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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    i'm beginning to think that john dean is right....the only way this ends is in calamity.
    If anyone really takes the time to think this through that conclusion is inevitable. And calamity is the right word. It's impossible to have an outcome that does not seriously damage the country.
    I really hate to break the news to ya Dumbert, but parroting liberal media does not constitute thoughtfulness, or independant thinking in any way shape or form.
    A carrot or a raddish show more independant purpose than the libtard parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I really hate to break the news to ya
    Where is this font of knowledge that you are finding this 'news'? Could it be Hannity this time? Or your old standby Breitbart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    I really hate to break the news to ya
    Where is this font of knowledge that you are finding this 'news'? Could it be Hannity this time? Or your old standby Breitbart?
    No, I learned a new trick from this election cycle; how to follow and use twitter.

    It is pretty darn clear that the Soros/Libtard media are way behind the curve on this, even with all their money and paid shills/protesters.

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    You do not need the media to see the that this administration has put America on course for dark and dangerous waters. You just need to look to the actions of the administration.

    They have totally bungled the transition, most government agencies are basically vacant and the ones that aren't are getting no direction from the WH. The state department is hollowed out at the top. The NSC is a total disorganized disaster in the making.

    I could go on and on. These are not laughing matters to be taken lightly. These things are all completely unprecedented.

    Anyone with a working brain should realize how serious these things are. It is not just democrats that are concerned either. Many conservatives are equally horrified of the current situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snubtard

    Anyone with a working brain.....

    Bit of an oxymoron coming from you snubus patheticus.

    Parroting liberal media only serves to show how far out of the loop and removed from reality you and your fellow libtards are.

    It has been a couple of months now since Trump won, and you still haven't figured out the "how" or "why".
    You probably never will..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Parroting liberal media only serves to show how far out of the loop and removed from reality you and your fellow libtards are.
    You are like a broken record. You lemmings do not even read posts just spew robotic garbage. Why did you choose to not quote this part of my post...

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    You do not need the media to see the that this administration has put America on course for dark and dangerous waters. You just need to look to the actions of the administration.
    Clearly on autopilot. Your brainwashing is complete.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    It has been a couple of months now since Trump won, and you still haven't figured out the "how" or "why".
    I know exactly how and why. I would like to hear why you think he won...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Many conservatives are equally horrified of the current situation.
    Cue the bashing of Vietnam veteran John McCain by the hypocritical right begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post

    I know exactly how and why. no you don't, you only know what lefty media has told you.

    I would like to hear why you think he won...
    I've said it before, for you to understand you have to be able to think for yourself. It is patently obvious you cannot think indepedently of liberal media.




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    General Mattis is a warrior and not a pussy politician. You don't become a four star general in the Marine Corps by being a pussy.

    Personally, I prefer a warrior representing me when the outcome could result in combat. Semper Fi General Mattis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    General Mattis is a warrior
    Of course he is. He's a Pullman, Washington native and alumnus of Central Washington University.

    Go Wildcats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    General Mattis is a warrior and not a pussy politician. You don't become a four star general in the Marine Corps by being a pussy.

    Personally, I prefer a warrior representing me when the outcome could result in combat. Semper Fi General Mattis.

    Yepper I reckon he's got everyone's attention.

    When he say's; "don't fuck with the USA, or I'll turn your little shithole country into radioactive glass!"
    You can bet that he means it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    General Mattis is a warrior
    Of course he is. He's a Pullman, Washington native and alumnus of Central Washington University.

    Go Wildcats!
    And happens to be a four stared general in the Marine Corps, but I have already mentioned that. Not your normal 9-5 office worker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    And happens to be a four stared general in the Marine Corps
    He happens to be retired after 40+ years of service but the Marine motto is, "Once a Marine, Always a Marine" ... Semper Fi ... Do or die ... Kill, kill, kill" ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    It's impossible to have an outcome that does not seriously damage the country.
    Ameristans image was, I thought, completely fucked, I was wrong the POTUSE has taken it to new depths. In only 2+ months. God help ameristan.

    He's fucked the military, financial, legal and administrative systems in what, 1 week.

    He needs this dickhead because many "marines" will obey his orders. He will willing give the order to kill all his Chairman tells him too, foreign and domestic.
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    Fuck the whole regime starting with GWB. :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumbitch View Post
    Fuck the whole regime starting with GWB. :
    And for the most part (of course not all) I consider GWB and Obama to be a continuation.

