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    come on, everyone loves Putin, the world needs him for peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    I'm sure he, as the President and the leader of the largest political party, has some intelligent, considered input.

    One wonders how other "democratic" governments decide how to create/amend the counties laws.
    Do you really wonder?

    Because in most democracies, the leader does not pick the legislators nor the judiciary.

    So they don't get to come up with their own laws that protect their own interests.

    Nah, you must be trolling, even you're not that fucking Klondyke dumb.

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    ^^

    Sure 'arry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ Why don't you start a new thread? It is interesting but in the wrong place.
    Why? It's about Volgograd (Stalingrad). It's all connected. However, I agree with you, it's not quite in line with what you'd like to see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klondyke View Post
    Why? It's about Volgograd (Stalingrad). It's all connected. However, I agree with you, it's not quite in line with what you'd like to see...
    It's not connected at all apart from the name is the same, you retard.

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    Russian opposition leader Navalny's website blocked before election

    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian authorities blocked opposition leader Alexei Navalny’s website on Thursday a month before a presidential election, a move Navalny said was designed to blunt his campaign for a boycott of what he says is a sham vote.

    Roskomnadzor, Russia’s communications regulator, said it had ordered telecoms operators to block parts of Navalny’s site because he had ignored a request to remove material covered in an injunction obtained by Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska.


    Deripaska said his claim was related to the dissemination of false allegations about him based on leaked private information and was designed to protect his right to privacy.


    “(It) has nothing to do with any political struggle between Mr Navalny and his political opponents,” Deripaska said in a statement.


    “Mr Navalny is not a party to the pending case as he was not the primary source of the leaked private information.”


    Navalny, who has been barred from running in the March 18 presidential election which incumbent Vladimir Putin is forecast to win, accused the authorities of acting to hinder his campaign aimed at getting people to boycott the election.


    They had also wanted to help Deripaska remove information about himself from the public domain, Navalny said, saying he had no intention of voluntarily taking down the material.


    The material is part of an investigation Navalny conducted, which alleged that Deripaska met Sergei Prikhodko, Russia’s deputy prime minister, on a yacht belonging to the businessman off the coast of Norway in 2016.


    Navalny questioned the ethics of the meeting in which he said the two men discussed U.S.-Russian relations, and he posted what purported to be photographs of the encounter taken from the social media account of a young woman who was also on the boat.


    He also issued a YouTube video to accompany his investigation that has been watched over 5 million times.



    Roskomnadzor, Russia’s communications regulator, said Instagram had complied with a request to take down related material and that it was waiting for Google to delete Navalny’s YouTube video.


    Deripaska, in a statement last week, accused Navalny and others of spreading lies that he had allegedly committed unlawful actions and obtained an injunction from a court in southern Russia requiring media outlets to stop disseminating the disputed content.


    Navalny’s website was inaccessible inside Russia for much of the day, though a Navalny ally, Leonid Volkov, said on social media later on Thursday that it was available again via certain Internet providers.


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN1FZ16Z

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    ^ Instagram has also blocked some of his posts, at the request of Russian authorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    He also issued a YouTube video to accompany his investigation that has been watched over 5 million times.
    His video is very interesting, I'll give him that. But I still think he's a front-man for "western" interests.

    Of course I really don't think Putin is all about defending Mother Russia and the Russian people either.

    Seems like two(or possibly more) competing gangs fighting for control of Russia's resources...

    In the 1990s, free market capitalism was imposed on Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. As corporations like British Petroleum and HSBC bank enriched themselves, Russia’s people suffered untold horrors. With economist Jeffrey Sachs at the helm, the rate of unemployment was sometimes well above 20%. Canadian journalist Naomi Klein describes the conditions of the era in her book “The Shock Doctrine.” 80% of the country’s farms went bankrupt between 1991 and 1998. 74 million people lived in poverty, with 37 million in “poverty described as desperate.” Drug addiction and suicide rates skyrocketed.

    Things only changed when a new government in Russia stopped allowing Wall Street and London to use the country as a playground. Putin dramatically ended Yeltsin’s neoliberal reforms and enacted a policy of turning Gazprom and Rosneft, the state energy corporations, into National Champions. Revenue from the export of oil and natural gas was used to subsidize and restart the Russian economy.

    The ultimate result was a swift stabilization of the country, with wages rising and industrial output returning to pre-1991 levels. Crooked hedge-fund managers and tax dodgers like Bill Browder were forced to flee the country, along with any wealthy Russians who refused to play ball and help restore the country.
    Putin may have had a hand in all that, but are the Russian people the true beneficiaries of Putin's policies? Why is Putin so close to this (((oligarch))) who resides in London? Is it "The City" and it's errand boy Abramovich who's calling Putin's tune? Now it's deceptively made to appear that Putin gives the orders to Abramovich...but I don't buy that scenario.

