Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Ant is similar to Cyrille in that he often won't give an opinion on a topic.

He does make longer posts than Cheryl but also jabs at poeple.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

343 posts and you still don’t know that?!

Reading comprehension issues?

ant: you have 343 posts on this thread and not one of them is you giving an opinion in the speakers' corner about whether you think the trump campaign conspired with the russians to defeat hillary.

OK, well I can’t help you with those issues I’m not a teacher or versed in techniques to assist reading comprehension difficulties.

Plus I just don’t really want to.

Thread: Mueller’s Russian Interference Investigation

Kudos, whoever that was.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

OK, well I can’t help you with those issues I’m not a teacher or versed in techniques to assist reading comprehension difficulties.

Plus I just don’t really want to.

you either:

1. truly believe that you've given an opinion on whether the trump campaign conspired with the russians to defeat hillary and something is wrong with your mind.

2. you just don't want to admit that you're a little wimp who's afraid to give an opinion that you'll have to defend in the speakers corner.

i'm guessing #2.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

trying to pin people down into making definitive statements on an ongoing investigation

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

whether the trump campaign conspired with the russians to defeat hillary

Thread: Mueller’s Russian Interference Investigation

Could you stay on topic please.

More news from this evening in the US.

Mueller levels new claim of bank fraud against Manafort


Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office has told a federal judge it has found evidence that Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, committed bank fraud not addressed by the indictment last October in which he was charged with money laundering and failure to register as a foreign agent.

As legal wrangling continues over a $10 million bail package for Manafort, prosecutors this week accused him of submitting false information to a bank in connection with one of his mortgages.

“The proposed package is deficient in the government’s view, in light of additional criminal conduct that we have learned since the Court’s initial bail determination,” prosecutors wrote in a court filing submitted on Tuesday and made public in a redacted form on Friday evening. “That criminal conduct includes a series of bank frauds and bank fraud conspiracies.”

MORE https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...sations-416509

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Could you stay on topic please.

anty panties you're hillarious even when youren't trying,


Ya enjoying that nothing burger with fanciful fiction?

Originally Posted by misskit

More news from this evening in the US.

Mueller levels new claim of bank fraud against Manafort


Special counsel Robert Mueller’s office has told a federal judge it has found evidence that Paul Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, committed bank fraud not addressed by the indictment last October in which he was charged with money laundering and failure to register as a foreign agent.

As legal wrangling continues over a $10 million bail package for Manafort, prosecutors this week accused him of submitting false information to a bank in connection with one of his mortgages.

“The proposed package is deficient in the government’s view, in light of additional criminal conduct that we have learned since the Court’s initial bail determination,” prosecutors wrote in a court filing submitted on Tuesday and made public in a redacted form on Friday evening. “That criminal conduct includes a series of bank frauds and bank fraud conspiracies.”

MORE https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...sations-416509

All of which is on appleal, and under further investigation of FBI partisan improprieties.

The FBI is in shambles, and not longer trustworthy. This is what the courts are going to find out.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

anty panties you're hillarious even when youren't trying,


Ya enjoying that nothing burger with fanciful fiction?

I can only assume from this amazing example of fuckwittery that Mr. Earl has literally everybody on ignore.

Only you Harry cheri

Morphing thread title to match morphing US establishment narrative?

Waaaah...those bad Russian trolls made me vote against Hillary...waaaah.

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/01...ts-not-russia/

What a farce...

Jill knows...

Reminder: the Russia hysteria was created after leaked DNC emails exposed collusion to sabotage Bernie Sanders & rig the "Democratic" primaries. The DNC claimed it was hacked by Russia, yet refused to let the FBI investigate its server. https://t.co/v12CltKy3H

— Dr. Jill Stein�� (@DrJillStein) December 20, 2017

Originally Posted by SKkin

Jill knows...

Reminder: the Russia hysteria was created after leaked DNC emails exposed collusion to sabotage Bernie Sanders & rig the "Democratic" primaries. The DNC claimed it was hacked by Russia, yet refused to let the FBI investigate its server. https://t.co/v12CltKy3H

— Dr. Jill Stein�� (@DrJillStein) December 20, 2017

Where did you get that one from? Fox News?

In his testimony in January on the cyber attacks, then-director of the FBI James Comey said the agency never got access to the machines themselves, but obtained access to the forensics from a review of the system performed by CrowdStrike, a third-party cybersecurity firm.
"We got the forensics from the pros that they hired which -- again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves, but this my folks tell me was an appropriate substitute," Comey said.
"The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers," Watson said. She added that the copy contains the same information as the physical server.

Did John Podesta deny CIA and FBI access to DNC server, as Donald Trump claims? | PolitiFact

Originally Posted by SKkin

Waaaah...those bad Russian trolls made me vote against Hillary...waaaah.

http://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/mueller-indictment-russia-florida-interference-416255

Originally Posted by SKkin

Jill knows...