    We'll wait and see about Trump, but I expect the same: bu$ine$$ as u$ual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    You do not need the media to see the that this administration has put America on course for dark and dangerous waters
    and you do not see that America has been on dark and dangerous waters for the last 15 years,

    you reap what you sow,

    so wake the fuck up, you fool

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ar-arms-mattis

    "Donald Trump’s defence secretary has warned North Korea it would face an “effective and overwhelming” response from the US if it used nuclear weapons.

    Speaking in South Korea on Friday, James Mattis reassured the government in Seoul that the US would retaliate should its northern neighbour launch any attack.

    Mattis, the first senior figure in the new US administration to make an overseas visit, is expected to offer similar security reassurances to Japan despite a suggestion by Trump during the election campaign that Washington’s commitment to its closest ally in the region could weaken unless Tokyo paid more towards the cost of hosting American troops.

    “Any attack on the United States, or our allies, will be defeated, and any use of nuclear weapons would be met with a response that would be effective and overwhelming,” Mattis said in Seoul before leaving for Japan, where he will meet the prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and the country’s foreign and defence ministers.

    'Let it be an arms race': Donald Trump appears to double down on nuclear expansion.

    Abe, who claimed to have established a rapport with Trump during their first meeting in New York last November, will be buoyed by reports that Mattis does not intend to broach the subject of host-nation payments towards supporting almost 50,000 US troops based in Japan.

    The US also has 28,500 troops in South Korea, mostly ranged along the heavily armed border separating it from the North.

    Japan has said that it pays its fair share towards maintaining a US troops presence, mainly on the southern island of Okinawa.

    Abe, who is to meet Trump in Washington next week, told MPs he would remind Mattis about “the significance of the Japan-US alliance”.

    Mattis’s remarks in Seoul come amid concern that North Korea could be preparing to test a new ballistic missile, in what could be an early challenge for Trump’s administration.

    North Korea, which regularly threatens to destroy South Korea and its main ally, the United States, conducted two nuclear tests in 2016 and more than 20 missile tests, in defiance of UN resolutions and sanctions.

    In his New Year’s speech the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un, said Pyongyang was in the “final stages” of developing an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM). Trump responded with a tweet that said “It won’t happen!” but has not explained how he would prevent a North Korean ICBM test launch.

    The North appears to have also restarted operation of a reactor at its main Yongbyon nuclear facility that produces plutonium suitable for its nuclear weapons programme, according to US thinktank 38 North.

    Mattis said: “North Korea continues to launch missiles, develop its nuclear weapons programme and engage in threatening rhetoric and behaviour.”

    North Korea’s actions have prompted the US and South Korea to respond by bolstering defences, including the deployment of a US missile defence system, known as terminal high-altitude area defence (Thaad) in South Korea later this year.

    Mattis and his South Korean counterpart, Han Min-koo, on Friday agreed to deploy Thaad “as a defence system solely against North Korea’s missile threat”, the South Korean defence ministry said in a statement

    China has objected to Thaad, saying it will destabilise the regional security balance, and some South Korean opposition leaders have called for it to be delayed or cancelled.

    Han said the agreement on Thaad indicated that South Korea would continue to enjoy strong US support under Trump. “Faced with a current severe security situation, secretary Mattis’s visit to Korea … also communicates the strongest warning to North Korea,” he said.

    Once fully developed a North Korean ICBM could threaten the United States, which is about 9,000km away (5,500 miles). ICBMs have a minimum range of about 5,500km (3,400 miles) but some can travel 10,000km (6,200 miles) or more.

    Former US officials and other experts have said the United States essentially has two options when it comes to trying to curb North Korea’s fast-expanding nuclear and missile programmes: negotiate or take military action.

    Some analysts say China’s opposition to Thaad makes it less likely that Beijing will act to rein in North Korea – a demand made by Trump and Barack Obama.

    “Deepening tensions between China and the US adds to the North’s strategic value in the eyes of China,” said Lee Ji-yong, a professor at the Institute for Foreign Affairs and Security. “It will make it more difficult for the US to persuade China to cooperate in pressuring the North to give up its nuclear arsenal.”

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    Cheers for the article, SK.

    It's just a repetition of previous admins, as you know.

