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    That's just the start ^ wait till the retards start demanding more, soon they will want the collateral damage of civilians to count, something they ignored before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The soldier lost his life to an accident not enemy fire. Does Trump get labeled for all military deaths caused by accidents whilst he's in office also?
    Err, I don't think it's the soldier's death most people are upset about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    The soldier lost his life to an accident not enemy fire. Does Trump get labeled for all military deaths caused by accidents whilst he's in office also?
    Did you even read the article?

    An MV-22 Osprey experienced a hard landing near the site, injuring several SEALs, one severely. The tilt-rotor aircraft had to be destroyed. A SEAL was killed during the firefight on the ground

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    Questions mount over botched Yemen raid approved by Trump

    The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

    After initially denying there had been any civilian casualties in Sunday’s raid, US Central Command (Centcom), which is responsible for military operations in the Middle East and central Asia, acknowledged some of the dead may have included women and children, though claimed some of the women were armed.


    Eight-year-old American girl 'killed in Yemen raid approved by Trump'
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    A statement said its assessment “seeks to determine if there were any still-undetected civilian casualties in the ferocious firefight.”

    The Pentagon has said a US Navy Seal, chief petty officer William Owens, and 14 militants were killed in the raid in al Bayda province. Medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed. Three US special forces were wounded.

    The mission was approved over dinner five days after the presidential inauguration by Trump and his closest advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...r-inauguration

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    The American serviceman killed in Yemen has been named as Chief Petty Officer William Owens, a member of the US Navy special forces unit Seal Team 6.


    US raid on al-Qaeda in Yemen: What we know so far - BBC News

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    well, at least the Anti-Trump loons have someone to blame for the failure of the Obama administration silly war on AQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    The American serviceman killed in Yemen has been named as Chief Petty Officer William Owens, a member of the US Navy special forces unit Seal Team 6.
    it would be interesting to know his family's reaction to the fact that trump and his son-in-law approved the mission during dinner.

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    ^ I would rather wait until one of his team members writes a book about his mission and what he saw and thought at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    ^ I would rather wait until one of his team members writes a book about his mission and what he saw and thought at the time.
    Need to open congressional hearings immediately. Take a page out of the rethuglican book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    Did you even read the article?
    I apologise if I unintentionally mislead anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly
    someone to blame for the failure of the Obama administration silly war on AQ
    Don't get into this non-responsibility lark.

    The ameristani leader wanted and welcomed the power and position. With that comes the responsibility, the blame and the shame for any mistakes, illegal actions etc. Also the acclamation, if his actions are correct.

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    Trump didn’t bother to show up in the Situation Room for bungled Yemen raid

    President Trump was not in the Situation Room during the first special forces raid of the Trump administration. The raid on a reported al-Qaida base in Yemen resulted in the death of U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan Owens.” Three other officers were wounded during the raid, and a suspected 30 civilians (approx. 10 men, 10 women, 10 children) were killed. Fourteen Al-Qaida were also killed.


    “The president was here in the residence,” Press Secretary Sean Spicer said to reporters. “He was kept in touch with his national security staff. Secretary Mattis and others kept him updated on both the raid and the death of Chief Owens as well as the four other individuals that were injured. So he was kept apprised of the situation.”


    U.S. military officials have told Reuters on condition of anonymity that President Trump “approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.”


    Trump didn't bother to show up in the Situation Room for bungled Yemen raid

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Trump didn’t bother to show up in the Situation Room for bungled Yemen raid
    The headline makes that seem like a bad thing. The further away his tiny hands are from the buttons, the better.

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    so a quick recap...

    trump made the decision while having dinner with his son-in-law, and when the raid actually happened, he couldn't be bothered to leave his sofa and go to the situation room to follow the events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    President Trump was not in the Situation Room during the first special forces raid of the Trump administration. The raid on a reported al-Qaida base in Yemen resulted in the death of U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan Owens.” Three other officers were wounded during the raid, and a suspected 30 civilians (approx. 10 men, 10 women, 10 children) were killed. Fourteen Al-Qaida were also killed.


    “The president was here in the residence,” Press Secretary Sean Spicer said to reporters. “He was kept in touch with his national security staff.
    Why should the potus be in the situational room during a particular raid?

    The intel/info was given/obtained, the potus makes a decision, the highly trained officers and special op forces carry it out.

    Then the results are reported.

    It's not like watching and playing a video game with a joystick in your hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    President Trump was not in the Situation Room during the first special forces raid of the Trump administration.
    kudos to him for not wanting to assist to the murders of women and children in a silly operation that would yield nothing at the end,

    Obama has been a complete failure on that front,

    with the failed ObamaCare, I am not sure Obama has any credible legacy left, what a complete waste

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    President Trump was not in the Situation Room during the first special forces raid of the Trump administration.
    kudos to him for not wanting to assist to the murders of women and children in a silly operation that would yield nothing at the end,

    Obama has been a complete failure on that front,
    And I remember Obama was in the "situation room" half way across the world watching it like a movie with his other staffers.

