't have its sharpest cards at the table,

    that is the correct answer, PAGAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    What is it with you and your ilk that you are incapable of either understanding plain English or of reading any further into a written article than the big eye-catching letters at the top?
    it would take too much brain power, and could disrupt their little afternoon nap after reading such bad news

    hence, they mentally "block" it, a character trait of all conservatives

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    "Nobody pretended this would be easy" says Davis in Parliament, only to be told that he pretty much said it would be.


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    davis gave an assured and confident performance in the commons this afternoon.

    he seemed very much on top of his game and i have no doubt he will secure a deal for the uk that both meets the wishes of brexiteers and benefits the economy of the uk.

    no fear, no fear at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    "Nobody pretended this would be easy" says Davis in Parliament, only to be told that he pretty much said it would be.

    It was only going to be easy if the EU wanted to play ball which they obviously don't thinking they can extort the UK for whatever they see fit and we would just bow down and give them what ever they asked for, now they realise that isn't going to happen and the reality of the situation is slowly sinking in expect them to change their tone within the next 6 months. By the way why does a Brit seemingly want to see the UK get screwed, should you not be wanting the best possible deal for the UK regardless of your political affiliation? You are also aware you can renounce your British citizenship if you so desire, i'll happily support you if support is required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    davis gave an assured and confident performance in the commons this afternoon.

    he seemed very much on top of his game and i have no doubt he will secure a deal for the uk that both meets the wishes of brexiteers and benefits the economy of the uk.

    no fear, no fear at all.
    I like Davis, no idea why he didn't throw his hat in the ring after Cameron stood down especially after the Boris/Gove fiasco, would rather have had him as PM than May.

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    if he manages to get a good result in europe, and i think he will, then he may well end up as the next leader of the tory party.

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    Whatever happens I can't see May leading the Tories into the next election and as much as I like Rees-Mogg for his deliverance he isn't PM material although would be funny as fuk should he end up with the job with the current momentum behind him on social media. I personally currently can't see a better man than Davis for the top job, although would have no objection to IDS having the reins again, but he's a bit toxic amongst certain parts of the Tory party.

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    ids is capable but something of a joke, hes better off kept out of sight behind the scenes.

    rees mogg is a character and a half, and probably the sharpest tool they have, but his accent and background are extremely unfashionable at the moment. he needs to prove himself for a few years first.

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    I wouldn't describe IDS as a joke he had the balls to take on much needed welfare reform which was always going to be a poisoned chalice and did a damn good job with the universal credit despite having to fight SeekingAss civil service every step of the way and the obstacles they put in front of him making his job near on impossible. But the reforms he started are starting to bear fruit now. Also when he was Tory leader he did well at the dispatch box, a straight talking bloke hence not popular amongst the establishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    "Nobody pretended this would be easy" says Davis in Parliament, only to be told that he pretty much said it would be.

    It was only going to be easy if the EU wanted to play ball which they obviously don't thinking they can extort the UK for whatever they see fit and we would just bow down and give them what ever they asked for, now they realise that isn't going to happen and the reality of the situation is slowly sinking in expect them to change their tone within the next 6 months. By the way why does a Brit seemingly want to see the UK get screwed, should you not be wanting the best possible deal for the UK regardless of your political affiliation? You are also aware you can renounce your British citizenship if you so desire, i'll happily support you if support is required.
    Quite simply the EU doesn't have to play ball. The idea they do is a myth and it will be the UK that will drop the so-called red lines in order to reach a beneficial settlement.

    The UK had the best deal. Anything that comes post brexit will be a worse deal.

    Are you expecting everybody that didn't vote for brexit to stay quiet or leave the island? That's a novel approach to democracy.

    Davis is looking tired and a little worse for wear after his recent visit to Europe. Marked difference compared to his speech this time last year.

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