Thread: 'Kate's Law' Passes House

Finally some common sense. If one is deported and the return to the US and are caught, they simply deport him/her again....and again....and again. Beyond stupid. Now there will be penalties - if the Senate does the right thing when it votes on this. Sadly, only 24 Democrats voted in favor of this law with the overwhelming majority voting against it. Dems are still pandering to illegals as a base, even though they (well most of them) don't vote.

As usual, notice the different perspective from both articles below:


HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

House passes Kate’s Law, as part of illegal immigrant crackdown
Published June 29, 2017 Fox News

Congress gets another chance to pass Kate's Law
House Republicans took action Thursday to crack down on illegal immigrants and the cities that shelter them.

One bill passed by the House would deny federal grants to sanctuary cities and another, Kate’s Law, would increase the penalties for deported aliens who try to return to the United States.

Kate's Law, which would increase the penalties for deported aliens who try to return to the United States and caught, passed with a vote of 257 to 157, with one Republican voting no and 24 Democrats voting yes.

Kate's Law is named for Kate Steinle, a San Francisco woman killed by an illegal immigrant who was in the U.S. despite multiple deportations. The two-year anniversary of her death is on Saturday.

President Trump called the bill's passage "good news" in a tweet, adding "House just passed #KatesLaw. Hopefully Senate will follow."

“He should not have been here, and she should not have died,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday, in a final push for Kate’s Law, an earlier version of which was blocked in the Senate last year.


SESSIONS TO CONGRESS: PASS KATE'S LAW


“Our job here is to make sure that those professionals have the tools that they need and the resources that they need to carry out their work and to protect our communities. That is what these measures are all about,” added Ryan.

The other bill, which would deny federal grants to sanctuary cities, passed with a vote of 228-195 with 3 Democrats voting yes and 7 Republicans voting no.

The brutal murder of Steinle catapulted the issue of illegal criminal aliens into the national spotlight. Alleged shooter Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez had been deported five times and had seven felony convictions.

On Wednesday, President Trump highlighted other cases during a White House meeting with more than a dozen families of people who had been victimized by illegal immigrants, including Jamiel Shaw Sr.

Shaw’s 17-year-old son Jamiel was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant in California in March 2008..

“He was living the dream," Shaw said during the meeting. "That was squashed out.”

The second measure, "No Sanctuary for Criminals Act," would cut federal grants to states and “sanctuary cities” that refuse to cooperate with law enforcement carrying out immigration enforcement activities.

“The word 'sanctuary' calls to mind someplace safe, but too often for families and victims affected by illegal immigrant crime, sanctuary cities are anything but safe,” Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly asserted in the pre-vote press conference.

“It is beyond my comprehension why federal state and local officials ... would actively discourage or outright prevent law enforcement agencies from upholding the laws of the United States,” he added.

While gaining support in the Senate for similar legislation will be a tough road, Trump called for Congress to act quickly.

Trump called on the House and the Senate to “to honor grieving American families” by approving a “package of truly key immigration enforcement bills” so that he could sign them into law.

“I promise you, it will be done quickly. You don't have to wait the mandatory period. It will be very quick,” promised Trump.

Earlier on Wednesday, Immigration and Customs Enforcement Director Thomas D. Homan and U.S. Attorney for Utah John W. Huber made their case for the bills during the White House press briefing.

Huber said 40 percent of Utah’s current felony caseload involves criminal alien prosecutions and the number is increasing.

The bills, Huber asserted, would “advance the ball for law enforcement in keeping our communities safe” and “would give officers and prosecutors more tools to protect the public.

Many immigration rights groups have characterized efforts to crack down on sanctuary cities as “anti-immigrant,” but Attorney General Jeff Sessions says it is not sound policy to allow sanctuary cities to flout federal immigration laws.

According to Homan, ICE already has arrested nearly 66,000 individuals this year that were either known or suspected to be in the country illegally. Of those arrested, 48,000 were convicted criminal aliens.

