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    ^Talking about boredom jeez

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    So you think that the average wage in eastern Europe being about 1/3 what it is in the UK is nothing to do with it then.
    You could always change your ways and take time to read a post before replying.

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    Troy you are aware how much the government takes from us in tax is the highest it's been for years. Not just talking income tax, but national insurance, fuel duty, VAT, stamp duty etc etc. Income tax might be low with a generous tax free allowance but fuck do they get it back and more everywhere else.

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    ^^ Now you're just being silly again. UK companies were actively recruiting from East European countries for cheap labour. That method of increasing profits through cheap labour markets would be stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Smeggly, you're just flat out trolling now.

    Your tendency towards obsessive point scoring is really coming to the fore.

    Isn't it time you got back to that thriving forum of your own?

    The list of aspiring new members you'll have to bin for not having brown enough noses must be piling up.
    Seriously fuck off you boring cvnt with your never ending tedious drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Troy you are aware how much the government takes from us in tax is the highest it's been for years. Not just talking income tax, but national insurance, fuel duty, VAT, stamp duty etc etc. Income tax might be low with a generous tax free allowance but fuck do they get it back and more everywhere else.
    I am. A pity it isn't being spent wisely at the moment. How much has this Brexit debacle cost?

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    One thing is for sure. We can all cut that crap about it having nothing to do with immigration, which was denied by most. Brexit isn't about freedom to trade throughout the world as much as it is to do with controlling the numbers entering the country
    Have we got that bit cleared up?

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    ^ My point is it will reduce, if not stop, the active recruitment currently being carried out in poorer countries within the EU.

    I am not an economist and nor are you, which is plainly obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    One thing is for sure. We can all cut that crap about it having nothing to do with immigration, which was denied by most. Brexit isn't about freedom to trade throughout the world as much as it is to do with controlling the numbers entering the country
    Have we got that bit cleared up?
    No one has said it has nothing to do with immigration, Brexiteers just want an end to uncontrolled immigration from Europe. Like the rest of the world has to do if EU citizens want to live and work in the UK then they can apply for a Visa like everyone else has to. That's why you will find most people with spouses from outside the EU voted Brexit as why should a UK national have to pay thousands to get their spouse legal in the UK when a Bulgarian or Romanian whole family can just freely come and live in the country. Obviously DrBob being the exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    It's irrelevant to the debate. My cousin didn't actively recruit anywhere other than locally and took on four Poles very cheaply. If he had to pay 20 per hour he'd probably have their friends coming over from Warsaw to bang his door down.
    It's not irrelevant to the debate. Your cousin is benefitting from people already in the country because of others being actively recruited previously. This paved the way for others to come across and find accommodation before finding a job. The whole problem stems from the explanation I gave previously, which was the weakening of the unions and allowing employers to take advantage. This is a UK government problem and independent of EU membership. The reduced number of EU citizens has already been offset by the number of third nationals arriving, which will have been actively recruited and cause exactly the same problems. The same problems screamed about when the West Indians arrived, when the Indians arrived and etc.

    Besides you are forgetting there is now no advantage to employing a Pole instead of a Brit, unless of course, they are better at the job.

    I say again, the problem will not be fixed by leaving the EU. It may even get worse, depending on whether EU worker rights directives are mirrored in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    One thing is for sure. We can all cut that crap about it having nothing to do with immigration, which was denied by most. Brexit isn't about freedom to trade throughout the world as much as it is to do with controlling the numbers entering the country
    Have we got that bit cleared up?
    Nope, unless anyone out there believes incoming will be seriously reduced with 'control of our borders', no less erroneous than 'no deal'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    You'll find the vast majority of countries in the world don't have freedom of movement with their neighbouring countries.

    You refused to give a definitive answer as to whether you think China's 1.6 billion should be able to work freely in Japan. It certainly wouldn't be of benefit to Japan to allow it, which is why it doesn't. You appear to be suggesting that they should become marxist by toughening up their unions and then open the doors.
    You'll find the vast majority of countries are benefitting from the EU single market. China and Japan don't even have an FTA and is quite irrelevant to the discussion.

    Are you telling me there was no active recruitment by UK companies in Eastern European countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    They're perfectly entitled to. It's a single market after all. Either you like it or you don't. You seems to like it, apart from when you don't like it.
    So you're happy with active recruitment of people to come into the country on lower wages than for an equivalent Brit. You are happy that the employer can dictate how he trains people and how he pays people with weak unions that can't protect British workers. You believe simply stopping the free movement of people from the EU will protect the average worker from employer exploitation. You think that leaving the EU and the worker rights that come with it is good and that the UK will be far better off.

    Good luck with that mate.

    My patience has finally run out for the day but thank-you, it has prepared me well for tomorrow, where I have to explain basic real-time software concepts to a bunch of blockheads.

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    ^ Here is a video of Mr Corbyn having that discussion with Andrew Marr (23rd July, 2017).


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    ^ If Brexiteers are so smart how come they didn't get Brexit even though the Referendum went in their favour?

    Those crafty Remainers with their superior intellects.... like taking candy from a baby!

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    ^ Awwww, so cute .....still thinks Brexit is possible.

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    You set up for another half century of bickering today then, Nige?

    Might as well...cold and grey outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    You set up for another half century of bickering today then, Nige?

    Might as well...cold and grey outside.
    As opposed to the half century of posts you will make consisting of what exactly?

    #boringtediouscunt

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    May is primarily concerned with her legacy now, and it seems clear that one of three things will happen next month, the month of the european elections. Either she'll get her deal through and resign, or she'll fail to get it through and resign, or a GE will be called.

    Whatever happens she knows she's in the final few weeks of the job.
    Not sure what any of the above has to do with The Brexit Dream being dead in the water ...just the usual Smego deflection when presented with facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    Who says they won't? Remainers that refuse to accept losing the referendum are doing everything that can to frustrate it regardless of the likely longterm damage that does to democracy and the risk of economic damage via social disorder but they haven't achieved it yet.
    Wish I could agree, but realistically looks like we're going down with the ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelFarage View Post
    ^ Awww, so cute ......still in denial and thinks remain will triumph.



    May is primarily concerned withher legacy now, and it seems clear that one of three things will happen next month, the month of the european elections. Either she'll get her deal through and resign, or she'll fail to get it through and resign, or a GE will be called.

    Whatever happens she knows she's in the final few weeks of the job.
    ...and with nothing to lose. Can't see her worrying too much over her legacy either, made her choice to sell out for a cushy number and would be gobsmacked if she seriously believes she will not go down as the worst PM since Eden.

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    So only Smego and Herr Neverna think Brexit is still on...

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    Who is going to win the Euro elections FuFu? Presuming of course we take part and Doris hasn't somehow got her deal through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Who is going to win the Euro elections FuFu? Presuming of course we take part and Doris hasn't somehow got her deal through.
    Sounds like quite the consolation prize ..enjoy!

    Imagine if, back in 2016, its the day after the Referendum, someone from the future comes and tells you that Brexit won't happen and then shows you the above post and says, "This is how your future self will respond..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Sounds like quite the consolation prize ..enjoy!

    Imagine if, back in 2016, its the day after the Referendum, someone from the future comes and tells you that Brexit won't happen and then shows you the above post and says, "This is how your future self will respond..."
    Dont like answering questions do you FuFu? Go on it's only a guess, who do you think will win the Euro elections?

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