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    Really, i'm not the idiot who's been repeating his one sided diatribe for 3 years thinking he's so smart but making himself look like a pillock. Carry on though.

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    people, stop fighting, you should be mad at your politicians ineffective skills, not shooting the messenger or those whistleblowers in the press or opinion piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    ONS statistics, you dozy eejit - GDP shrank 0.4% April.

    Worst fucking figures since 2002.

    Brexit, the fucking retard's show that just keeps on giving, brought to you by ImbecilicFuckwits'RUs.

    Honestly, it's like the whole fucking country has become populated by ESN folk.
    Must have missed the financial crisis then is you think GDP contracting by 0.4% is the worst since 2002. Remind my of UK HDP 3 years ago and the figure now? You really are economically illiterate.

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    What, you mean the "one sided diatribe for 3 years " that's been spot on every fucking step of the way, you moron.

    What is it with you munters, does the truth scare you? Your gormless wee Brexit dream turning into a steaming pile of utter shite?

    Fucking morons.

    But as the curtain rises on Act 3 of the Tory farce " Broken Down Brexit Britain" we are to see BoJo the Clown's Travelling Circus hit town, and it's going to be a gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Must have missed the financial crisis then is you think GDP contracting by 0.4% is the worst since 2002. Remind my of UK HDP 3 years ago and the figure now? You really are economically illiterate.
    Manufacturing figures, you gormless retard.

    Christ, your folks really wasted their money on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Manufacturing figures, you gormless retard.

    Christ, your folks really wasted their money on you.
    Could have sworn you were talking about GDP in fact I thought you made that pretty clear in your posts by mentioning fucking GDP, but now its manufacturing figures you claim to be referring to. As I said you are fucking economically illiterate, you see some figures but have no idea how to interpret them or what they mean.

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    let's summarize the issues here:

    1. Doris deal has been ratified at the EU level, including the UK
    2. The 39b has been agreed and is binding, not paying will be default, though not associated with UK debt, but will send the wrong signal to world markets
    3. The political declaration is a formality to finalize the future relationship of the EU/UK if I understand correctly, it's not really needed legally to have Doris deal move forward, but it's needed politically

    so wtf is Boris going to do, Doris deal is settled and binding, so is he going to default on the 39b, and go for no future relationship with the EU within 2 years by not pushing legislation for the next 2 years to shape that future relationship?

    again, in true British style, it's all fuzzy and shit like a chav explanation on an upcoming timesharing lucrative deal or a sure thing on a betting spread

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    The meeting of Tourettes and Alzheimer's is a sad sight.

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    If you thought Maybot shitshow was legendary, let's wait for BoJo next 2 years after he request an extension on Oct 31 so he can make himself useful for the next few years!!!

    Brexit is doomed

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    You silly old etiolated flubberfuck, get your head out of your fundament. I was the one who said ..........
    you have never predicted anything correctly. you are forever making these opinionated predictions based on the unhealthy and misleading prejudices you derive from staring aimlessly into your tea eaves or crystal ball.

    perhaps you should set up shop on pattaya pier


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    let's summarize the issues here:
    Your summary woudl be interesting if it is indeed correct rather than another of your statements intended only to provoke comment and irritation.

    If it is indeed true it implies a massive conspiracy and cover up by the EU and members of UK Gov and opposition parties.

    Please do provide some sources for your summary so that we may all achieve your enlightened state of mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    The 39b was never a core question
    It was a core issue for the EU side. It was the first thing they wanted to get the UK to agree to in the negotiations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    let's wait for BoJo next 2 years after he request an extension on Oct 31 so he can make himself useful for the next few years!!!
    If he does that, he's history. He'll be out of a job and there will be a general election with the Tories losing seats and power. Some Tory MPs may even jump ship to the Brexit Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Chas, you focking idiot, the inflation rate in June 2016 was zero but by 2018 it was 3%. What other momentous event in British socio-economic-poltical history happened that provoked it if was not the referendum vote, you gormless idiot. And I predicted the immediate fall in £ value and said that it would hit near parity with the USD on a hard Brexit. We still haven't had fucking Brexit yet and we still don't know on what terms but nevertheless the rate is now $1.26 which is pretty well on trend to conform to my forecast that has been echoed by the fucking markets. And in the same way inflation rose on the 2016 devaluation so it will again when we get the hard brexit devaluation, you mofo.
    Jesus, it's a fucking certainty.
    With Germany, France and Italy close to technical recession, itís really no surprise that UK is caught up in uncertain economic decline. Being a rather important member of the failing European sloth is bound to affect all the major players.
    You are too stupid for words. No better than a female fundamental orrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    It was a core issue for the EU side. It was the first thing they wanted to get the UK to agree to in the negotiations.
    indeed and why it's not a core issue for the next PM to move forward,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warwick View Post
    Your summary woudl be interesting if it is indeed correct rather than another of your statements intended only to provoke comment and irritation.

