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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
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    For instance if he was told that there was solid evidence that North Korea had a missile on a launch pad equipped with a nuke warhead that was aimed at Washington or Seoul and it was essential that it be taken out immediately before it could be launched what does he do.

    You are suggesting that the person who is authorised to launch war in Ameristan MUST follow his adisors.

    He has no say in the decision to launch or not. He is not the commander of the military forces but a puppet key holder.
    Who are you talking about?

    The (acting) President is the ONLY person authorised to launch nuclear weapons.

    In reality, he needs the approval of the Secretary of Defence, but if he doesn't get it, he can fire him.

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    the father of the SEAL killed in yemen refused to meet with trump, and is demanding an investigation into the planning of the operation....as we learned earlier, trump gave the greenlight during dinner with his son-in-law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
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    The American serviceman killed in Yemen has been named as Chief Petty Officer William Owens, a member of the US Navy special forces unit Seal Team 6.
    it would be interesting to know his family's reaction to the fact that trump and his son-in-law approved the mission during dinner.
    Of course you want his family's faces on T.V. Crying emotional irrational, just like you. It makes good BBC reporting letting the masses being brainwashed with pathetic news reporting to fill you hate filled empty life.
    Can you get his Mother to weep for you and say, "Trump killed my baby boy "
    Yeh result for you, ^^ a grieving parent , " Waaaagh"
    Lippies are sooo predictable

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    the father of the SEAL killed in yemen refused to meet with trump, and is demanding an investigation into the planning of the operation....as we learned earlier, trump gave the greenlight during dinner with his son-in-law.
    These are top-tier Special Ops forces.

    The guys on the ground have the Intel, the training, and I assume asked permission (an order) to go ahead.

    The prez only knows what he's told from half-a-world away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
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    the father of the SEAL killed in yemen refused to meet with trump, and is demanding an investigation into the planning of the operation....as we learned earlier, trump gave the greenlight during dinner with his son-in-law.
    These are top-tier Special Ops forces.

    The guys on the ground have the Intel, the training, and I assume asked permission (an order) to go ahead.

    The prez only knows what he's told from half-a-world away.
    That isn't the point. The point is he's putting US soldiers in harms way, and he should have been there learning what it involves rather than going to dinner with his son in law and tweeting about his fucking interview on TV that night.

    Orange-faced wanker.

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    And if he didn't authorise the mission then the same critics would slam him.

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    April 10, 2017

    A Special Forces soldier killed Saturday in Afghanistan has been identified as Staff Sgt. Mark De Alencar, according to a Defense Department release on Monday.

    De Alencar, 37, died of injuries from enemy small arms fire while his unit was conducting counter-ISIS operations in Nangarhar Province, according to the release.

    The weapons sergeant was assigned to 1st Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group, based at Eglin Air Force Base, Florida.

    https://www.armytimes.com/articles/d...in-afghanistan

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    ^Is that classed as a "blue on blue" incident?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    ^Is that classed as a "blue on blue" incident?
    Only in your warped imagination.

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    a trump tweet from a few years ago...

    "Let's get out of Afghanistan. Our troops are being killed by the Afghanis we train and we waste billions there. Nonsense! Rebuild the USA."
    today's news...

    Two American service members were killed and a third was injured overnight in Afghanistan, a Pentagon spokesman said Thursday.
    Pentagon: Two U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan - POLITICO

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    It is well known that the Taliban where armed and supplied by Saudi Arabia by the Americans in their war against Russia.
    Now the chickens have come home to roost.
    Afghanistan is a waste of life and money.
    But carry on and blame Trump who has nothing to do with this decades old U.S.A mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi
    Afghanistan is a waste of life and money.
    is trump not the commander in chief?

    did he not campaign on 'america first'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    But carry on and blame Trump who has nothing to do with this decades old U.S.A mess.
    Yes, let's get our doddering, clueless Republican Presidents in order here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    a trump tweet from a few years ago...

    "Let's get out of Afghanistan. Our troops are being killed by the Afghanis we train and we waste billions there. Nonsense! Rebuild the USA."
    today's news...

    Two American service members were killed and a third was injured overnight in Afghanistan, a Pentagon spokesman said Thursday.
    Pentagon: Two U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan - POLITICO
    unfortunately, like Obama, Trump doesn't have any real power when it comes to foreigner affairs, it's a Pentagon show, and they make their decisions without the POTUS

    that's how America has 2 regimes running the country, and costing political damages for the democratically elected one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    unfortunately, like Obama, Trump doesn't have any real power when it comes to foreigner affairs, it's a Pentagon show, and they make their decisions without the POTUS

    that's how America has 2 regimes running the country, and costing political damages for the democratically elected one
    But that's going to be changed: the new POTUS claimed at his inauguration speech that now is the end of the Washington power. He gives the power to people!!!

    (obviously, his speech ghost writer mixed in few paragraphs from V.I.Lenin's books)

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    A US soldier has been killed in Somalia during an operation against al-shabab militants. The death occurred on Thursday.

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    Wasn't Somalia the place where they wrote the script for Black Hawk Down.

