Seems he was.
"Each new President is nominated by the European Council and formally elected by the European Parliament, for a five-year term."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres...ean_Commission
Seems he was.
"Each new President is nominated by the European Council and formally elected by the European Parliament, for a five-year term."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pres...ean_Commission
Perhaps eventually that wil permeate chitty's six inch thick skull, but don't bank on it.
Troy logic says that we remain unless there is an alternative that delivers better than the status-quo with no referendum.
The idea of lumping no-deal and the Agreement into the same to show more support for leaving at 38%vs 36% is silly because it could also suggest only 38% for brexit and 62% against.
Making up shit is the Brexiteer method you and your namesake continue to employ as cheap tricks that fool only fools.. A reason why referendums don't have more than a choice between 2.
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Two choices then. Leave, or remain?
Oh wait ......
Here's something that should bring people together...
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...n-after-brexitBritain needs to take special measures if it is ever to recover from the scarring social divisions exacerbated by Brexit, says a working party drawn from the country’s leading institutions.
The Guardian understands one of the initiatives that has caught the imagination of the group is the creation of the post of “healing tsar” – a unifying figure to promote a feeling of national togetherness. Several well-known figures have been sounded out for the role, although there are worries that the politicians involved will try to parachute their own preferred candidate into the job.
Operating in secret, the group is studying a series of proposals to “put harmony back into the national mood, to sow accord where there is discord, collaboration where there is conflict”. Music is seen as vital to the task.
The idea was first mentioned privately by Prince Charles, who, although he has kept his views on the EU to himself, is said by insiders to be deeply troubled by what he sees as a dislocation between the people and the institutions of the country.
Senior sources close to official figures say he fears the royal family could be drawn into the bitter divide – one of the reasons why he and his wife, Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, absented themselves on a trip to Cuba during the 1 million-strong march through London and the parliamentary climax of the Brexit process.
In heated meetings behind closed doors at Thenford House in Northamptonshire, the estate belonging to Michael Heseltine, the Liberal Democrat representative argued strongly for party supporter Bob Geldof as “healing tsar”. One insider promoting Geldof’s credentials said: “He brought the country together with Live Aid – he can do it again.”
Those close to Geldof say he is reworking his biggest hit, Do They Know It’s Christmas? – but with the chorus changed to: “Heal the island, let them know it’s bonding time.”
Brexit disputes will not stop after actual Brexit,
like the Eurospectics that sabotaged EU integration with the UK for decades, the Europhiles Remainers will sabotage UK politics for the next decades
when things get worse, the division will still be there with a lot of "told you so" and "face saving" posture and ressentment
Staying in the customs union isn't Brexit, how come the losers of the referendum are trying to dictate policy and the question of any further vote?
Tbh hope I'm wrong but while May and her cronies chant Brexit I think we will end up with no Brexit or at very best such a soft Brexit that the entire operation will turn out to be an expensive, time consuming and divisive hoax.
If they win, we lose, no big deal, get on with it.
^ You are entitled to your opinion however flawed it may be. The UK will remain in the Customs Union for the 2 years and EU rights for citizens continue to apply.
I'm afraid Brexiteers have only themselves to blame for Brexit failing,
The Tories have royally shat the bed by triggering A50 without having the first clue what happens next.
After nearly 3 years the deadline has been reached and Brexiteers have failed to provide a viable exit path by way of re-securing existing trade deals and the new deals that where promised as a result of the UK throwing off the shackles of the EU.
All this time the pound has been suffering and companies in their droves have shifted assets out of the UK in the face of uncertainty( kryptonite for businesses).
Even Moog is having second thoughts ...no MP in their right mind will back a hard Brexit because they know it will cause irreparable damage to the UK economy without a viable exit plan.
Only the creme de la creme of the "swivel eyed loons" in the Tory party are still asking for a hard Brexit.
From the start the European Council was clear that the UK would have to leave through the article 50 process as set out by EU law, and all we've seen from the British since then is grandstanding and whining.
Immediately would be April 12, not next month. No-deal means I have 3 months to register as a third national in Germany. The May Agreement means I do nothing but wait until the terms of the transition have been negotiated. The May agreement means 39 BN to the EU. No I am not saying I'm wrong.
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Erm we remain in the customs union it means unable to sign our own trade deals and will have to abide by the rules of any the EU sign without a say in them. If staying in the customs union remaining in the EU would be preferable. Maybe that's the plan of these devious remainers.
Turkey's customs union covers industrial goods only and took 30 years to negotiate. It has taken another 24 years to get to the point where they are only now talking about starting discussions to expand it. Turkey must also comply with EU customs and Tariffs rules. Also, the EU imposes tariffs on trade with Turkey but Turkey is not allowed to impose tariffs on trade with the EU. Hardly "taking back control".
Switzerland is part of the single market and so must agree to the four freedoms. As freedom of movement is a red-line for Brexiters that's a no-no.
I think Ken Clarke's customs union motion will pass as even though it's not Brexit it will still keep the Wogs out which, after all, is what Brexiters mean when they say "taking back control".
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Wow...maybe he really is Nige?
And not Smeg?
It would explain why he finds it so hard to understand four rather straightforward things.
How does ending free movement from within the EU keep the wogs out when most Europeans are white? Haven't really thought that one through have you, other than showing yet again that the real racists are remainers who want preferential treatment for predominantly white Europeans.
Turkey - Trade - European Commission more detailed links at the bottom of the page.
The relationship status prior to agreement is entirely irrelevant.
Where do you get the 18% figure from. The most accurate figures Ive seen say between 8 and 18% with extremes usually only being used for rhetorical effect. Even so, those numbers pale into insignificance when compared with UK numbers, the EU can take an 18% hit on exports, can the UK take a 44% hit? https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/
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