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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Missy your nativity is LEGEND.

    I sort of agree with you on Zero Hedge and the rest.

    But what is CNN? MSNBC? All the "media" and "newspapers" you believe?

    So you win Miss Nativity 2018 award. Well done - took some winning to drag it away from harry.
    As described in the gospels of Luke and Matthew.

    My ďnativityĒ is noting in comparison to your constant tin-foil hat spin to avoid the issue at hand. ďLook at the bird over there!Ē is your motto.

    For instance, what has CNN and MSNBC got to do with anything? Iím not getting information from those sources unless they actually interviewed a person who is in the news.

    You just peddle your same old sctick year after year. Corporate media, so and so is a kiddy fiddler, international Joos bankers running the world, you predicted this or that.... Yawn.

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    So come on then, which are your trusted sources of news then? How do you asses the people who are interviewed as being suitable and reliable? Lets hear it then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    and other bullshit like that.
    They go shoot em over there so we don't have to shoot em here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    How do you asses the people who are interviewed as being suitable and reliable? Lets hear it then?
    I’ve not time for asses now. I’ve got to make dinner. Sober up.

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    Sober up? Doesn't agree with me so must be drunk?

    Your news posts are from NY Times, Washington post, Asia Times. etc etc.

    All rags with clear agendas. So before you start picking apart other peoples messengers have a look at your own.

    Besides? haven't you got a maid?


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    ^ Sober up because you have me winning a nativity award and asses the people. What am I supposed to think?


    Let’s talk about those rags with agendas, the NY Times, Washington Post. Both of those publications have high standards and will fire reporters who don’t follow their code of ethics. That means they don’t let reporters intentionally lie, exaggerate, or sensationalize news. Go ahead and prove otherwise.

    Asia Times was at one time owned by a right leaning Thai politician but now Hong Kong based and run. Reporters use their real names.

    I use the wire services. Factual with no fluff. Got a problem with them?

    Politico, again dry and factual with no agenda. Journalists named on their articles.

    RFA, again high standards of reporting. Reporters named. Prove otherwise.

    What other source I use do you want to look at. Go ahead.


    What isn’t news is blogs. Ever read the rules of the forum?



    Haven’t had a maid for a couple of years. She got a real job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    What happened to OBOMBA and TRUMPS pledges to bring all murican troops back to Murica and leave the rest of the world alone?
    Nobody can give you more than I can pledge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    will fire reporters who donít follow their code of ethics.
    No no - will fire reporters who go outside the editorial guidelines. Subtle difference.



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Asia Times was at one time owned by a right leaning Thai politician but now Hong Kong based and run.
    Thai and Hong Kong? Unbiased? Having lived in both places I can assure you... no bloody chance. lol



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    wire services.
    Reuters and AP - the front line of global propaganda. All mainstream media does is rip their articles and reprint them.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Politico
    Owned by a Bankster family. Seriously? FFS. So NATIVITY



    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    RFA
    washington based, and an outlet for pro US imperialism propaganda. Nothing more, nothing less.




    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    What isnít news is blogs. Ever read the rules of the forum?
    Feck the rules. Blogs these days are mostly cut and pastes from that fool alex jones anyway - no diffrent to all your corporate and Bankster owned new cut and pasting Reuters rubbish.

    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Journalists named on their articles.
    What does this have to do with anything? Journos named? They are unimportant. It is their sources who need to be named / identified.

    Problem is - you think I read wingbat crazy bullshit blogs and crap and beleive it all. No, I don't. I have the same cynical attitude to all of it. Alas, you mainstream media drones swallow it all from POlitico, AP, Radio FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Asia (even the name is comical) and never question it, and then if someone does, you try and ridicule them, but NEVER address what is being questioned, by who and how. Same trick your friend hillary used. Don't read the leaked emails. Only follow the birdy when I point at Russia. And off you go, page after page of RUSSIA DID IT reports

    So funny -

    Miss Kitt - Winner of the 2018 Nativity award

    Given each year to the person so dim they would take the nativity story at face value and believe it all.



    (or it might have been a typo. Will go back and asses it later).
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Letís talk about those rags with agendas, the NY Times, Washington Post. Both of those publications have high standards and will fire reporters who donít follow their code of ethics. That means they donít let reporters intentionally lie, exaggerate, or sensationalize news. Go ahead and prove otherwise.
    Yes, I believe. We all had witnessed that during the sale of the Iraq war, hadn't we?

