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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    revealed the content of discussions between Lanny Davis and little Bob Mueller?
    There haven't been any as of yet. Good god you are ill informed.

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    The notion that 45 is clever and smart is really a laugh. He is destined to lose the war because he has chosen to make enemies and start wars on way to many fronts with powerful adversaries. The press, the intel community and law enforcement being the big three. Now adding many of his own former employees and former staff members to a growing list of enemies. Expect continued daily chaos at the White house as more and more disclosures of Trump's total distain for the rule of law and his culpability in breaking these laws. Only a matter of time before Trump is well and truely done.

    Trump should have followed this Chinese guy's sage advice. "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight".
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    David Pecker, Chief of National Enquirer’s Publisher, Is Said to Get Immunity

    David Pecker, Chief of National Enquirer’s Publisher, Is Said to Get Immunity in Trump Inquiry


    Federal prosecutors reached an immunity deal with the tabloid executive David J. Pecker, a key witness in their monthslong investigation into payments during the 2016 campaign to two women who said they had affairs with Donald J. Trump, according to two people familiar with the investigation.

    Mr. Pecker is the chairman of American Media Inc., the nation’s biggest tabloid news publisher, which was involved in the payments, which prosecutors have identified as illegal contributions made in violation of campaign finance law.

    As prosecutors in New York built a case against Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s longtime lawyer, that resulted in a guilty plea on Tuesday, Mr. Pecker emerged as an important figure. The investigation appears to be continuing, and as a longtime friend and ally of Mr. Trump, Mr. Pecker could have additional information valuable to the prosecutors.

    In pleading guilty to campaign finance violations, Mr. Cohen said Mr. Trump directed him to arrange the hush money payments to protect Mr. Trump from embarrassing stories during the campaign. The cooperation of Mr. Pecker is another potential blow to the president from a former loyalist.


    It was unclear on Thursday whether prosecutors had granted Mr. Pecker immunity for his involvement in the illegal campaign contributions, or simply agreed not to prosecute him based on the information he provided. One of the people briefed on the matter cautioned that Mr. Pecker could still face scrutiny. The agreement was disclosed on Thursday by The Hive, a Vanity Fair site.

    Court documents included detailed descriptions of Mr. Cohen’s interactions with A.M.I. as the hush money payments to the women — a pornographic film star and a former Playboy model — were arranged.

    It was unclear where prosecutors might be taking their investigation. Court papers said that several other people — in Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign and executives at the Trump Organization — were involved or knew of the illegal payments. Mr. Cohen, under oath in court, said Mr. Trump directed him to make the payments.

    Mr. Pecker has been close to Mr. Trump since the 1990s, and has served as a protector dating back to before the days when Mr. Trump was the host of his reality show, “The Apprentice.” After Mr. Trump became president, he rewarded Mr. Pecker’s loyalty with a White House dinner to which the media executive brought a guest with important ties to the royals in Saudi Arabia. At the time, Mr. Pecker was pursuing business there while also hunting for financing for acquisitions, The New York Times reported in March.

    The prosecutors’ agreement with Mr. Pecker adds another twist to a highly unusual case implicating the president. It means that a company that operates as a news organization is cooperating with federal authorities in an investigation that involves its work with a campaign.

    Federal prosecutors determined that in American Media’s work with Mr. Cohen — and for Mr. Trump’s candidacy, according to Mr. Cohen — the company operated in more of a supportive political function for Mr. Trump, The Times reported in July.

    And when the authorities subpoenaed the company in April, its executives decided against fighting it, agreeing to cooperate where warranted, and where they deemed officials were not violating First Amendment rights.

    The company’s cooperation has provided prosecutors with a second line of access to communications about the effort to protect Mr. Trump’s secrets involving women during the campaign, on top of the information provided by Mr. Cohen.

    Though several people familiar with American Media’s operations have said that the company keeps a strict records policy that ensures that emails are deleted regularly, it is not clear that the same held for encrypted communications or recordings. Dylan Howard, the company’s chief content officer, who is also said to be cooperating, was known to have a recording device in his office, according to people familiar with his operations. American Media would not comment.

    In court documents filed on Tuesday, federal prosecutors cited “encrypted” communications among Mr. Pecker, Mr. Howard and Mr. Cohen regarding the payoff to Stephanie Clifford, the pornographic film actress known as Stormy Daniels, who claimed to have had a brief affair with Mr. Trump.

    Among the records prosecutors subpoenaed last spring were communications between Mr. Pecker and Mr. Howard. According to the court documents made public this week, Mr. Pecker and Mr. Howard had been in touch with Mr. Cohen about both Karen McDougal, the former Playboy model who said she had a 10-month affair with Mr. Trump that began in 2006, and Ms. Clifford.