    Now which gang is it that's calling Navalny's tune? Or is it just another case of false opposition muddying the water?
    Last edited by SKkin; 16-02-2018 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    His video is very interesting, I'll give him that. But I still think he's a front-man for "western" interests.

    Of course I really don't think Putin is all about defending Mother Russia and the Russian people either.
    "But I'll post this blatant pro-Putin fairy tale with no link anyway, and hope no-one realises".


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    ^Care to illustrate what the post suggest is untrue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^Care to illustrate what the post suggest is untrue?
    I suggest you read the whole fucking fairytale, not the edited version.

    Then again, being a putin brown noser, you'll swallow every word.

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    Which post are you referring to when you say "the edited version", a'rry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Which post are you referring to when you say "the edited version", a'rry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I suggest you read the whole fucking fairytale, not the edited version.

    Then again, being a putin brown noser, you'll swallow every word.
    oh the irony, harry darling

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    "But I'll post this blatant pro-Putin fairy tale with no link anyway, and hope no-one realises".
    Well of course it's from my whackjob files 'arry...here's your link

    https://journal-neo.org/2017/12/24/a...l-lng-project/

    But what did I ask immediately after that quote I used Harry? oh this: . . ."but are the Russian people the true beneficiaries of Putin's policies? Why is Putin so close to this (((oligarch))) who resides in London? Is it "The City" and it's errand boy Abramovich who's calling Putin's tune?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Well of course it's from my whackjob files 'arry...here's your link

    https://journal-neo.org/2017/12/24/a...l-lng-project/

    But what did I ask immediately after that quote I used Harry? oh this: . . ."but are the Russian people the true beneficiaries of Putin's policies? Why is Putin so close to this (((oligarch))) who resides in London? Is it "The City" and it's errand boy Abramovich who's calling Putin's tune?"

    That's just a load of irrelevant waffle. No point in debating pro-Putin opinion pieces, it's mostly nonsense. The gist of that article is that Putin is a hero who saved Russia, when in fact he's spent most of his career raping it and destroying any semblance of a free press and democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's just a load of irrelevant waffle. No point in debating pro-Putin opinion pieces, it's mostly nonsense. The gist of that article is that Putin is a hero who saved Russia, when in fact he's spent most of his career raping it and destroying any semblance of a free press and democracy.
    That has been going on for centuries before The LORD was a twinkle in his daddies eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    That has been going on for centuries before The LORD was a twinkle in his daddies eye.
    Correct. All he's done is consolidated the power of the politburo into his own hands.

    I do believe you're finally starting to get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Correct. All he's done is consolidated the power of the politburo into his own hands.

    I do believe you're finally starting to get it.
    One can see the countries that their "leaders" have improved their citizens lot. Equally one can see which countries slide into oblivion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    One can see the countries that their "leaders" have improved their citizens lot. Equally one can see which countries slide into oblivion.
    I think Russians 'lot' would be greatly improved if they had a free press, the right to vote for who they want, and most importantly the return of the billions of dollars Putin has allowed his cronies to steal and park in the Cayman Islands/BVI/Panama/Swiss banks from which they pay their tithes to his own personal "savings account".

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's just a load of irrelevant waffle. No point in debating pro-Putin opinion pieces, it's mostly nonsense
    To me, speaking as a lowly US subject, this part of that "waffle" rings very true:

    Across the United States of America, schools are closing, factories have shut their doors, and once prosperous neighborhoods are dotted with foreclosed homes. The younger generation has a much lower standard of living than its parents. Household debt is at record levels, while wages continue to decrease. The highways, railroads and water systems of the United States are in decay.

    In the analysis of this writer, the boom in Eurasia, as well as the declining state of western world, is due to a simple reality. In the western countries, it is corporations and capitalists that have all the power, and control the government, using it to protect their profits. Society crumbles as a small elite, without any real loyalties, enriches itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    To me, speaking as a lowly US subject, this part of that "waffle" rings very true:
    The first paragraph, yes.

    The second paragraph is utter fucking nonsense.

    "Boom in Eurasia"?

    One of the key factors in the decline of the West is that all the manufacturing is being done in Asian shitholes for 50 cents a fucking day.

    Boom for who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Boom for who?
    Most likely the same as:

    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Society crumbles as a small elite, without any real loyalties, enriches itself.
    Maybe even the same small elite too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Most likely the same as:



    Maybe even the same small elite too.

    Those in power line their own pockets. That seems to be a given whether in democracy, oligarchy or dictatorship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The first paragraph, yes.

    The second paragraph is utter fucking nonsense.

    "Boom in Eurasia"?

    One of the key factors in the decline of the West is that all the manufacturing is being done in Asian shitholes for 50 cents a fucking day.

    Boom for who?
    One could suggest those living in Asian shitholes who were earning 10 cents a day last year, would consider they are living through a booming time.

    Those who have lived the life of Riley off the backs of the Asians living in shitholes will of course find it very hard to adjust to the 50 cents a day lifestyle.
    Last edited by OhOh; 18-02-2018 at 11:31 PM.
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