Thread: Is North Koreas time up..?

^He was talking about fake threats.

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-ot...errorism.t159/

^Was he?

In context...from my link above:

Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week's scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B'nai Brith.

A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important.

If Fatboy actually lobs a missile on any country then it is game on.

The world will join together and blow his shitty country away. Fat boys call.

The girls Guides are having a big cry because Trump is taking it up to Fatty after Fatty has decided to launch missiles over Japan.

Worst thing one can do is bow down to a persistent Bully Boy.

Get the crew activated and fuk him up but only after the bully has fired the first shot.

Obuma would be hiding under a rock and Fat arse Hillary would be having a big cry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

The chinkies are desperate to avoid having successful, liberal democracies on their doorstep.

Their desperation to keep Western values out of China shows that their backs are against the wall.

Having said that, I'd be quite happy for them to pile into NK and put in a regime of their choosing, and I suspect everyone else would be as well.

I'm sure the North Korean people would be happier living under Chinese rule than fatty's.

BEIJING (Reuters) - China’s attempts to reduce risks from its rapid buildup in debt are not working as quickly as expected and credit growth is still too fast, S&P Global Ratings said on Friday, a day after it downgraded the country’s sovereign credit rating.

S&P says downgraded China as credit growth still too fast | Reuters

China's economy looks to pulling back into the slow lane after a range of data has shown a broad loss of momentum in domestic demand

China looks to be slowing again as domestic economy runs out of puff - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

China's economy is finally showing signs of cooling. Economic expansion in the world's second-largest economy slowed as it posted slowest investment growth in nearly 18 years and retail sales and factory output missed expectations.
Economic Data Misses Expectations


China's industrial output grew 6.0% year over year in August compared with 6.4% in July, and below Reuters forecast of 6.6%. It is being said that China's efforts to tackle pollution might have had led to this slowdown, as it looks to close old inefficient mines that are contributing to the pollution problem being faced by the country.

China Economic Data Disappoints: ETFs in Focus - Nasdaq.com

China needs to maintain a certain pace of growth to keep it's population fed and tempers quelled... how often have we seen foreign conflicts used to distract a population facing economic stress?

Originally Posted by terry57

Get the crew activated and fuk him up but only after the bully has fired the first shot.

The only problem is deciding what constitutes the first shot, given China has said they will defend their ally if they are attacked unprovoked.

I would say firing ballistic missiles over Japan's islands, as they have already done twice, is the first shot and we have a green light.

Can't sit around sending tweets forever as the threat increases in terms of technological capability with each new missile test.

Evacuating Seoul first would be a massive exercise but probably worth it just to let fatboy know his military demolition is in the post.

Taking NK out first could also be tactically good for the coming military brinkmanship with China in the SCS too.

The idea of all the treats, hate speech, sanctions, military excercises, war planes flying around just outside NK air space and warships off the coast is to provoke him into firing the first shot so he can be blamed for whatever comes after.

He knows this and so far has resisted for he knows that no matter how much destruction he can cause to others should he start something his country will be wiped out as it was in the 1950's. He is also convinced that if he doesnt have a nuke and missile deterrent he will be attacked as he has seen other countries attacked.

Every new threat and military excercise only hardens his resolve and convinces him he is doing the right thing. The only way this can be resolved peacefully is for the US to back off and let others start dialog.

^^
NK is still in a state of war with the US, I dunno about Japan though... or what the terms of the ceasefire are. In terms of international law, the US seems to be on safe ground in launching an attack or in acting upon it's treaty obligations to defend Japan and South Korea; China, however, probably isn't, and it could open up China to all kinds of unwanted events if it got involved in anything other than a humanitarian capacity.
A lot of people in the left-wing media have no depth of understanding about the details or history of the situation, and seem quite deluded in thei cult-like rabid Trumpophobia.

The signed armistice established a “complete cessation of all hostilities in Korea by all armed force”that was to be enforced by the commanders of both sides. Essentially a complete cease-fire was put into force. The armistice is however only a cease-fire between military forces, rather than an agreement between governments

Paragraph 13(d) of the Armistice Agreement mandated that neither side introduce new weapons into Korea, other than piece-for-piece replacement of equipment.

North Korea has announced that it will no longer abide by the armistice at least 6 times, in the years 1994, 1996, 2003, 2006, 2009, and 2013

In August 2016, North Korea installed anti-personnel mines to prevent potential defectors of its front-line border guards around the "Bridge of No Return,” situated in the Joint Security Area (JSA).The UN Command has protested this move as it violates the Armistice agreement which specifically prohibits armed guards and anti-personnel mines.


In 2016, when North Korea proposed formal peace talks, the U.S. adjusted its position from a pre-condition that North Korea had taken "irreversible steps toward denuclearization", to the negotiations including curbing the nuclear program. The discussions did not take place. State Department spokesman said "[North Korea] periodically raise the idea and it never really gets far"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean...tice_Agreement

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

In terms of international law, the US seems to be on safe ground in launching an attack;

Who will care about an "international law" once the attack has been launched?
Name one case when the war was investigated as per "international law" after the number of previous wars.
(Where the war should be investigated, anyway - in Haag?)

Originally Posted by Looper

I would say firing ballistic missiles over Japan's islands, as they have already done twice, is the first shot and we have a green light.

Taking NK out first could also be tactically good for the coming military brinkmanship with China in the SCS too.

Oh shit no Loopy, i disagree.

Trump is only matching fatties rhetoric at the moment so its all piss and wind so far.

If Trump Attacks first the little snow flakes that despise Trump will have a stroke and forever hold it against him whether he Fukes up NK or not.