    The clue is in:
    they donít let reporters intentionally lie, exaggerate, or sensationalize news
    As far as I know, nobody "intentionally" had lie, all the policy (war) makers and their announcers were just misled, weren't they?

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    Here's a great one hot off the press.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-deutsche-bank

    Bloomberg. See if any of the drones can spot the hypocrisy, misinfomration and lies in this?

    Oh, and the crux of the story is true - trump should be locked up for this


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Facebook to prioritize posts from friends over publishers


    Facebook will begin to prioritize posts from friends and family over public content and content from publishers, the company announced Thursday.


    Why it matters: Facebook is the most widely-used news and information platform in the world; almost half of Americans use it for news and information. These changes will significantly impact the way people around the world receive and distribute information, possibly limiting the spread of fake news. But the change will completely shift the publishing landscape away from publishers that rely on the news site for traffic.


    Snip:



    • If this plays out bigger than Facebookís previous algorithm tweaks, you'll be witnessing a decrease in power of the machine that helped to create fake news and increased polarization in America.








    MORE https://www.axios.com/facebook-tra-1...18b03bfe0.html
    This is big news and probable that fb will lose a lot of money and investors. Let's hope it actually sticks and works out as planned.

    Similar info.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/t...news-feed.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    I wonder if this was fake news too? First saw about it on ZH today...and it was on RT too. Oh dear.

    Winning hearts and minds.



    Military investigating shooting in newly leaked Afghan combat video
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...d-video-276534

    Moon of Alabama was first on it 9th of January.
    MoA - Afghanistan - U.S. Special Forces Commit Drive-By Murder (Video)


    Probably all crank sites according to the new FuckerFaceBerg algorithm...


    There is a huge difference in how Politico reported this story and how it is reported on the blog, Moon of Alabama. The headline for Moon of Alabama is ďU.S. special forces commit drive-by murder.Ē Huge assumption there. Politico says ďMilitary investigating shooting in leaked Afghan combat video.Ē Not jumping to any conclusion about what happened. This is the difference in news and fake news. Politico is reporting facts. Moon of Alabama is sensationalizing.


    I saw this on Politico this morning and it certainly appears a US soldier shot the window out of the driverís side of a truck. Donít know if the driver is dead and donít know what else is happening at the time.

    There is no way for anyone to know what happened merely from looking at a video clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ That f**ker Tyler Durden again.
    You must have missed the FT and WSJ publications links, easily done by a red misted brain. Never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    Originally Posted by misskit
    ^ That f**ker Tyler Durden again.
    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You must have missed the FT and WSJ publications links, easily done by a red misted brain. Never mind.
    What the "recognized" MSM do not report it has not happened...

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    There is no way for anyone to know what happened merely from looking at a video clip.
    Not if they are blind no.

    But people who can see, would recognize a US soldier shooting an Afghan truck driver in the face for a laugh.

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    But the drive bye murder of an innocent brown driver videos came from your trusted scource: Fartbuck. As identified and attributed, you know like a real reporter does. Not some unamed government "trusted only by fools" employee. One after years of reading their lies does get a little jaundised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnasty2017 View Post
    Not if they are blind no.

    But people who can see, would recognize a US soldier shooting an Afghan truck driver in the face for a laugh.
    Did you see the video? I did. There was no recoil of the shotgun. There was no casing come out. It isn’t even clear that shotgun was fired.

    Start another thread about this incident. Will be a good one to follow.

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    Going back to to a previous post about my nativity.

    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    No no - will fire reporters who go outside the editorial guidelines. Subtle difference.
    Ethics guidelines for various newspapers including WSJ ASNE


    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    Thai and Hong Kong? Unbiased? Having lived in both places I can assure you... no bloody chance. lol
    Where should journalists be based? You tell me and I’ll make a point to find stories there.


    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    Reuters and AP - the front line of global propaganda. All mainstream media does is rip their articles and reprint them.
    See above


    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    Owned by a Bankster family. Seriously? FFS. So NATIVITY
    Oh? Really? Who might this bankster family be?