    If it is indeed true it implies a massive conspiracy and cover up by the EU and members of UK Gov and opposition parties.
    it's not a massive conspiracy, it's simply not disclosed to the public, governments do that all the time on strategic matters

    anyway, EU negotiating specialists have said that Doris deal is binding, and if you look at the language used on the BBC and a few news media, they started saying the 'political declaration', not the 'ratification' of the agreement, it's already been ratified

    I can only assume ratification has no meaning if no political leaders can carry the legislation into local parliament, which is basically the case here

    it's like getting approved for a loan, but the funds of the loan are not coming to your account, it's stuck in 'soft mode'

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Could have sworn you were talking about GDP in fact I thought you made that pretty clear in your posts by mentioning fucking GDP, but now its manufacturing figures you claim to be referring to. As I said you are fucking economically illiterate, you see some figures but have no idea how to interpret them or what they mean.
    GDP contracted because of the worst manufacturing figures since 2002, you fucking div, it's fucking obvious from the tenor of my posts and a direct consequence of the Brexit inanity. What did you think had caused the contraction? A fucking slump in derivative dwarf strawberry trading?

    Dozy twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    If he does that, he's history. He'll be out of a job and there will be a general election with the Tories losing seats and power. Some Tory MPs may even jump ship to the Brexit Party.
    how can you make that claim? didn't you chavs claim there will be blood in the streets and May would be finished if she didn't go hard brexit on March 29th?

    We have 2 scenarios:

    1. BoJo suspend 'illegally' parliament and doesn't extendend to stop the future relationship of the EU/UK as approved and ratified by EU27 and Therease May HM Government (basically a political default and possibly a financial default), hence he will take all the blame if things go wrong, and will do a runner like Cameron if they do
    2. BoJo tells his supporters to fuck off and play the same Doris games but for hard Brexit instead

    either way, no blood in the streets, and you fuckers will swallow whatever cum loads your leaders are throwing at you

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    so the situation is far worse what we were lead to believe, and far more muggy than we thought

    that's why hard brexit didn't happen, and will never happen

    completely stuck in some international political and financial fuckup, can't believe Doris lasted that long, that was a huge mistake to let her stay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    how can you make that claim?
    Because PM candidate BoJo is saying we will leave by 31 October, deal or no deal. If he goes against that, he's toast.

    There's no way he will get away with repeating what May did. Once bitten, twice shy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Because PM candidate BoJo is saying we will leave by 31 October, deal or no deal. If he goes against that, he's toast.

    There's no way he will get away with repeating what May did. Once bitten, twice shy.
    in theory you are right, but you haven't seen the extend of the fuckup yet. Once BoJo realizes as PM how fucked the whole thing is, he will have no choice than find a compromise. I think Doris has been hiding a few gems from the public eye and her MPs.

    BoJo will either have to go along and save the situation or fuck things even more and do a runner ala Cameron

    you do not realize how much in the shit you are, and frankly, everyone in EU, except stupid Merkel of course, wouldn't mind to see you fuck off and go down in flame in a hard brexit if they thought it was feasible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    With Germany, France and Italy close to technical recession, it’s really no surprise that UK is caught up in uncertain economic decline. Being a rather important member of the failing European sloth is bound to affect all the major players.
    You are too stupid for words. No better than a female fundamental orrifice.
    So how come Fox is trying to replicate all the trade deals contracted by that " sloth" and to extend the current membership relationship insofar as trade and services are concerned, you fucking idiot. Honestly, I've potted more intelligent tomato plants.

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    A lot of misunderstanding among you all, there are good explanations about the British debt to EU on the net.

    Why does Britain have to pay anything to the EU if it is leaving?

    When Britain became a member of the 28-nation bloc, it agreed to a whole range of rules—including the EU’s long-term budget and contributing to huge infrastructure projects that have a long time frame for completion.
    Britain signed up to the EU’s budget framework when it became a member; budgets are not calculated year by year. The EU budget is a “legal act” and is over a seven year span. The last one started in 2014 and it ends in 2020. So, when Britain leaves the EU—tentatively set for March, 2019—it will still be liable to pay its share for the remaining seven quarters—from April 2019 until the end of 2020.

    Even if Britain leaves in 2019, if there are projects it agreed to contribute to that are meant to be completed by 2030, it would still have to pay for what it promised to fund at the time. This is the same for if a project in the UK was meant to be completed by 2030—EU members would have to continue paying the UK.

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    The idea that Britain shouldn't pay its debt if it exits without a deal is an absurd idea, I'm sure that Britain will honor its obligations.
    BoJo's idea that he can withhold all or part of the payment is equally stupid, it really shows that he is misfit for the PM job.
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    Hard Brexit is not happening, that's why Doris wasn't credible when she was sending threats to her MPs for approving the 'politicial declaration' of the already EU ratified (which the UK is still part of) deal, they knew that technically Hard Brexit is not possible and not even the default anymore. That ship has sailed. It's not even on the 39b payout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post

    Even if Britain leaves in 2019, if there are projects it agreed to contribute to that are meant to be completed by 2030, it would still have to pay for what it promised to fund at the time. This is the same for if a project in the UK was meant to be completed by 2030—EU members would have to continue paying the UK.

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    The idea that Britain shouldn't pay its debt if it exits without a deal is an absurd idea, I'm sure that Britain will honor its obligations.
    BoJo's idea that he can withheld all or part of the payment is equally stupid, it really shows that he is misfit for the PM job.
    correcto, even though I disagree that PM Bojo is not at par for the job, I think he is perfect for the job because we are in a completely crazy and absurd situation with no way out. Only a clown or a mad man could take us out at this stage. Hence BoJo is our only hope.

    I think everyone knows that by now,

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