Let Fatty throw the first punch and then go hard and destroy him, the girls cannot blame Trump then.

Fatties kicking this shit off, not Trump.

Originally Posted by Klondyke

Who will care about an "international law" once the attack has been launched?

Exactly,

All bets off once fatty fires a big one.

Wondering whether the recent earthquake in Mexico wasn't manmade either?

Originally Posted by Cujo

By who?

By a madman...

On another hand: Recently I saw some document about fracking drilling in US. It was said currently a certain increase in number of small earthquakes is recorded - as they happen almost every day - in comparison with recent years. They said the real cause is not confirmed, it can be just a coincidence, however, it is something that should surely be closely observed.

Wondering whether the results would be openly publicized in case a relation is found.

The thing is this,

If Fat boy fires a Nuke of who ya gunna blame ???

Not fookin Trump surely. ??????

This is interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...y-at-his-peril

Originally Posted by terry57

Let Fatty throw the first punch and then go hard and destroy him, the girls cannot blame Trump then.

I hear ya Terry and an unambiguous provocation such as a live missile attack on a western territory or ally would be the ideal scenario to get the ball rolling if a war is to happen.

But I think we are going to end up in a bit of a pickle if we let fatty go on refining his missile capabilities indefinitely while we wait for this ideal scenario to materialise. There are no easy answers.

The ideal endgame would be the economic destruction of the regime which would be easily achievable in a short timeframe with a complete oil embargo but it seems our Russian and Chinese friends hearts are just not in it. They have their priorities and prefer the entertainment of watching the good ol US of A in a tight spot.

Originally Posted by terry57

If Fat boy fires a Nuke of who ya gunna blame ???

Who's to say someone else won't fire a nuke off and Fatty gets the blame.

What? You gonna tell me that kind of thing would never happen?

jus sayin...

Originally Posted by CaptainNemo

^^
NK is still in a state of war with the US, I dunno about Japan though... or what the terms of the ceasefire are. In terms of international law, the US seems to be on safe ground in launching an attack or in acting upon it's treaty obligations to defend Japan and South Korea; China, however, probably isn't, and it could open up China to all kinds of unwanted events if it got involved in anything other than a humanitarian capacity.
A lot of people in the left-wing media have no depth of understanding about the details or history of the situation, and seem quite deluded in thei cult-like rabid Trumpophobia.









https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean...tice_Agreement

Bloody right, the Left hate with a passion and once in their crosshair nothing the victim says or does can ever be right. Not that I agree with the build-up of hysteria though it does start to address a can that serial leaders have quietly kicked down the road, unfortunately so far that it's difficult if at all possible to address through cheque-book diplomacy which has consistently proven to be ineffective.

Pull the tooth or live in pain.

Originally Posted by SKkin

Who's to say someone else won't fire a nuke off and Fatty gets the blame.

What? You gonna tell me that kind of thing would never happen?

That's a lot of bolliks innit,

Jesus, it aint very hard for all of the world to track down who fired a fookin Nuclear missile off.

Originally Posted by Looper

But I think we are going to end up in a bit of a pickle if we let fatty go on refining his missile capabilities indefinitely while we wait for this ideal scenario to materialise.

NK will end up fully nuked up whatever happens,

The only way to stop that happening is for Fatty to fire of a nuke and then be fuked up by the rest of the world.

If they do not fire a nuke off then it's a given they will get stronger in the Military game.

It's all up to Fatty how he plays the game.

And one things for certain, NK will not be attacked as long as fatty just keeps threatening shit and does not act.

Trump is letting him know exactly what will happen if he pushes the button.

Quite fair enough that.

What happens when toddler spats go nuclear


Sunday

At a rally in Michigan, President Trump makes a controversial allegation about the North Korean leader's private life."Kim Jong Un kissed a girl," claims the President. "He totally kissed one. I saw him. They were holding hands. They were holding hands and he kissed her. I have it on very good authority that he goes round to her house and they play with her dollies and they have a tea party with her dollies and he holds her hand and he kisses her. I bet he wants to marry her. That is so gay. Kissing girls is so gay."

Monday

In a live address on North Korean state television, Kim Jong Un rejects any suggestion that he kissed a girl, and claims his sources have uncovered damaging intelligence about the US president.

"Donald Trump smells," announces the supreme leader. "He smells very bad. When he walks into a room, everyone holds their nose and says, 'Ugh, yuck, what's that smell? That smell is yucky.' And then they all look at Donald Trump and point at him and say: 'Ugh, it's you. You smell, Donald Trump.' And then Donald Trump cries and runs home to his mummy. He is very smelly."

Tuesday

In an exclusive interview on Fox News, President Trump denies that he is smelly, and questions the North Korean dictator's fitness for office.
"Kim is a girl's name," says the President. "It is totally a girl's name. It's a name you would give to a girl. Is he a girl? I think he's a girl. I think he's a big girl. I think he's a girl."

Wednesday

Everyone dies.



What happens when toddler spats go nuclear - NZ Herald

^

Well you gota remember Aunty that that peace is written by some Journo who makes money doing it.

Further more it's his or hers own personal opinion so it means shit.

Everyone has a different take on this stuff and fair enough to.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...war-on-country

Sorry I can't cut and paste the text.

^ Why? They do not understand the US diplomacy?

Gunna get serious very quick if Fatty goes through with his threat of shooting down US planes outside NK's air space. ??????

Fatty recons Trump has declared war.

Rocket man needs to be a real men and show the world how much of a pussy Trump is

Vive le Rocket Man,