“The practices of these jurisdictions are not only contrary to sound policy; they’re contrary to the law enforcement cooperation that is carried out every day in our country and is essential to public safety,” Sessions wrote in a Fox News op-ed backing the bills.

House passes Kate?s Law, as part of illegal immigrant crackdown | Fox News



The bias in this NBC article and it's 5 years not minimum 10 in jail: And notice how illegals who are deported - and deportations happen for a reason -
are falsely labeled "immigrants."

POLITICS JUN 29 2017
House Passes ‘Kate’s Law,’ Votes to Defund Sanctuary Cities
by DARTUNORRO CLARK
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The House passed two bills Thursday to boost President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.

The bills — "Kate’s Law" and the "No Sanctuary for Criminals Act" — would up the penalties on undocumented immigrants who attempt to reenter the country illegally after being deported for crimes and slash funds from cities that protect them.

Kate's Law passed 257-167, largely along party lines, in the GOP-controlled House. Trump, who made immigration a key focus during the campaign and in his administration, celebrated its passage.

Under the legislation, an undocumented immigrant previously convicted of a crime who attempts to re-enter the country could face between 10 and 25 years in prison.

The legislation is named after Kathryn Steinle who was shot and killed in 2015 in San Francisco by Juan Francisco Lopez Sanchez, a repeat felon and undocumented immigrant from Mexico who had been deported several times.

"The legislation before us today is one born of a preventable tragedy," said Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Pa., who co-sponsored the bill. “Let this bill be her legacy. Let this bill result in Kate saving the lives of others.”

A Senate version of the bill failed to pass in 2016.

Many Democrats panned the legislation, calling it anti-immigrant and saying it would stoke fear.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., called the measure "callous and irrational."

Others said it could target legal immigrants.

"Yes, we must keep out the 'bad hombres,' but we must continue to welcome those who come to America to work hard and contribute," said Rep. Lou Correa, D-Calif., using a phrase that Trump had used. "This bill fails to make this critical and important distinction. Do not brand millions of immigrants as criminals when their only crime is searching for the American dream."

House Passes 'Kate's Law,' Votes to Defund Sanctuary Cities - NBC News

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Dems are still pandering to illegals as a base, even though they (well most of them) don't vote.

Kate's Law sounds reasonable to me. This would have been a good opportunity for the Dems to show some maturity and show the Reps that voting "nay" simply along party lines is stupid, ingenuous, and counter-productive.

Extraordinary notion of jurisprudence making everyone in a category responsible for the actions of one.
And yet thousands of indigenous US citizens murder their fellow nationals with tiresome regularity by shooting them to death with weapons no other civilised state on the entire planet would allow into their possession.

The US is really quite crude and frankly I am now of the belief that that the Russians are more sophisticated as a people.

It may be reasonable but it's also a complete red-herring and taken as a totality with the rest of this Admin's anti-immigrant stance it's just another dog-whistle. The fact is legal immigrants proportionally commit less crime than the 'natives' and there's not evidence to suggest that illegals commit more either, but both groups will be targeted.

Trump's trying to make it a public safety issue when there are far more pressing issues of public safety. Where are the John, Jason, Carol, Margaret, James, Sally etc. etc. et. al. laws for all the kids shot and killed for instance. This is all about scaring people into believing that 'others' that look and sound different to them are coming to rape and murder them in their beds.

A rather circuitous way of re-stating a long held American view that only white, anglo- saxon protestants can truly mould society to protect it from the depredations of nigras, wops, spics, dagoes, slopes and lazy good-fer-nuthin' injuns.

Septics are a crude, stupid immigrant race of peoples still trying to rise above the inescapable fact that in human development terms, their country is still at the pre-adolescent stage.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

A rather circuitous way of re-stating a long held American view that only white, anglo- saxon protestants can truly mould society to protect it from the depredations of nigras, wops, spics, dagoes, slopes and lazy good-fer-nuthin' injuns.

