Thread: Mueller's Russian Interference investigation

Hey Trumptards ... why are you and your Supreme leader no longer talking about a "witch hunt" and "fake news" when referring to the Trump-Russian collusion, unless you think there is nothing in Monday's indictment and Papo's co-operation? We see you've come back to focus on Hillary. You know, "the uranium deal", the Russian Dossier", "emails" and even "pizza gate". Too funny. Even your right wing propaganda mills like Fox News and InfoWars are in melt-down mode right now. In fact, some of the "journalists" at Fox can't believe the propaganda peddled by their own outlet, which has become the media outlet for the Trump administration btw. See the link below for the open rebellion at FauxNews. But who would be surprised by what comes out of the mouth of rabid fascists like Hannity and Carlson?

https://www.alternet.org/media/fox-t...ussia-coverage



Make the Trump crime syndicate great again.

Originally Posted by raycarey

heard a very interesting piece of information today....

if manafort lied on his federal tax form (as the indictment alleges), he more than likely lied on his state tax form as well.....and trump can't pardon him on any state charges.

i'd wager manafort was thinking about that last night.

There's about as much chance of a pardon for anyone convicted as a result of Mueller's investigations as there is of Mueller being fired...for which there is about as much chance as a snowball's survival in hell.
It just won't happen.

If you still need definitive proof that fox news is right wing propaganda. It is simply a mouthpiece of the WH. Watch this breakdown of the coverage of Robert Meuller;

Originally Posted by Maanaam

It just won't happen.

You can't rule anything out. Trump is basically retarded and responds with emotions. As wound up as he has been since the arrests he is capable of doing anything that you and I would consider irrational or stupid.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I think his advisers, both lawyers and aides, will be in frantic overdrive to stop him.

of course they'll try to stop him, but will they be able to?

if mueller gets too close to his shady business dealings, his income taxes or jared & ivanka, the IMO all bets are off.

^ Read above what I just edited in: Trump's blaming Jared.

Ivanka's gonna have to choose sides.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Ivanka's gonna have to choose sides.

I can't imagine it will come to that. Far, far too much controversy and embarrassment because she'd have to stick with Jared and 45 couldn't countenance the humiliation. More likely reassignments with barely plausible reasons. Health or somesuch. And that's also if Jared gets indicted.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

I can't imagine it will come to that. Far, far too much controversy and embarrassment because she'd have to stick with Jared and 45 couldn't countenance the humiliation. More likely reassignments with barely plausible reasons. Health or somesuch. And that's also if Jared gets indicted.

Jared is skint.

She'll go for the inheritance, i.e. "Ivanka Tower", etc.

“You Can’t Go Any Lower”: Inside the West Wing, Trump Is Apoplectic as Allies Fear Impeachment

Until now, Robert Mueller has haunted Donald Trump’s White House as a hovering, mostly unseen menace. But by securing indictments of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates, and a surprise guilty plea from foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos, Mueller announced loudly that the Russia investigation poses an existential threat to the president. “Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s fucked.

”The first charges in the Mueller probe have kindled talk of what the endgame for Trump looks like, according to conversations with a half-dozen advisers and friends of the president. For the first time since the investigation began, the prospect of impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome and not just a liberal fever dream. According to a source, advisers in the West Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared. One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.

The consensus among the advisers I spoke to is that Trump faces few good options to thwart Mueller. For one, firing Mueller would cross a red line, analogous to Nixon’s firing of Archibald Cox during Watergate, pushing establishment Republicans to entertain the possibility of impeachment. “His options are limited, and his instinct is to come out swinging, which won’t help things,” said a prominent Republican close to the White House.

Trump, meanwhile, has reacted to the deteriorating situation by lashing out on Twitter and venting in private to friends. He’s frustrated that the investigation seems to have no end in sight. “Trump wants to be critical of Mueller,” one person who’s been briefed on Trump’s thinking says. “He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this. And what about Tony Podesta? Trump is like, When is that going to end?” According to two sources, Trump has complained to advisers about his legal team for letting the Mueller probe progress this far. Speaking to Steve Bannon on Tuesday, Trump blamed Jared Kushner for his role in decisions, specifically the firings of Mike Flynn and James Comey, that led to Mueller’s appointment, according to a source briefed on the call. When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation. “Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.” (The White House didn’t respond to a request for comment by deadline.)

