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    I can see a compromise coming next week to ensure an orderly brexit. It won't be coming from the EU since they have no need to change their position. Instead, Labour and Tories will agree the backstop is necessary and the UK will stay in the Customs Union until an FTA is completed.

    It will mean the UK will effectively be in the EU for a few more years.

    No-deal is simply too big a risk to let happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I can see a compromise coming next week to ensure an orderly brexit. It won't be coming from the EU since they have no need to change their position. Instead, Labour and Tories will agree the backstop is necessary and the UK will stay in the Customs Union until an FTA is completed.

    It will mean the UK will effectively be in the EU for a few more years.

    No-deal is simply too big a risk to let happen.
    I do need to consult the Oracle on this.

    So, how many is a 'few' years? No need to be precise, just have a stab: Is it 3, 7, 15, 27, 40, 78?

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    Oh, I think we can discount all your guesses for a start. If May compromises and agrees to stay in Customs Union until FTA is agreed and this means freedom of movement, then it will be more than 2years and probably 4 or 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You only ever post your opinion, and try to pass it off as fact. That’s easy to interpret. You are a muppet.

    Troy is angry because his birth country can’t afford his skill set. TBH if I had the choice of living in U.K. or Germany, I would choose Germany ....... after the EU breaks up.
    gee, I must have not been following, because you never posted your opinions on Brexit

    and never projected silly speculative scenarios about Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I once worked with a French exchange worker. He was assistant environment manager on the Central Massif.

    He was most put out to find he was required to bring a flask and sandwiches to work, and consume them in a leaky old land rover while sheltering from the rain.

    Not in the least jealous. He admitted that he learned more about karst upland management in his six month exchange, than he did in six years in France. Very nice bloke.
    and obviously you still think about him, years after, in some kind of homoerotic kind of way

    you old dirty English perv scum, your Lithuanian nurse is not enough to satisfy your dirty mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I can see a compromise coming next week to ensure an orderly brexit. It won't be coming from the EU since they have no need to change their position. Instead, Labour and Tories will agree the backstop is necessary and the UK will stay in the Customs Union until an FTA is completed.

    It will mean the UK will effectively be in the EU for a few more years.

    No-deal is simply too big a risk to let happen.
    don't make any speculation or assumptions about Maybot plan, she is chickenhead running around randomly in a caged backyard looking for a big open exit

    I am starting to suspect she is playing dumb to force her deal on the eve of the deadline with a last minute vote

    dangerous game, but again your MPs are cowards and whimps, so it might actually work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Oh, I think we can discount all your guesses for a start. If May compromises and agrees to stay in Customs Union until FTA is agreed and this means freedom of movement, then it will be more than 2years and probably 4 or 5.
    that just sounds too reasonable, so not going to happen with Maybot

    5 years? more like 20 years to get out, possibly never

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    Oh, I think we can discount all your guesses for a start. If May compromises and agrees to stay in Customs Union until FTA is agreed and this means freedom of movement, then it will be more than 2years and probably 4 or 5.
    I admire your confidence in treating your wild hopes/guesses/expectations as fact, and am moving to the conclusion that the best thing we could do is place the future of the UK in your capable hands.

    But just to clarify: As it stands, May is boxed in by gods insisting there will be no further negotiations. And you suggest it is she that should 'compromise' by accepting the same deal she has already accepted and historically failed to pass through Parliament, pending a hopeful FTA; not a guaranteed FTA, because in my world wishful thoughts don't create facts, so read that as a hopeful FTA.

    Yet you fail to explain why, under what circumstances or in which dimension, having us precisely where they want us, paying billions to remain legally trapped in an indefinite CU with no FTA, and with the right to keep us there for the rest of this century, the EU would after 2 or 'probably 4 or 5 years' get fed up of taking our money and release us, oh and with a FTA, as reward for our generous contributions to their great cause.

    Was that your best guess, hope, expectation or fantasy?

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    Brexit: May to make plea to MPs for time to change deal
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47187491

    Prime Minister Theresa May will ask MPs to give her more time to secure changes to the controversial part of her Brexit deal - the Northern Irish backstop.