Reminder: the Russia hysteria was created after leaked DNC emails exposed collusion to sabotage Bernie Sanders & rig the "Democratic" primaries. The DNC claimed it was hacked by Russia, yet refused to let the FBI investigate its server. https://t.co/v12CltKy3H

— Dr. Jill Stein�� (@DrJillStein) December 20, 2017

you have to wonder if the world is not upside down,

all those cowards hiding Hillary defeat by blaming the Russians, this is so fucking Orwellian, I don't know how can anyone can't look at this and don't laugh it out loud

If you are taking this Russian thing seriously, then you need to have your head checked up

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Where did you get that one from? Fox News?

No...I already posted the link...but here it is again:

https://disobedientmedia.com/2018/01...ts-not-russia/

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Did John Podesta deny CIA and FBI access to DNC server, as Donald Trump claims? | PolitiFact

Maybe you should take that up with Comey and The Hill:

Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers
Comey: DNC denied FBI's requests for access to hacked servers | TheHill

CrowdStrike you say...they seem legit.

Cybersecurity Firm That Attributed DNC Hacks to Russia May Have Fabricated Russia Hacking in Ukraine

The report sheds further skepticism on CrowdStrike’s findings and objectivity in their conclusions, which several cyber security experts and former CIA and NSA officials have cast doubt on, especially given that several media outlets reported in early January 2017 that the DNC never allowed the FBI to examine their servers themselves, rather the FBI relied on forensic data gathered by CrowdStrike.

The hyperlinks in that quote:

https://medium.com/@REEL_ICO_TALK/th...d-820960bbb02d

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...-hacking-story

Emails were leaked, not hacked - Baltimore Sun

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/1...acking-claims/

FBI never examined hacked DNC servers itself: report | TheHill

FBI Data Dump Shows Clinton is Criminal and Clueless | Observer

Originally Posted by raycarey

http://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/16/mueller-indictment-russia-florida-interference-416255

The Russians were doing all this to help Trump...allegedly...right?

So what's up with this?

Thousands attended protest organized by Russians on Facebook | TheHill

Sixteen thousand Facebook users said that they planned to attend a Trump protest on Nov. 12, 2016, organized by the Facebook page for BlackMattersUS, a Russian-linked group that sought to capitalize on racial tensions between black and white Americans. The event was shared with 61,000 users.

As many as 5,000 to 10,000 protesters actually convened at Manhattan's Union Square. They then marched to Trump Tower, according to media reports at the time. The BlackMattersUS-organized rally took advantage of outrage among groups on the left following President Trump’s victory on Nov. 8 to galvanize support for its event. The group’s protest was the fourth consecutive anti-Trump rally in New York following election night, and one of many across the country.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...ce=twitter.com


All this Russia this! Russia that! hysteria is such a load of shit...McCarthyism 2.0.

Originally Posted by misskit

So many of those links are not news reports but op-eds. World of difference there.

Who is doing the op-ed sometimes makes a difference too...

^^ Trump had already been elected. It would only cause more distrust of the election system to protest against him at that point. It ain't rocket science.

You're right, there's no collusion FRT.....

Mueller's court filing also details Russian efforts to organize pro-Trump rallies in Florida and says the Russians contacted three unnamed Trump campaign officials seeking assistance. The Russians also organized rallies in New York City, and also in Pennsylvania under the Facebook rubric of "Miners for Trump."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...igation-415667

So if the Russians are working with trump's campaign, what would you call collusion?

Originally Posted by CSFFan

So if the Russians are working with trump's campaign, what would you call collusion?

you didn't listen to rosenstein's press conference?

anyways, from your article, topper:

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...igation-415667

“Some defendants, posing as U.S. persons and without revealing their Russian association, communicated with unwitting individuals associated with the Trump Campaign and with other political activists to seek to coordinate political activities,” the indictment said.

^ The DNC and the libtard, inconsolable Hillarybot brigade are about to lose their big boogeyman; "the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming".

What a shame

Again from thatdisobedient media link I posted earlier...this summary:

In summary, the investigation of Russian collusion has amounted to a witch hunt in retaliation against those who threaten the oligarchic American status quo. It has amounted to a lackluster attempt to gaslight the public in hopes of preventing the realization that the power of their vote has effectively been stripped from them. Dissenters across the political spectrum, as well as those who provide evidence of the breakdown of American democracy, have been systematically punished for speaking out. Disobedient Media reported repeatedly on the increasingly overt censorship of independent voices over the last year.

Russiagate as a war on dissent: Amicus brief filed by Brennan, Clapper, McFaul, other national security state honchos seeks to define American journalists & activists who criticize the US/NATO line on Russia as subversive fifth columnists. https://t.co/LgOx42ZTQO
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) December 28, 2017

Originally Posted by SKkin

Who is doing the op-ed sometimes makes a difference too...

But most of the time, no. Opinions are like assholes and all that stuff. They aren't even your opinions.


I find it telling you are quite willing to believe Navalney is a Western stooge but don't believe Russians would be financing/supporting stooges of their own.