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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    trump's transparency.....the thread's about trump and Russian interference....pay attention
    Trump is concerned with spies and the double face of the Pentagon, it's a security issue, not transparency

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    yes, Hillary was a puppet, we all know that

    Trump is a master manipulator, and like all manipulators, he can be easily manipulated by bigger manipulators like Putin

    that said, Putin is working for the good cause, while the US is not, and Trump is trying to correct that in his own way

    the real monster in this story is the Pentagon, they are the real puppet master, but they are having a hard time with Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Trump is a master manipulator,
    He's a master at nothing, not even pussy-grabbing.
    You're confusing "manipulator" with selfish, bullish, stubborn narcissist brute who will have a tantrum every time he doesn't get what he wants. Scaring subordinates and sycophants to do what he wants is not manipulating, it's coercing.

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    This is interesting.
    Is Trump really a Russian asset?


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    Silly Americans seeing Russians everywhere, like in the 60s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Trump is trying to correct that in his own way

    ffs...put the pipe down. trump's only taken care of his own interests since he's been in office, he has no clue about correcting anything, especially anything involving national security

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    the Pentagon needs the distraction so they are not being disturbed in their agenda

    and the general population is falling for it, but again the general population is made 99% of stupid people, so it's all good

    until Trump came along and competing and being disruptive on the stupid people market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Silly Americans seeing Russians everywhere, like in the 60s
    Not everywhere, just all around Trump. Are you trying to say there are no Russians involved?



    There are no detailed records of five personal meetings President Donald Trump has had with Russian President Vladimir Putin, The Washington Post reported Saturday, citing US officials.

    Trump has gone to what the Post described as "extraordinary lengths" to keep the specifics of his conversations with his Russian counterpart under wraps.
    Current and former US officials told the paper that Trump's efforts include confiscating the notes from his interpreter and not allowing them to discuss the details of the meetings with other officials in his administration.



    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/polit...rds/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Not everywhere, just all around Trump. Are you trying to say there are no Russians involved?
    Oh it's Buttplug's stupid trolling again, ignore it.

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    It's got to be incredibly unusual that trump as met Putin so many times privately, where there's literally no record of what they discussed.

    What is trump hiding and why?

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    ^ the post article says that he took the notes from the interpreter and told her not to reveal anything to anyone in his administration.


    i know i've posted this before, but.....republicans are going to have to cut bait soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the post article says that he took the notes from the interpreter and told her not to reveal anything to anyone in his administration.
    Hopefully the interpreter was smart enough to immediately recreate them as best as could be done, to cover their ass.

    I can't wait to hear the question during the impeachment trial.....

    Mr. President, why did you insist repeatedly on meeting Putin alone? Why is there no documentation of what was discussed between the two of you?
    "I was a good student. I comprehend very well, OK, better than I think almost anybody," - President Trump comparing his legal knowledge to a Federal judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    It's got to be incredibly unusual that trump as met Putin so many times privately, where there's literally no record of what they discussed.

    What is trump hiding and why?
    If that's not collusion I don't know what is.

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    But that interpreter can be subpoena'd.....


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    I wonder when CNN and Politico are going to start their "If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck and if it sounds like a duck...." sort of reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    But that interpreter can be subpoena'd.....

    WaPo was reporting that Tillerson was in a couple of meetings between trump and Putin......he's not talking though

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    the interpreter can be subpoenaed, but the white house would claim executive privilege and not allow him/her to testify.

    and it's a fair position to take, IMO ....the president has to be able to expect confidentiality, because foreign leaders won't speak openly with the president if they think that what they said in private will be made public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the interpreter can be subpoenaed, but the white house would claim executive privilege and not allow him/her to testify.

    and it's a fair position to take, IMO ....the president has to be able to expect confidentiality, because foreign leaders won't speak openly with the president if they think that what they said in private will be made public.

    Who said they have to be made public?

    That's for SCOTUS to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    That's for SCOTUS to decide.
    Wouldn't be cool if Putin put out full transcripts of the meetings in order to prove he's the "good" guy in all of this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Who said they have to be made public?

    That's for SCOTUS to decide.
    if trump's interpreter is subpoenaed and compelled to testify, then what was thought to be a private conversation no longer is.

    and if the precedent is set that a president's interpreter can be forced to testify, then other world leaders won't speak openly with future US presidents.

    if ever there was a situation when claiming 'executive privilege' was warranted, this would be it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    Mr. President, why did you insist repeatedly on meeting Putin alone? Why is there no documentation of what was discussed between the two of you?
    "National Security". Not so unusual. There are still so many undisclosed documents - or no documents - of events more than 40 years ago...
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    jesus, you guys should write Tom Glancy novels

    complete loons, better than 911

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    There is always an explanation for bad results of the incumbent govt: "our country is run by wrong party".

    Now, they have much stronger argument: "our country is run not only by wrong party but also by Russians".

    So, the more urgent reason, to change the party and the president as well...

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