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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think it would be very foolhardy for the UK not to pay the Brexit bill.
    And there is no mandate for crashing out of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Companies like MW and Oddbins import the vast majority of their stock and have been paying for that stock with a shitty pound for nearly 3 years, add on the uncertainty of future: 'imports + value of the pound' and you have a recipe for disaster, most business models work from a 5-year plan, how on earth can any business make a 5 year plan with hard numbers in the current situation, never mind a business that relies top heavily on imports?

    Suggesting it's got nothing to do with Brexit is just plain wrong.
    It's got next to nothing to do with Brexit.

    Like all high street retailers, Oddbins can't compete with the discounting.

    They nearly failed in 2011 with debts of GBP30m.

    I'm afraid for once I am going to have to support tooty here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    And there is no mandate for crashing out of the EU.
    Cybille, don't forget your cunting coupon

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's got next to nothing to do with Brexit.

    I'm afraid for once I am going to have to support tooty here.
    The owner of Oddbins might know something about why his business failed... and his version of what happened corresponds with mine.

    The chain's owner, European Food Brokers, blamed economic uncertainty around Brexit and 'unsustainable' High Street conditions for the downfall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    They nearly failed in 2011 with debts of GBP30m.
    Citing something that happened 8 years ago as proof that Brexit played no part, just illustrates your total lack of clue as per usual.
    Last edited by foobar; 02-02-2019 at 03:32 PM.

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    Oddbins always seemed oddly expensive for shite bargain basement wine for people who really had no idea. A place where Moet is considered top shelf

    Still very much against Brexit

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    The owner of Oddbins might know something about why his business failed... and his version of what happened corresponds with mine..
    The owner of Oddbins, in fact any owner of a failed business will always look to excuses that defray attention from themselves.....He had a business model that worked in the 80s and didn't have the sense to see someone writing on his wall ....now can we please fkin move on.... please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    The owner of Oddbins, in fact any owner of a failed business will always look to excuses that defray attention from themselves.....
    So you don't agree with the owner of Oddbins that unsustainable High Street conditions let to the downfall of the business?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NamPikToot View Post
    ....now can we please fkin move on.... please.
    Have you considered just not replying my little snowflake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandaloopy View Post
    Oddbins always seemed oddly expensive for shite bargain basement wine for people who really had no idea. A place where Moet is considered top shelf

    Still very much against Brexit
    Oddbins were in business for 55 years so someone must have buying their products.

    The idea that Oddbins have just randomly gone out of business, all mere weeks before the UK could potentially hard Brexit + the shitty pound, when so many other UK businesses are going through Brexit driven upheaval and even the Oddbin's owner is saying Brexit is one of the major reasons why the business failed .....to then claim "It's got next to nothing to do with Brexit." is some next level buffoonery.

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    Mmmm a foobar enema....feel like a new person..

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    ^So you don't agree with the owner of Oddbins that unsustainable High Street conditions led to the downfall of the business?
    Last edited by foobar; 02-02-2019 at 05:23 PM.

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    S/he'll be back in a minute...just gotta post another painfully unamusing comment on the amusing pics thread first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    He'll be back in a minute...just gotta post another painfully unamusing comment on the amusing pics thread.

    Never away creepy. What's your plan for the weekend - another round of corrections and your boring diatribe ... you still seem a little raw from yesterday, with your fan club cheering you on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I think it would be very foolhardy for the UK not to pay the Brexit bill. I'm quite sure it will be a prerequisite for any future FTA and leaving without intention to pay will cost in payment and timescale.

    The money issue was never a reasonable argument. The annual payments were trivial compared to the benefits.
    I think the annual payments are about 8.9bn net, but that is not the point, unless the UK stays in the EU, which now seems highly unlikely.
    Im sure the UK would be happy to pay the 39bn, if it was to secure a fair deal for both sides. The EU negotiator, and the commission have only really said NO, to any proposal from UK. That is not negotiation. They need to realise that.

    You can bang on about the May WA, but that has been rejected by parliament twice already. Another NO from the EU next week, and there will be only one option left for both sides.

    Just chill out and let both sides resolve whatever is decided. Keeping no deal as an incentive was an excellent idea. Holding back on the 39bn is also a reasonable attempt to keep the EU honest and reasonable.

    If they want the current WA, simply remove or amend the backstop, and they get the deal they want. Say NO again, and they end up with nothing, and both sides have to play nicely to reach an agreement on the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Bloody hell. I spend a few days touring Asia, and come back to a 4 page bunfight.

    Turn your thoughts to the actual one off costs of Brexit.

    Whatever the outcome, there will be bills to pay. Just like moving house, you need to work out the cost to you of the items you have consumed, and set some wonga aside to pay outstanding bills. Just like leaving the EU, by whatever means that might be. Hard, soft, managed, deal or no deal.

    One way or another, it looks like the UK is leaving, and both sides have to honor whatever agreement is currently in place. In the same way that you would not dream of leaving your current house without paying utilities and other outstanding bills, if you want to retain your credit rating.