    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    washington based, and an outlet for pro US imperialism propaganda. Nothing more, nothing less.
    And if I post RT stories or China Daily stories they won’t be propaganda?


    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    Feck the rules. Blogs these days are mostly cut and pastes from that fool alex jones anyway - no diffrent to all your corporate and Bankster owned new cut and pasting Reuters rubbish.
    No feck the rules. They are are DD cast them. If you don’t want to follow them, get lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolous View Post
    What does this have to do with anything? Journos named? They are unimportant. It is their sources who need to be named / identified.
    Because if there is no name as a writer, one can get away with writing all kinds of hateful or untrue stories and not risk backlash from anyone. They can hide their true intention.

    As far as naming sources, there are guidelines to follow for that, too. The sources are known to more than just the writer, just not published for all to see.



    All in all, I’d like to know where you, with all your cynicism, think news should come from. You have stated Zero Hedge, apparently Bulgarian, isn’t a good source. Neither are US, Thai, or HK sources. Should we rely on the Brits? Latvians? Ukrainians? Arabs?

    Who do you trust for your news? Why does everything lead back to Hillary Clinton, banksters, and the US military industrial machine in your news opinions?
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    BTW. Can we all agree that Facebook and Twitter are shitty places to get news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Where should journalists be based? You tell me and Iíll make a point to find stories there.
    Wherever they are based does not matter. What matter is the reader's brain and his willingness to believe or not to when they just trumpet and spread up lies of the most distinguished people speaking under oath, nothing but the truth...

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    ^ I’d reply to more of your posts if I knew what the Hell you are on about.



    Can someone tell me why OhOh always refers to Putin as The LORD? I’m missing something here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ Iíd reply to more of your posts if I knew what the Hell you are on about.
    the reader's brain and his willingness to believe or not to when they just trumpet and spread up lies
    OK, perhaps you did not understand my poor English:
    One example: how did you understand (and "recognize") the lies trumpeted by your favorite "recognized" media in time of selling the Iraq war?

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    ^ I was far away from media during the Iraq War, so don’t know what went on first hand. However, from what I’ve read about it, the media was duped into some serious American flag-waving.

    Hope the media learned a lesson from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    ^ I was far away from media during the Iraq War, so donít know what went on first hand. However, from what Iíve read about it, the media was duped into some serious American flag-waving.

    Hope the media learned a lesson from it.
    I would rather say "Hope the population learned a lesson from it".

    BTW, you were away from media? perhaps still in kindergarten? Such a big noise and fear from Saddam, and misskit miss it?

    Refreshing e.g. NYT:
    Iraq War
    The New York Times supported the 2003 invasion of Iraq.[184] On May 26, 2004, a year after the war started, the newspaper asserted that some of its articles had not been as rigorous as they should have been, and were insufficiently qualified, frequently overly dependent upon information from Iraqi exiles desiring regime change.[185] Reporter Judith Miller retired after criticisms that her reporting of the lead-up to the Iraq War was factually inaccurate and overly favorable to the Bush administration's position, for which The New York Times later apologized.[186][187] One of Miller's prime sources was Ahmed Chalabi, an Iraqi expatriate who returned to Iraq after the U.S. invasion and held a number of governmental positions culminating in acting oil minister and deputy prime minister from May 2005 until May 2006.[188][189]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times

    ...not rigorous and insufficiently qualified...

    That's was surely within guidelines of the ownership of those media (as you claimed), wasn't it?

    "Newspaper asserted" - that reminds me what Ronald Reagan humbly "asserted" about the contra affair: "We have lied to you, but it was for a good purpose..."



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    ^ You sure cherry picked a few words from that entry from Wiki, didn’t you?

    There it is in the actual entry, New York Times admitted their mistake and a reporter resigned over it. After all, they do have a reputation to uphold.



    Can you imagine an admission of a mistake by a newspaper run by an authorian government? Or an even bigger laugh, some blogger admitting he has been wrong for so many years in his predictions of gloom and doom, ala Tyler Durden?



    I have to giggle at your snarky insinuation that I am very young. Chances are pretty good I’m old enough to be your mother. I’m old enough to remember Duck and Cover and fallout shelters in backyards.

    My husband and I worked for years filming wildlife in the most remote areas where there was no news for months at a time.
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