Thread: Brexit - It's Still On!

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Germany is bankrupt, held together by underhand accounting.

Originally Posted by cyrille

I'd never realised until this thread how far away in lalaland betty is.

Brexit has definitely broken something in him. He's the second intelligent person I've seen on TD degenerate over time into paranoia and jargon-spouting weirdness. Such a strange and disturbing thing to watch.

Needed a clear understanding of all the jargon so watched this. All clear now. Worth the 20 mins imo but skip if ya can't spare the time.

I'm guessing it is May's Deal or No Brexit, with a deal breaker that she will quit if they agree to her deal. Stubborn old mule

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

I'm guessing it is May's Deal or No Brexit, with a deal breaker that she will quit if they agree to her deal. Stubborn old mule

Quitting is not leverage, it's either that on 'honourable' terms or walk the plank.

Originally Posted by jabir

Quitting is not leverage

You'll probably see no wider application of that comment.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Lacking the abillity to see the good in something doesn't make those who can stupid.

Try reading the post you quoted more carefully.

All this pales into insignificance against the totalitarian state introducing speed limiting cars.

A50 was written by an Englishman.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

didn't say that the English were fooled. I said that Article 50 is a flawed instrument

No, you said it was designed to stump, which is to confuse, confound, and fool.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

All this pales into insignificance against the totalitarian state introducing speed limiting cars.

Start a new thread, moron.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Start a new thread, moron.

Precious this is about Brexit. I feel you've not truly found your Momentum and Corbyist flow today, all that late night posting catching up?. You too could just fuk off for a bit, you are getting as tedious as Gent and occasionally a little Foo like.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

A50 was written by an Englishman.

FFS. It was written by a Scotsman. It is also short, clear, and easily understandable, anyone who believes it was designed to create chaos, like the Fromage multinik above is the sort of person who shouldn't be trusted with a crayon in case he harms himself.

Originally Posted by NamPikToot

Precious this is about Brexit.

Why am I not surprised you speak like Gollum? It's not about Brexit, now go away and let the grown-ups talk.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

FFS. It was written by a Scotsman. It is also short, clear, and easily understandable, anyone who believes it was designed to create chaos, like the Fromage multinik above is the sort of person who shouldn't be trusted with a crayon in case he harms himself.

Come on Bob, calm down, what's that saying about resorting to bad language. You are correct ref A50 though, it is clear.

You have merely confirmed what I already said and contradicted yourself. It took you only four posts to make a fool of yourself although I take some credit for lending you a helping hand. Well done.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

You'll need to explain

No. No, I don't. What is it with you people and your inflated sense of entitlement? I don't need to do anything for or about you.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Article 50 isn't fit for purpose and was bound to lead to the current chaos.

Nonsense. Article 50 is clear and simple. If you find it confusing that says more about you than the article.

Article 50

1. Any Member State may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.

2. A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.

3. The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.

4. For the purposes of paragraphs 2 and 3, the member of the European Council or of the Council representing the withdrawing Member State shall not participate in the discussions of the European Council or Council or in decisions concerning it.

A qualified majority shall be defined in accordance with Article 238(3)(b) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union.

5. If a State which has withdrawn from the Union asks to rejoin, its request shall be subject to the procedure referred to in Article 49.

And that's all there is to it.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

You've just made my point perfectly thank you. Clear and simple doesn't mean fit for purpose. Quite the opposite in fact. It needed to be far more comprehensive and well thought out.

Nonsense. Its sole purpose is to confirm the procedure for states to leave the union and it does that simply and clearly.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

It needed to be far more comprehensive and well thought out.

Oh the irony...

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Lacking the abillity to see the good in something doesn't make those who can stupid.

You must be new here.

Meet the Belgian, assguy and fufu, if they give you a headache have a word with the internet doc, he's not really a doc but likes to big up. And of course squirrel if you make a spelling or grammer era.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Why am I not surprised you speak like Gollum? It's not about Brexit, now go away and let the grown-ups talk.

Care to list the grown-ups, I mean aside from your giant self, squirrel, assguy, the Belgian and fufu?

The EU is not responsible for the dangerous ignorance and incompetence of those in the UK tasked with dealing with Brexit. The UK is responsible for them but is displaying an almost Thai-like ability to blame others for its self-inflicted wounds.The current mess is entirely the fault those who fed lies to an electorate almost completely ignorant of the facts.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

If you think the process for untangling the world's most complex marriage can be set out in a few simple sentences then you're a fool. It's deeply flawed and leaves almost everything to time-limited negotiation, something that would never go well when both parties would prefer to remain.

I may be a fool but unlike you I know that A50 is NOT the process, far from it. I also know that if you are worried about time limits it is foolish in the extreme to start the timer before you are ready. Triggering A50 before having any plans in place was both unnecessary and an idiotic act of national self-harm.

Originally Posted by NigelFarage

Yes remainer Cameron and remainer May have a lot to answer for.

I blame those who were stupid enough to vote for the Brexit Party ....twice.