As Mueller moves to interview West Wing aides in the coming days, advisers are lobbying for Trump to consider a range of stratagems to neutralize Mueller, from conciliation to a declaration of all-out war. One Republican explained Trump’s best chance for survival is to get his poll numbers up. Trump’s lawyer Ty Cobb has been advocating the view that playing ball will lead to a quick resolution (Cobb did not respond to a request for comment). But these soft-power approaches are being criticized by Trump allies including Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, who both believe establishment Republicans are waiting for a chance to impeach Trump. “The establishment has proven time and time again they will fuck Trump over,” a Bannon ally told me.

In a series of phone calls with Trump on Monday and Tuesday, Bannon told the president to shake up the legal team by installing an aggressive lawyer above Cobb, according to two sources briefed on the call. Bannon has also discussed ways to pressure Congress to defund Mueller’s investigation or limit its scope. “Mueller shouldn’t be allowed to be a clean shot on goal,” a Bannon confidant told me. “He must be contested and checked. Right now he has unchecked power.”

Bannon’s sense of urgency is being fueled by his belief that Trump’s hold on power is slipping. The collapse of Obamacare repeal, and the dimming chances that tax reform will pass soon—many Trump allies are deeply pessimistic about its prospects—have created the political climate for establishment Republicans to turn on Trump. Two weeks ago, according to a source, Bannon did a spitball analysis of the Cabinet to see which members would remain loyal to Trump in the event the 25th Amendment were invoked, thereby triggering a vote to remove the president from office. Bannon recently told people he’s not sure if Trump would survive such a vote. “One thing Steve wants Trump to do is take this more seriously,” the Bannon confidant told me. “Stop joking around. Stop tweeting.”

Roger Stone believes defunding Mueller isn’t enough. Instead, Stone wants Trump to call for a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria (the transaction involved a Russian state-owned energy firm acquiring a Canadian mining company that controlled a large subset of the uranium in the United States). It’s a bit of a bank shot, but as Stone described it, a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano. “You would immediately have to inform Mueller, Comey, and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein that they are under federal investigation,” Stone said. “Trump can’t afford to fire Mueller politically. But this pushes him aside.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...ar-impeachment

^ nice article

Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano.

If there is a God, he will make this happen!

^ Agreed.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Does Trump realize he won almost a year ago?

He really didn't win though. He lost the popular vote and he is a vain stupid bozo. That is all he cares about. Himself. Then you have fake fox news pushing utter bullshit. The sheeple swallow it.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Ivanka's gonna have to choose beds.

FTFY.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Jared is skint.

She'll go for the inheritance, i.e. "Ivanka Tower", etc.

Would you like to make a small wager? I say, in the event she has to choose, she'd go with Jared, at least publically.

Originally Posted by bsnub

He really didn't win though. He lost the popular vote and he is a vain stupid bozo

No, he really did win and Hilary really did lose and the only one she has to blame is herself. The popular vote is only part of the equation, someone on Trump's team was smart enough to figure this out and work it to his advantage. Hilary and the Dems could have worked the same angle, or better yet they could have ran a likable candidate.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Would you like to make a small wager? I say, in the event she has to choose, she'd go with Jared, at least publically.

If she *really* had to choose?

Come on.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Would you like to make a small wager? I say, in the event she has to choose, she'd go with Jared, at least publically.

not interested in any wager, but IMO she'd take daddy over jared every time.

^ creepy.

Their whole relationship is just weird.

^^ Very creepy.
Yuck.

No, It would still have to be Jared, publically.

Ruh ro. Jeff Sessions isn’t going to escape the Russia scandal. Carter Page is seeing to that.

Exclusive: Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip

Former Trump foreign policy adviser Carter Page privately testified Thursday that he mentioned to Jeff Sessions he was traveling to Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign — as new questions emerge about the attorney general's comments to Congress about Russia and the Trump campaign.



During more than six hours of closed-door testimony, Page said that he informed Sessions about his coming July 2016 trip to Russia, which Page told CNN was unconnected to his campaign role. Page described the conversation to CNN after he finished talking to the House intelligence committee.


Sessions' discussion with Page will fuel further scrutiny about what the attorney general knew about connections between the Trump campaign and Russia — and communications about Russia that he did not disclose despite a persistent line of questioning in three separate hearings this year

MORE. Carter Page testifies he told Sessions about Russia trip - CNNPolitics