    Mrs May is due to report back to MPs this week, after trying to persuade the EU to make last-minute changes.

    According to the BBC's Iain Watson, the PM will promise Parliament another vote on other Brexit options if a deal is still not ready by the end of February.

    Labour wants to hold Mrs May to her word and make sure the vote is held.

    The shadow Brexit secretary, Sir Keir Starmer, has said Labour has drafted an amendment which, if passed this week, would guarantee a vote by the end of the month.

    He accused the prime minister of "running down the clock" so that Parliament will only have a choice between her Brexit deal, and a no-deal exit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    that just sounds too reasonable, so not going to happen with Maybot

    5 years? more like 20 years to get out, possibly never
    Blimey Troy what does it tell you when even the Belgian laughs at your latest crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    But just to clarify: As it stands, May is boxed in by gods insisting there will be no further negotiations. And you suggest it is she that should 'compromise' by accepting the same deal she has already accepted and historically failed to pass through Parliament,
    The British parliament consists of many MP's who believe that you can leave a club, stop pay membership fee, but still get he club's privileges.
    They are delusional and even more so by believing that a better deal can be gotten.

    This an internal British problem and not something to compromise with EU about, the deal is done. Take it or leave it.
    The voices in my head are mostly kind, I also like the music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    The British parliament consists of many MP's who believe that you can leave a club, stop pay membership fee, but still get he club's privileges.
    They are delusional and even more so by believing that a better deal can be gotten.

    This an internal British problem and not something to compromise with EU about, the deal is done. Take it or leave it.
    What's your point in context to my post, asking why it should be May that compromises by accepting a deal she has already accepted?

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    ^ This an internal British problem and not something to compromise with EU about, the deal is done. Take it or leave it.

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    The English are acting like spoiled chavs in hollidays

    check in a 5 star hotel with member lounge privileges, use the facilities, and then try to re-negotiate the price of the room when they checkout and access to the member lounge privileges even though they are no longer an hotel guest

    delusional doesn't have begin to describe what they want, they are fucking crazy, and we should call security to vacate them from the premises

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    ^ This an internal British problem and not something to compromise with EU about, the deal is done. Take it or leave it.
    jabir is a bit slow understanding the point we make, and fails regularly to make any sensible point in his arguments

    maybe dyslexia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    May to make plea to MPs for time to change deal
    Only option she has left given the corner she painted herself in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    jabir is a bit slow understanding the point we make, and fails regularly to make any sensible point in his arguments

    maybe dyslexia?
    It's a common affliction amongst Brexiteers.

    It reminds me of the time the Nigel Farage party posted a flyer through the letterbox of a primary school teacher, who corrected the mistakes in red pen and returned it to them...the irony being they are always complaining about immigrants who don't take the time to learn proper English.

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    Meanwhile in other news: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-n...s-rights-deal/

    Its amazing what can be achieved when you by pass EU Institutions.

    Reciprocal citizens rights also agreed with Germany, Austria, France, Italy and Portugal.

    Its an interesting read for anyone except papillon, who clearly can’t read anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    The British parliament consists of many MP's who believe that you can leave a club, stop pay membership fee, but still get he club's privileges.
    They are delusional and even more so by believing that a better deal can be gotten.

    This an internal British problem and not something to compromise with EU about, the deal is done. Take it or leave it.
    The electorate already made that decision thank you. We will leave it, if it’s all the same to you.

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    And you believe these reciprocal assurances won't happen between the EU and the foggy isles?

    Deluded fool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Meanwhile in other news: https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-n...s-rights-deal/

    Its amazing what can be achieved when you by pass EU Institutions.
    Is it really possible to "achieve" the current status?

    I think you have to gain something new to use the word "achieve" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller View Post
    And you believe these reciprocal assurances won't happen between the EU and the foggy isles?

    Deluded fool!
    I realise that itís sunday, and youíre bored, but probably best for all concerned if you put that bottle of Korn down now.

    Its quite refreshing for me to add you to the fubar and butters list of scroll past post posts, in the certain knowledge that you are all metaphorically drunk on your own arrogance.
    Pity there is zero substance to those beliefs, but useful for all to see how inept you all are.

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