    Pretty ridiculous, and yours truly, Hillary there too:



    Reliving the bin Laden raid in the White House - CNNPolitics.com

    Nice propaganda photo.

    with the failed ObamaCare, I am not sure Obama has any credible legacy left, what a complete waste
    Yes, the ACA "Obamacare" failed, but he did try. I give him credit for that.

    I was naiive in the beginning and thought he would be different or unique. After about 3 weeks I realized he'd be another potus after picking his cabinet and bringing in guys like Larry Summers and giving the 'bailout' bonus to those wall street bank employees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    he couldn't be bothered to leave his sofa and go to the situation room to follow the events.
    One suspects that he would never leave it given the sun never sets on the ameristani empire.


    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Why should the potus be in the situational room during a particular raid?
    It was his first kill as a whipper in*. He had to be bloodied. I'm sure a few blood soaked and sand caked underware pieces were brought back for him to be initiated in the correct manner.

    *honorary member of a hunt staff, who assists the huntsman with the hounds.
    A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    The American serviceman killed in Yemen has been named as Chief Petty Officer William Owens, a member of the US Navy special forces unit Seal Team 6.
    it would be interesting to know his family's reaction to the fact that trump and his son-in-law approved the mission during dinner.
    Of course you want his family's faces on T.V. Crying emotional irrational, just like you. It makes good BBC reporting letting the masses being brainwashed with pathetic news reporting to fill you hate filled empty life.
    Can you get his Mother to weep for you and say, "Trump killed my baby boy "

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    [QUOTE=Cold Pizza;3456517]
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    President Trump was not in the Situation Room during the first special forces raid of the Trump administration. The raid on a reported al-Qaida base in Yemen resulted in the death of U.S. Navy SEAL William “Ryan Owens.” Three other officers were wounded during the raid, and a suspected 30 civilians (approx. 10 men, 10 women, 10 children) were killed. Fourteen Al-Qaida were also killed.


    “The president was here in the residence,” Press Secretary Sean Spicer said to reporters. “He was kept in touch with his national security staff.
    Why should the potus be in the situational room during a particular raid. QUOTE.

    Why would he indeed? He wanted to check on Arnie's stint on the Trumpsters show. Got his priorities right, that boy!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    trump made the decision while having dinner with his son-in-law, and when the raid actually happened, he couldn't be bothered to leave his sofa and go to the situation room to follow the events.
    White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Wednesday that the raid was approved in an interagency deputies meeting on Jan. 6, and that the plan called for the raid to take place on a moonless night, which meant it would occur after Trump's inauguration.
    Then if shit happens they can blame Trump.

    Inside the Navy SEAL Raid in Yemen Targeting al Qaeda - NBC News

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Then if shit happens they can blame Trump.
    One wonders what the then Mr. Trump, did accept as his "reponsibilities", at his inugaration ceremoney.

    I am assuming the POTUSE is in command and control of all ameristani military operations. Or is that a quaint, old fashioned, view/lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Then if shit happens they can blame Trump.
    One wonders what the then Mr. Trump, did accept as his "reponsibilities", at his inugaration ceremoney.

    I am assuming the POTUSE is in command and control of all ameristani military operations. Or is that a quaint, old fashioned, view/lie?

    I suppose it depends what the president is told, like 'need to know'.

    He would only hear about what was going to happen from those who planned a mission and presumably they would make it so important and urgent for national security that it would be difficult for him to turn them down.

    For instance if he was told that there was solid evidence that North Korea had a missile on a launch pad equipped with a nuke warhead that was aimed at Washington or Seoul and it was essential that it be taken out immediately before it could be launched what does he do.

    Not a fantasy the war mongers at the Pentagon already have plans for a pre-emptive strike against North Korea all they need is a 'go ahead'.

    North Korea facing pre-emptive strike says former US military chief | Daily Star

    North, South Korea trade threats over pre-emptive strike - Washington Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    ^ I would rather wait until one of his team members writes a book about his mission and what he saw and thought at the time.
    Need to open congressional hearings immediately. Take a page out of the rethuglican book.
    Yemghazi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding
    For instance if he was told that there was solid evidence that North Korea had a missile on a launch pad equipped with a nuke warhead that was aimed at Washington or Seoul and it was essential that it be taken out immediately before it could be launched what does he do.

    You are suggesting that the person who is authorised to launch war in Ameristan MUST follow his adisors.

    He has no say in the decision to launch or not. He is not the commander of the military forces but a puppet key holder.

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