    In June 2016, when Ms. McDougal approached American Media, whose tabloids include The National Enquirer, about selling her story, both Mr. Pecker and Mr. Howard provided Mr. Cohen a heads-up, prosecutors said.

    A.M.I. negotiated American Media’s eventual purchase of the rights to Ms. McDougal’s story for $150,000 in August 2016 as part of a deal designed specifically to suppress information of the affair, according to Mr. Cohen. As the presidential election neared, Mr. Cohen sought to buy those rights from the American Media executives, prosecutors revealed, though the transaction was never completed.

    While Mr. Cohen went on to negotiate directly for Ms. Clifford’s silence about Mr. Trump, she, too, had initially considered selling her story to the media. Upon learning that, American Media alerted Mr. Cohen and then helped him arrange his own deal to pay Ms. Clifford $130,000 for her silence in the final days of the 2016 campaign.

    Mr. Pecker and Mr. Howard did not respond to requests for comment.

    Depending on how far the immunity agreement goes, it gives American Media some breathing room in an investigation that has posed a serious legal threat to the company, which filed for bankruptcy in 2010. This year, the company notably expanded its portfolio, buying up more than a dozen titles that included In Touch and Life & Style magazines.

    In bringing their charges against Mr. Cohen this week, prosecutors defined American Media’s payment to Ms. McDougal as an illegal, coordinated campaign expenditure. Election law prohibits corporations from spending money to influence elections in conjunction with candidates or their representatives.

    “He reminded us,” Robert S. Khuzami, the deputy United States attorney for the Southern District of New York, said of Mr. Cohen when he announced the charges in Manhattan this week, “that it is illegal for corporations to make contributions to candidates.”



    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/23/u...ity-trump.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    There haven't been any as of yet. Good god you are ill informed.
    I think there's some collusion going on, I could be wrong.
    There are a lot of things we don't know.
    That was the point made by Alan Dershowitz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The notion that 45 is clever and smart is really a laugh. He is destined to lose the war because he has chosen to make enemies and start wars on way to many fronts with powerful adversaries. The press, the intel community and law enforcement being the big three. Now adding many of his own former employees and former staff members to a growing list of enemies. Expect continued daily chaos at the White house as more and more disclosures of Trump's total distain for the rule of law and his culpability in breaking these laws. Only a matter of time before Trump is well and truely done.

    Trump should have followed this Chinese guy's sage advice. "He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight".
    Maybe 100% true.

    But on the other hand it is true that Trump has been underestimated at almost every step of the way.
    Maybe a pattern emerging, I don't know?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    The notion that 45 is clever and smart is really a laugh
    Indeed. And it goes against all evidence.

    The stable genius who had the best education is as dumb as a rock.

    The dumb person's idea of a smart one.

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    setting sun in trumpland

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Mueller is not involved in Cohen's prosecution you idiot.
    It will be interesting if he decides to sing to Mueller. His name comes up in the Steele dossier and I would like to hear what he says about the meetings he may have had in Prague with SVR agents.

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    post moved to the the trump thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    the Steele dossier and I would like to hear what he says about the meetings he may have had in Prague with SVR agents.
    TBH, I'd rather hear about the peepee episode Trump's screwed legally, I want to see him humiliated to the point where he won't even try to defend himself, just skulk away, a broken, divorced, pariah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    I'd rather hear about the peepee episode
    ...I imagine the importance of keeping the vids away from online streaming (so to speak) was discussed during his private meeting with Putin...one perceived anti-Russian misstep, however, and tRump's tiny peepee will become public property...courtesy of wikileaks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...I imagine the importance of keeping the vids away from public view was discussed during his private meeting with Putin...one perceived anti-Russian misstep, however, and tRump's tiny peepee will become public property...courtesy of wikileaks...
    I'm sure it's a lever held by Putin, however they wouldn't have discussed it through translators. More likely allusions and a means of discussing it were arranged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    More likely allusions and a means of discussing it were arranged.

    probably more along the lines of pictures in crayon and anatomically correct dolls

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    The Art of the (plea) Deal.
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    The Art of the (Plea) Deal. Well, Trump would surely approveAs Trump’s one-time allies enter pacts with Robert Mueller, the president may be hoping they haven’t read his 1987 book


    Given Donald Trump’s styling of himself as a master deal-maker, it must be quite galling for the president to see some of his former associates striking some rewarding deals of their own.
    Specifically, plea deals.