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    A suicide bombing attack on a NATO convoy in southern Afghanistan on Wednesday left two American service members dead, a Pentagon spokesman said
    The Trump administration is deciding whether to send about 4,000 or more U.S. soldiers to Afghanistan in an attempt to stem Taliban gains.
    U.S. Soldiers Killed in Suicide Attack in Afghanistan | Time.com


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    Trump still has a long way to go to beat Obama's record but he does have several years left in which to beat it.

    Some 2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under Obama - Rolling Stone

    Don't forget that Trump didn't start these wars he inherited them. The world just has to hope like hell he isn't talked into starting any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    Trump still has a long way to go to beat Obama's record but he does have several years left in which to beat it.

    Some 2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under Obama - Rolling Stone

    Don't forget that Trump didn't start these wars he inherited them. The world just has to hope like hell he isn't talked into starting any more.
    But I don't recall an "Obama military deaths thread."

    Ray, how did you miss that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    Trump still has a long way to go to beat Obama's record but he does have several years left in which to beat it.

    Some 2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under Obama - Rolling Stone

    Don't forget that Trump didn't start these wars he inherited them. The world just has to hope like hell he isn't talked into starting any more.
    Don't forget that Obama didn't start these wars, he inherited them.

    I think the US should just let them cosy up to the Russians and fuck off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    Trump still has a long way to go to beat Obama's record but he does have several years left in which to beat it.

    Some 2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under Obama - Rolling Stone

    Don't forget that Trump didn't start these wars he inherited them. The world just has to hope like hell he isn't talked into starting any more.
    Don't forget that Obama didn't start these wars, he inherited them.

    I think the US should just let them cosy up to the Russians and fuck off.
    Once again we have a half truth from Harry.

    Obama started the war in Libya.

    Obama Attacked for No Congressional Consent on Libya - The New York Times

    The Syrian war another of Obama's mistakes.

    Syria?s civil war to mar Obama legacy | Reuters

    Yes Harry the US should fuck off from Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Korea and all the other countries it has stuffed up. It should withdraw its missiles from Europe and lift the sanctions against the long list of countries it presently sanctions.

    https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../Programs.aspx

    The world would then be a happier and more peaceful place without its meddling and war mongering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    Trump still has a long way to go to beat Obama's record but he does have several years left in which to beat it.

    Some 2,500 Americans Have Died in Afghanistan and Iraq Under Obama - Rolling Stone

    Don't forget that Trump didn't start these wars he inherited them. The world just has to hope like hell he isn't talked into starting any more.
    Don't forget that Obama didn't start these wars, he inherited them.

    I think the US should just let them cosy up to the Russians and fuck off.
    Once again we have a half truth from Harry.

    Obama started the war in Libya.

    Obama Attacked for No Congressional Consent on Libya - The New York Times

    The Syrian war another of Obama's mistakes.

    Syria?s civil war to mar Obama legacy | Reuters

    Yes Harry the US should fuck off from Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Korea and all the other countries it has stuffed up. It should withdraw its missiles from Europe and lift the sanctions against the long list of countries it presently sanctions.

    https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../Programs.aspx

    The world would then be a happier and more peaceful place without its meddling and war mongering.
    But it won't, so you'll just have to stay up at night worrying about it.


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    US Military Confirms Fourth Soldier Killed in Niger

    The U.S. military said Friday that a fourth U.S. soldier was killed during an attack this week in Niger.


    Military officials said the soldier went missing after a deadly ambush on Wednesday during a joint U.S.-Niger patrol. They said the soldier's body was found Friday after an extensive search.


    Three other U.S. soldiers were already confirmed dead after the attack. A U.S. defense official told VOA on Thursday that the soldiers killed were members of the U.S. Army Special Forces, also known as Green Berets.


    No one has claimed responsibility for the attack, although U.S. officials say they suspect that a local branch of Islamic State was responsible.


    Niger's army said the joint patrol of U.S. and Nigerien soldiers was ambushed by 40 to 50 militants in vehicles and on motorcycles. AFRICOM said the attack took place about 200 kilometers north of Niger's capital, Niamey, not far from the Niger-Mali border.


    Four members of Nigerien security forces were also killed during Wednesday's attack. Eight Nigerien soldiers and two U.S. troops were wounded.


    Various Islamist militant groups operate in Niger, with Nigeria-based Boko Haram carrying out attacks in eastern Niger and Algeria-based al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) operating in the west along with pockets of Islamic State fighters.


    Emmanuelle Lachaussee, an official at the French Embassy in Washington, told VOA that French forces helped evacuate the U.S. soldiers after the assault.


    The United States has about 800 service members in Niger to provide support for the U.S. Embassy and counterterrorism training for government forces battling Islamist militant groups.


    Joint Staff Director Lieutenant General Kenneth "Frank" McKenzie Jr. told reporters at the Pentagon Thursday that America has increased its military presence in Niger in recent years, calling the U.S.-Niger military relationship "a very good success story."


    He cautioned, however, that U.S. troops remain at risk during their missions in the African nation, adding that the troops killed Wednesday died "in combat."

    https://www.voanews.com/a/us-militar...r/4059992.html

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