Septics are a crude, stupid immigrant race of peoples still trying to rise above the inescapable fact that in human development terms, their country is still at the pre-adolescent stage.

Completely wrong.

This is not about immigrants nor immigration.

It's about ILLegals being deported that return again.

Obama's nickname was the "deportation President." He deported 2.5 million, the most of any President.

No one was complaining then.

People are deported for a reason.

If a US citizen goes to Mexica without a visa they go to jail.

Citizens of Mexico can be deported many times, even after committing crimes and return only to be deported again without consequences.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

This is not about immigrants nor immigration.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

The House passed two bills Thursday to boost President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

This is not about immigrants nor immigration.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

The House passed two bills Thursday to boost President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.

It's about not allowing ILLegals that are deported to return has nothing to do with immigration.

Don't buy into the headlines. It's all a lie.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

The about not allowing ILLegals that are deported to return has nothing to do with immigration.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

House Republicans took action Thursday to crack down on illegal immigrants and the cities that shelter them.

Theare are two issues:

1. not allowing those ILLegals to deported to return,

and 2. acting against sanctuary cities.

Both are NOT related to immigration.

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Both are NOT related to immigration.

What a fooking moron.

He must've gone to one of those schools where the definition of "immigration" was taught as:

im·mi·gra·tion
ˌiməˈɡrāSH(ə)n/
noun

Watch out! Dark-skinned people are coming to take your jobs!!

You guys finding faults with a law(s) like this is always good for a chuckle.

You trying to convince yourself that you're actually chuckling in place of any actual logical and reasoned debate, merely interjecting with a throwaway one-liner indicating complete and utter acceptance and acquiescence to something you probably don't even fully comprehend...



...that's amusing.

At least you're using your big boy words though, couldn't find a meme?

Originally Posted by bsnub

Originally Posted by Cold Pizza

Both are NOT related to immigration.

What a fooking moron.

Explain why, "Ant Jr.."

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You trying to convince yourself that you're actually chuckling in place of any actual logical and reasoned debate, merely interjecting with a throwaway one-liner indicating complete and utter acceptance and acquiescence to something you probably don't even fully comprehend...



...that's amusing.

At least you're using your big boy words though, couldn't find a meme?

Ant,

There is no way you could have been a lawyer as you claim.

You don't post opinions, you just put people down.

You're just barely more useful than Cyrille.

There is no way to explain to you why you're a fooking moron in terms simple enough for you to be able to understand.

Because you're a fooking moron.

The headline made me think it was going to be about a domestic law, like women being able to check up on a potential dates criminal record before she meets him.

Originally Posted by Slick

You guys finding faults with a law(s) like this is always good for a chuckle.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You trying to convince yourself that you're actually chuckling in place of any actual logical and reasoned debate, merely interjecting with a throwaway one-liner indicating complete and utter acceptance and acquiescence to something you probably don't even fully comprehend...



...that's amusing.

At least you're using your big boy words though, couldn't find a meme?

Just another stupid populist law.

You know how fucked up it is the Cato Institute are calling it a waste of money. They're not exactly renowned for their left wing views.

The House of Representatives will vote on a bill this week titled “Kate’s Law” (H.R. 3004). While it is nominally an “immigration” bill, its principal aim relates to criminal justice—namely, an increase in the maximum sentences for immigrants who reenter the country illegally after a deportation. The bill is a waste of federal resources. It would likely balloon America’s population of nonviolent prisoners, while not protecting Americans against serious criminals.

https://www.cato.org/blog/kates-law-...eral-resources

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

You trying to convince yourself that you're actually chuckling in place of any actual logical and reasoned debate, merely interjecting with a throwaway one-liner indicating complete and utter acceptance and acquiescence to something you probably don't even fully comprehend...



...that's amusing.

At least you're using your big boy words though, couldn't find a meme?