    Five people close to Trump are now said to have struck deals with Robert Mueller, to cooperate with the investigation into collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia.
    As Trump spent the last few decades exhorting The Art of the Deal, he could surely never have imagined his former associates would so willingly take his advice.


    Trump’s longtime fixer Michael Cohen, former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, tabloid executive and friend David Pecker and Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg have all picked up on the president’s zeal for the deal. Each has reportedly entered into pacts with Mueller.
    Trump has long praised dealmakers and berated those unable to make deals. He repeatedly criticized Barack Obama for not making deals. Unlike the five men above.




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    President Obama & Putin fail to reach deal on Syria - so what else is new? Obama is not a natural deal maker. Only makes bad deals!


    As well as wishing he hadn’t been so enthusiastic about advocating the striking of deals, Trump might be hoping his one-time allies didn’t read The Art of the Deal too closely.
    Because in his 1987 book, Trump offered a wealth of deal-making advice.


    “Leverage: don’t make deals without it,” Trump wrote, which sounds ominous for the president in the current climate.


    “MY STYLE of deal-making is quite simple and straightforward. I aim very high, and then I just keep pushing and pushing and pushing to get what I’m after,” Trump once advised, while Cohen, Pecker et al could do worse than follow this suggestion, also from The Art of the Deal.


    “The worst thing you can possibly do in a deal is seem desperate to make it. That makes the other guy smell blood, and then you’re dead.”
    Ironically at least one of Trump’s deal-making tips might offer hope to someone who did not make a deal: Paul Manafort, who this week was convicted of eight federal felonies. There have been reports that Trump is considering pardoning Manafort – if the pardon happens, then perhaps Trump’s words from March 2014 will have proved prescient.


    “Remember,” Trump tweeted.
    “Oftentimes the best deal you make is the deal you don’t make!”
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-the-plea-deal
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    ^
    That couldn't possible be real, it's not even a good joke.

    If anything it twangs deep desperation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    ^
    That couldn't possible be real, it's not even a good joke.

    If anything it twangs deep desperation.

    Yep, you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Yep, you're an idiot.
    Quit embarrassing yourself!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Trump’s longtime fixer Michael Cohen, former deputy campaign manager Rick Gates, former national security adviser Michael Flynn, tabloid executive and friend David Pecker and Trump Organization chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg have all picked up on the president’s zeal for the deal. Each has reportedly entered into pacts with Mueller.
    I wonder when Earl will wonder why these people, who figure so prominently in trump's world, are asking not to be prosecuted for crimes they may have committed in exchange for information about the crimes they've committed while associated with trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    I wonder when Earl will wonder why these people, who figure so prominently in trump's world, are asking not to be prosecuted for crimes they may have committed in exchange for information about the crimes they've committed while associated with trump.

    You don’t know that they were asked,more likely offered without asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    You don’t know that they were asked,more likely offered without asking.
    If they're offering info in exchange for not going to jail, it can't be good for trump would be my guess. How about you? What would be your guess for them getting immunity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    You don’t know that they were asked,more likely offered without asking.
    what?

    prosecutors don't want to give immunity to people who have committed crimes.....i'm sure they would argue that they hate doing it...but that it's a necessary tool that they use sparingly when they must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    If they're offering info in exchange for not going to jail, it can't be good for trump would be my guess. How about you? What would be your guess for them getting immunity?
    That seems like your problemo amigo; the 'guessing gamo'.

    There was no 'evidence' of a crime from the start.
    The Mueller investigation is a fishing expedition.
    Two years on and they've come up with nada.
    Just lots of 'wishful' thinking.

    And it just got a whole lot more wishful with the Cohen, Lanny Davis theater bait.

    Topper, ya ever think to wonder why Lanny Davis is Cohen's attorney?
    Do you wonder who's paying for Lanny Davis?
    Ya ever think you need to be asking better questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    There was no 'evidence' of a crime from the start.
    ...at least one jury of your peers disagrees...
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    The Mueller investigation is an increasingly successfully fishing expedition.
    ...ftfy...
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Two years on and they've come up with nada.
    ...the indicted might disagree...
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl View Post
    Just lots of 'wishful' thinking.
    ...plea deals suggest otherwise...

    ...reality bites, earl...*chomp*...

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    Manafort: Tax evasion/fraud convictions.
    Cohen: Tax evasion/fraud convictions.

    See any connections?
    Do you need someone to connect the dots for you?

    spells of impeachment for CNN/MSNBC...




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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    If they're offering info in exchange for not going to jail, it can't be good for trump would be my guess. How about you? What would be your guess for them getting immunity?

    Quite possibly offered immunity before asking seeking information they may or may not have.

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