    The same deal applies to leaving the EU. Will it be 39bn, 50 bn or 100bn? UK Plc will have to cough up and negotiate the final sum. Both sides need to carry on trading with each other, so there will be give and take on both sides. Whatever the bill might be, UK will have to pay, and the EU will be obliged to be reasonable over both the amount, and the repayment period.

    Time to sit back and let the failed politicians on both sides, unscramble the mess they have made.

    jesus, what happened, did your lithuanian nurse gave you a wank after changing your diaper?

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    ^What is wrong with you switch, why you being all laid back and reasonable ..are you in love or something?
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    I fear there is far more wrong lurking in Maybot's deal than just the backstop.

    Also, UK's divorce settlement with the EU is not optional, that money is owed via legally binding contracts signed off by the UK and the EU will simply take legal action to retrieve the monies following a hard Brexit.

    How will a UK refusal to pay go down with UK's creditors not to mention how it will effect the UK's credit rating and any future new business partners ...not a good look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    jesus, what happened, did your lithuanian nurse gave you a wank after changing your diaper?
    Check this one, has post-blowjob glow written all over it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Bloody hell. I spend a few days touring Asia, and come back to a 4 page bunfight.

    Turn your thoughts to the actual one off costs of Brexit.

    Whatever the outcome, there will be bills to pay. Just like moving house, you need to work out the cost to you of the items you have consumed, and set some wonga aside to pay outstanding bills. Just like leaving the EU, by whatever means that might be. Hard, soft, managed, deal or no deal.

    One way or another, it looks like the UK is leaving, and both sides have to honor whatever agreement is currently in place. In the same way that you would not dream of leaving your current house without paying utilities and other outstanding bills, if you want to retain your credit rating.

    The same deal applies to leaving the EU. Will it be 39bn, 50 bn or 100bn? UK Plc will have to cough up and negotiate the final sum. Both sides need to carry on trading with each other, so there will be give and take on both sides. Whatever the bill might be, UK will have to pay, and the EU will be obliged to be reasonable over both the amount, and the repayment period.

    Time to sit back and let the failed politicians on both sides, unscramble the mess they have made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I think the annual payments are about 8.9bn net, but that is not the point, unless the UK stays in the EU, which now seems highly unlikely.
    Im sure the UK would be happy to pay the 39bn, if it was to secure a fair deal for both sides. The EU negotiator, and the commission have only really said NO, to any proposal from UK. That is not negotiation. They need to realise that.

    You can bang on about the May WA, but that has been rejected by parliament twice already. Another NO from the EU next week, and there will be only one option left for both sides.

    Just chill out and let both sides resolve whatever is decided. Keeping no deal as an incentive was an excellent idea. Holding back on the 39bn is also a reasonable attempt to keep the EU honest and reasonable.

    If they want the current WA, simply remove or amend the backstop, and they get the deal they want. Say NO again, and they end up with nothing, and both sides have to play nicely to reach an agreement on the future.
    cool, you are back in lala land

    the 39b bill default and no-deal is not an incentive of any kind to settle in a friendly and amicable way a manageable exit

    the problem is your political leaders don't know what they want, have no clue what an agreement should look like and are playing silly games with each other for their own personal benefits

    in short, you are doomed, your voted your future in the hands of incompetent fools

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    Yes...next

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    Quote Originally Posted by foobar View Post
    Check this one, has post-blowjob glow written all over it.
    she probably took him to the park in his wheelchair afterward

    amazing what a little bit of fresh air can do to someone angry with the world

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    There'll be an agreement in the end. The ERG have thrown in their last penny and will have to stop fighting after Feb 13. May will have to concede to the will of Parliament after that and Tory rebels will get freedom to vote on something the majority favour.

    We know what Parliament don't want, time to find what they do want. No-one is saying what that is yet, too unpopular...

    Curiouser and curiouser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    cool, you are back in lala land

    the 39b bill default and no-deal is not an incentive of any kind to settle in a friendly and amicable way a manageable exit

    the problem is your political leaders don't know what they want, have no clue what an agreement should look like and are playing silly games with each other for their own personal benefits

    in short, you are doomed, your voted your future in the hands of incompetent fools
    As there is no legal remit to pay the 39bn the UK could ignore on no deal Brexit. It was agreed early on as part of an agreed withdrawal that is clearly no longer happening.
    NO LEGAL CASE TO PAY UP WITHOUT A DEAL. GOT IT STUPID.

    In reality, the UK is legally required to pay a share for EU pensions to Brits entitled to them and some other legal instruments. Total is roughly 25bn. Perhaps that is where you are so confused.
    The rest you can be told to whistle for it and nothing you can do about it.

    As we are talking about an honourable country, the UK will probably use the extra as leverage post no deal. We are not Argentina.

    Crawl back to Algeria there a stupid boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    There'll be an agreement in the end. The ERG have thrown in their last penny and will have to stop fighting after Feb 13. May will have to concede to the will of Parliament after that and Tory rebels will get freedom to vote on something the majority favour.

    We know what Parliament don't want, time to find what they do want. No-one is saying what that is yet, too unpopular...

    Curiouser and curiouser...
    Meanwhile, back on earth .....

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    NO LEGAL CASE TO PAY UP WITHOUT A DEAL. GOT IT STUPID.
    You obviously do not understand the legality of it all, stupid

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