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    Mattis warns North Korea of 'overwhelming' response to nuclear use

    The US Defence Secretary James Mattis has said any use of nuclear weapons by North Korea would be met with an "effective and overwhelming" response.

    Mr Mattis spoke in South Korea, where he had been reaffirming US support, before flying to Tokyo.

    He also reconfirmed plans to deploy a US missile defence system in South Korea later this year.

    North Korea's repeated missile and nuclear tests and aggressive statements continue to alarm and anger the region.

    The US has a considerable military presence in South Korea and Japan, as part of a post-war defence deal. There are just under 28,500 US troops in the country, for which Seoul pays about $900m (710m) annually.

    President Donald Trump has previously said he wants both South Korea and Japan to pay more towards maintaining that presence.

    Mr Mattis used his visit to reassure South Korea that the Trump administration "remains steadfast" in its "iron-clad" defence commitments to the region, said the Pentagon.

    Speaking after talks at the defence ministry with his South Korean counterpart Han Min-koo, Mr Mattis told reporters that "any attack on the United States, or our allies, will be defeated, and any use of nuclear weapons would be met with a response that would be effective and overwhelming".

    North Korea conducted its fifth test of a nuclear device last year, and claims it is capable of carrying out a nuclear attack on the US, though experts are still unconvinced its technology has progressed that far.

    It has also said in recent weeks that it has a new intercontinental ballistic missile, capable of reaching the US mainland, which it is prepared to test launch at any time.

    Mr Mattis's assertion that an attack by North Korea would get massive retaliation will hardly be a revelation to Kim Jong-un, says the BBC's Stephen Evans in Seoul.

    The bigger question is whether to talk to the North Korean leader to try to persuade him to abandon or limit the size of his nuclear arsenal, our correspondent adds. On that, the Trump administration has so far been silent.

    Chinese fears

    Under the Obama administration, the US and South Korea agreed to deploy a US-made Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defence system in South Korea.

    Its supporters say it is aimed solely at defending from North Korean threats. But China and Russia have complained it is provocative.

    Beijing says it goes "far beyond the defence needs of the Korean peninsula". It believes the system's radar would allow the US to spy on its military.



    It is also unpopular with some South Koreans, who fear missile bases could become targets and endanger people who live nearby.
    Speaking on Thursday, Mr Mattis sought to reassure China, saying there was "no other nation that needs to be concerned about THAAD other than North Korea".
    A Chinese foreign ministry spokesman said on Friday that Beijing remained firmly opposed to the deployment of the missile system.
    After his meetings in Seoul Mr Mattis flew to Japan, where there are a further 50,000 US soldiers plus their dependants and support staff in Japan. The US paid about $5.5bn for its Japanese bases in 2016, with Japan paying a further $4bn.
    Mr Mattis told Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe that the US remained committed to the military alliance between their countries.
    The mutual defence treaty was "as real to us today as it was a year ago, five years ago and it will be a year and 10 years from now", he said.
    According to Japanese media, he also confirmed that the US would defend islands in the East China Sea that are controlled by Japan but claimed by Beijing.

    Mattis warns North Korea of 'overwhelming' response to nuclear use - BBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
    bu$ine$$ as u$ual.
    Sadly this is very likely, but players like Mattis are a bit different, perhaps he will be less likely to to squander the lives of Amercan soldiers on bullshit escapades like what we just saw happen in Yemen.

    The American public is pretty sick of that bullshit, and that's the reason Trump is President and not Hillary....we'll see I reckon..

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    ^
    and in less than two weeks we have a perfect display of the beginning stages of buyer's remorse.


    poor earl.....just starting to realize that he's been conned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
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    and in less than two weeks we have a perfect display of the beginning stages of buyer's remorse.


    poor earl.....just starting to realize that he's been conned.
    If Hillary won we'd be getting conned for sure.

    I'll take a chance with Trump as a wild card.

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    ^The Yemen fiasco was already in play, as part of Obama's militaristic foreign policy.

    Trump, manned up and took responsibility. Something O'Bungler never did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    "Donald Trump’s defence secretary has warned North Korea it would face an “effective and overwhelming” response from the US if it used nuclear weapons.
    I presume the ameristani defence secretary would repond with similar warnings to any countries use of nuclear weapons. Will israel be similarly warned?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Trump, manned up and took responsibility.
    Has the POTUSE pulled out all ameristani military/spies and NGO's back to their home country?

    Until that he has "done" achieved nothing

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