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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    No balls of course, but best thing May could do is call their bluff by unilaterally declaring there will be no hard border on the NI side of the border. Now the ball falls squarely to the EU, they can deal with that province of the empire as they please, and on the bright side they can also deal with the consequences of their stubborn and foolish insistence on a hard border that they themselves agree cannot and will not happen.
    No way to have an open border without being in the customs union. Deal with reality. Enjoy return of civil war in Northern Ireland. Or maybe the Ulster Unionists are prepared to join Ireland?

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    Theresa May has it all under control. We will be out of the EU at the end of March.

    Long Live St Theresa of Westminster and all those who sail in her.

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    Latest reports are Doris is going to ask for an extension of A50 this week. Can't believe anything that comes out of her mouth as been telling anyone who'd listen all weekend we will be out on March 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    The ECJ have already abrogated any legal responsibility for UK financials after Brexit.
    are you sure you read that right, old man? I very much doubt it, but again you interpret everything upside down, you being British and driving on the wrong side of the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    So it looks like we've gone from the easiest deal ever and prosperity to we hope to not run and food and medicine and we'll try to get the Queen out alive. A real success story!
    indeed, everything going bad is a success in lala land

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy View Post
    Latest reports are Doris is going to ask for an extension of A50 this week. Can't believe anything that comes out of her mouth as been telling anyone who'd listen all weekend we will be out on March 29.
    I think she is playing games with everyone, the dirty whore

    who knows what other lies she is telling to the EU leaders,

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    ^7575

    loopy: Food shortage so we'll all die of starvation and no meds anyway so might as well die while the Queen legs it?

    Go on, say it, you've been slurping at loonwatch, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    So it looks like we've gone from the easiest deal ever and prosperity to we hope to not run and food and medicine and we'll try to get the Queen out alive. A real success story!
    Do you mean project fear mark 2 or mark 6? lol 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    are you sure you read that right, old man? I very much doubt it, but again you interpret everything upside down, you being British and driving on the wrong side of the road
    Desperate much?

    Try reading what you choose to read, instead of the shite you are told to read by your totalitarian masters.

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    ECJ - UK not liable for EU fees and charges after leaving

    As has been widely reported in the media, the House of Lords reached two main legal conclusions in its March 2017 report on Brexit and the EU budget:
    1. “Article 50 TEU allows the UK to leave the EU without being liable for outstanding financial obligations under the EU budget and related financial instruments, unless a withdrawal agreement is concluded which resolves this issue.” (para. 135).
    2. “The jurisdiction of the CJEU over the UK would also come to an end when the EU Treaties ceased to have effect. Outstanding payments could not, therefore, be enforced against the UK in the CJEU.” (para. 133).

    The full document here. https://www.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.cam....membership.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    1. “Article 50 TEU allows the UK to leave the EU without being liable for outstanding financial obligations under the EU budget and related financial instruments, unless a withdrawal agreement is concluded which resolves this issue.” (para. 135).
    2. “The jurisdiction of the CJEU over the UK would also come to an end when the EU Treaties ceased to have effect. Outstanding payments could not, therefore, be enforced against the UK in the CJEU.” (para. 133).
    From the same document, regarding conclusions 1. & 2. shown above:
    This blog post shows that both conclusions of the House of Lords are likely erroneous. It argues first that the UK is liable in principle for a share of the EU’s budget commitments and pensions of EU officials.
    What the EU says:
    ....the UK owes around €60 billion as a result of its EU membership since 1973.

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    Even the Daily Heil thinks the "Blitz Spirit" was a bit shit in reality
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rime-wave.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    From the same document, regarding conclusions 1. & 2. shown above:


    What the EU says:
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    My understanding is that without a deal the UK is not legally obliged to pay anything beyond the 2020 budget and some pension. Same understanding with no deal that we are morally obliged to make a substantial payment which is yet to be determined.


    Whatever happens in March hopefully we can replace May soon after with not sure who, probably whoever wants the job. Not Corbyn though, he's the one keeping the Tories in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers View Post
    No way to have an open border without being in the customs union. Deal with reality. Enjoy return of civil war in Northern Ireland. Or maybe the Ulster Unionists are prepared to join Ireland?
    Eire should join Schengen, that'll get the UK twitching...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    This blog post shows that both conclusions of the House of Lords are likely erroneous. It argues first that the UK is liable in principle for a share of the EU’s budget commitments and pensions of EU officials.


    ....the UK owes around €60 billion as a result of its EU membership since 1973.


    Do you realise you're double face palming the content of the document that you linked?

    Or maybe you're double face palming yourself for posting a document that you thought said the UK didn't have to pay anything when it fact it was saying the opposite?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jabir View Post
    Whatever happens in March hopefully we can replace May soon after with not sure who, probably whoever wants the job. Not Corbyn though, he's the one keeping the Tories in power.
    I'm pretty sure it's the gullible, poorly educated Brexiteers who are keeping the Tories in power by voting Tory in the last election.

    You do know how general elections work right?

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    You do realise both Labour and Tory campaigned to implement Brexit in the last GE.

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    You do realise only the Tories/Maybot are involved in the shambles that are the Brexit negotiations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Do you realise you're double face palming the content of the document that you linked?

    Or maybe you're double face palming yourself for posting a document that you thought said the UK didn't have to pay anything when it fact it was saying the opposite?
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    ^^He'll clutch at any straw.

    A clusterfcuk sparked by Cameron and botched by May, but the losers of the last election are equally culpable?

    What a risible clown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    I'm pretty sure it's the gullible, poorly educated Brexiteers who are keeping the Tories in power by voting Tory in the last election.

    You do know how general elections work right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    From the same document, regarding conclusions 1. & 2. shown above:


    What the EU says:
    don't argue with pensioners, they can't read right or understand anything they read

    of course the UK is liable financially to financial commitments she made BEFORE she leave the EU

    crazy old man takes this as meaning NO DEAL means NO payments of PRIOR financial obligations

    then why did the UK had to negotiate the discount to 39b if it didn't have to pay anything MORALLY

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    Italy. Up shit creek without a paddle, all because .......


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...ndation-widget

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    don't argue with pensioners, they can't read right or understand anything they read

    of course the UK is liable financially to financial commitments she made BEFORE she leave the EU

    crazy old man takes this as meaning NO DEAL means NO payments of PRIOR financial obligations

    then why did the UK had to negotiate the discount to 39b if it didn't have to pay anything MORALLY
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