Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It is a felony to lie on financial documents such as bank loan applications.

Doesn't really matter what else you think.

How is it a lie if it's what you personally value something at at any particular time. Surely if you're going for a 100 million bank loan and claiming you have an asset worth 200 million the bank is going to check before loaning you the cash.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

How is it a lie if it's what you personally value something at at any particular time. Surely if you're going for a 100 million bank loan and claiming you have an asset worth 200 million the bank is going to check before loaning you the cash.

if you "personally value" something at forty times what you paid for it, especially when you've later valued it at only double the original price, and it turns out that you are using the higher value to deceive a financial institution into thinking that you have - let's be generous - $271m of assets that you don't have, then you are committing a felony.

Imagine you are a juror. Would you say it wasn't deliberate?

Again: The bank not checking has nothing to do with this, if the Republicans left any regulatory bodies intact then they would be in the shit for not performing due diligence, but this is evidence of a felony.

Added: Remember that Cohen said this is just one example of a pattern of behaviour, so we are probably talking about a pattern of felonies.


Can't wait for the perp walk.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

So what you're saying is the banks do no checks and people take advantage of that.

no, what i'm saying is:

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It is a felony to lie on financial documents such as bank loan applications.

And in case you forgot, as far as bank regulation is concerned, the baldy orange cunto and his GOP suck ups basically repealed most of Dodd-Frank so they can go back to doing stupid shit like this.

taken from the bloomberg article i cited on the previous page:

On a financial statement dated June 2012, Trump reported the value of his “club facilities and related real estate” -- a single line item that encompasses properties from California to Scotland -- increased by $256 million.


Around the same time, he contested the valuation of the two new clubs for tax purposes, getting them down to $98 million, according to a report in the Charlotte Observer.

he claimed it was worth $256 million when applying for a loan and then decided it was only $98 million when it was time to pay taxes.

No one is going to pay more tax than they have to, doesn't everyone do all they can to lower their tax or keep it as small as possible. If people want to pay more nothing stopping you sending a cheque to the government to spend how they want.

Originally Posted by raycarey

(I can't find the throw up one)

Originally Posted by buriramboy

No one is going to pay more tax than they have to, doesn't everyone do all they can to lower their tax or keep it as small as possible. If people want to pay more nothing stopping you sending a cheque to the government to spend how they want.

You are perfectly entitled to pay the minimum amount of tax you owe. What you aren't allowed to do is lie so that you can pay less than you owe.

I'm sure those investigating will get to the bottom of it now that they've given Weisselberg - his long time CFO - an immunity deal.

If you are wondering why baldy orange cunto produced a tweet out of nowhere about his Scottish golf course:

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

@realDonaldTrump

Very proud of perhaps the greatest golf course anywhere in the world. Also, furthers U.K. relationship!

then perhaps the timing explains it:

Donald Trump’s golf course has been ordered pay the Scottish government’s legal costs after a years-long battle with the US President over an offshore wind farm in Aberdeen Bay.


Trump’s business empire heavily delayed the European Offshore Wind Deployment Centre (EOWDC) as it challenged consent for the project right through the Scottish legal system and up to the UK Supreme Court.


The Court of Session in Edinburgh did not reveal the sum involved when it awarded costs to the Scottish government, which confirmed the decision when contacted by Recharge.

Trump International Golf Club claimed the 11-turbine project would ruin the views of golfers playing at the luxury resort, but finally lost its legal battle in late 2015.

The Vattenfall-led EOWDC opened last summer, with Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon formally inaugurating the project in September – and saying the project showed Scotland was “in the mainstream” over fighting climate change.

https://www.rechargenews.com/wind/17...shore-wind-row

At best this is shameless advertising of his private business; at worst it is subtly trying to pressure a foreign government into favouring him in a legal decision by intimating that it would affect "the UK relationship".

The latter is a violation of the Emoluments Clause.

He does have a point about wind turbines as in they are a fucking eyesore which cost a fortune.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

He does have a point about wind turbines as in they are a fucking eyesore which cost a fortune.

If you live in Chiang Mai, about now you'd be learning the true meaning of the word "eyesore".

Besides which, again, what you think doesn't matter, what the law thinks is a different story, and clearly the law thinks it's none of his fucking business, and now he has to pay for the privilege of whinging about it all the way to the Supreme Court.

Maybe he forgot him and McConnell can't stack that particular one.

Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America.
Still the president. Still Making America Great Again.

Until Nov 2024

Originally Posted by britanicus

Until Nov 2024

He won't get parole before then.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Donald J. Trump, President of the United States of America.
Still the president. Still Making America Great Again.

Airbrush much?

Looks like all that hard work the GOP did trying to stop the House investigation has just gone to shit.

81 separate document requests, and more to come.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...QL1Q7?rpc=401&

Originally Posted by Texpat

The hilarious House squandering its capital (ha) on more ghost chasing. They're fucking idiots. What more did you expect? They're not interested in being leaders and lawmakers, they're still incensed Shill got her fat ass spanked by the Don. It's a circus. Meanwhile, the WH carries on Making America Great Again.

Awww, no need to get in a tizzy texprat.

It's still cheaper than baldy orange cunto's golf trips after all.

Originally Posted by buriramboy

No one is going to pay more tax than they have to, doesn't everyone do all they can to lower their tax or keep it as small as possible. If people want to pay more nothing stopping you sending a cheque to the government to spend how they want.

You can't have your cake and eat it too, and you can't lie to the IRS. If the lower valuation, as declared to IRS was the truth, then he lied to the banks, and vice versa. It's a very simple concept.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

you can't lie to the IRS

...*cough*...

Give someone the main leadership role in an American owned company. Sit back and watch as he alienates,his staff, his supporters and the population at large.














































Trump or Mourinho?

America the Cowardly Bully

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/o...EAnuCZTS0ldqGs

Trump, the perfect man for the job.

President Trump has made 9,014 false or misleading claims over 773 days

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/new...ectid=12209519


"The president averaged nearly 5.9 false or misleading claims a day in his first year in office. He hit nearly 16.5 a day in his second year. So far in 2019, he's averaging nearly 22 claims a day."

tl;dr: Drumpf lies. A lot.

AOC: "While [President Trump's] talking collusion, collusion, collusion, I think, in Oversight, we should be talking about taxes, taxes, taxes, and his bank account, his bank account, his bank account. His financial statements, statements, statements."

^looking at all those properties he sold to Russians for yuuuuge profit