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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    how could he claim someone he never met is a great guy.
    That's part of the ridiculousness of it all. I'll try to find the vid. He was answering questions just prior to boarding AF2 (or whatever the helicopter is called). In 3 or 4 garbled Trumpian repetative sentences he distanced himself from whitaker, said he doesn't know him, and said he's terrific. Classic Trump. Lies, repetitons, and "terrific". He didn't say "yuge".

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    well, there is the one Ant put in his post.

    Let me get this straight, I asked to a link for proof and you direct me to a link to what I am questioning. And this coming from one who accuses me of posting fake news. Which way would like it, posting with or without research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Let me get this straight, I asked to a link for proof and you direct me to a link to what I am questioning. And this coming from one who accuses me of posting fake news. Which way would like it, posting with or without research.
    Why are you questioning you imbecile.

    The two videos are posted side by side.

    Even a fucking child can see what was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    And this coming from one who accuses me of posting fake news.
    You do post fake news and have for years. That is an indisputable fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    Let me get this straight...
    Funny how often that expression is immediately followed by obfuscation and disingenuity.

    Do you get paid for it? The amount of time and effort you put in you probably should be if you're not already

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You do post fake news and have for years. That is an indisputable fact.

    So when I asked for a link to research the accuser I am chastized, make up your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Why are you questioning you imbecile.

    The two videos are posted side by side.

    Even a fucking child can see what was done.

    Why would I not seek the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Why would I not seek the truth.
    how about posting some proof that Ant's link is false instead of whining about people chastizing you

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Why would I not seek the truth.
    You never have before and for the most part you are ok swallowing your daily dose of propaganda talking points and then regurgitating them on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    how about posting some proof that Ant's link is false instead of whining about people chastizing you

    No whining here, just pointing out your stupidity. I was not looking for proof the link was false, I was looking for proof to substantiate true or false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Why would I not seek the truth.
    The doctored video came from Infowars.

    Do you think for one moment that would be the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You never have before and for the most part you are ok swallowing your daily dose of propaganda talking points and then regurgitating them on this thread.

    Thanks for your opinion, but I would just as soon make up my own mind about what is really the truth rather than be brain washed by a bunch of anti American wanna be socialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The doctored video came from Infowars.

    Do you think for one moment that would be the truth?

    So you are as thick as the rest of your buddies here. Why would I not look for something to substantiate a lone article from a NZ news paper, which is all that was posted at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Thanks for your opinion, but I would just as soon make up my own mind about what is really the truth rather than be brain washed by a bunch of anti American wanna be socialist.
    You are brainwashed, you senile old fool.

    Anyone who watched the original CSPAN video of the event can see that nothing happened; baldy orange cunto and his hag of a talking head are lying through their fucking teeth as usual.

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    There's something in Repeaters psyche where he actually gets off on posting nonsense and disingenuous dribble to try to aggravate others so that when they call him stupid over it he can play the wounded victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Why would I not seek the truth.
    Then look at the clip that was posted and see for yourself.
    It's not that difficult.

    Here it is again




    Tell me at what minute/second mark does his HAND come in contact with her at all ?

    And that rude bitch actually needed a good slap the way she tried to snatch that mic out of his hand. I've never seen the likes of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I was not looking for proof the link was false, I was looking for proof to substantiate true or false.
    Ant's link had ample substantiation to it, Ray posted more from the WSJ and you're still asking for proof.....if that's not enough, do your own research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    You are brainwashed, you senile old fool.

    Anyone who watched the original CSPAN video of the event can see that nothing happened; baldy orange cunto and his hag of a talking head are lying through their fucking teeth as usual.

    Still over your head? I not nor am not questioning truth or fiction I am only looking for more than just one article from an NZ newspaper.

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    Ok, for the last time. At the time of my post there was one article from a NZ newspaper, I repeat one article from a NZ newspaper of which I was looking for something to back up the story. In the interim there has been plenty more posted you all can stop being stupid and try to understand what my post was asking.

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    The video Sanders tweeted was doctored. Sanders lied again. Breaking the 9th commandment is a daily occurance for her. Not kosher for the daughter of a preacher man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Ok, for the last time. At the time of my post there was one article from a NZ newspaper, I repeat one article from a NZ newspaper of which I was looking for something to back up the story. In the interim there has been plenty more posted you all can stop being stupid and try to understand what my post was asking.
    Repeat it all you like, you're wrong again.

    That 'one article from a NZ newspaper' was actually a syndicated bit from the Daily Telegraph in the UK and had been reported worldwide.

    You'd know this if you'd actually read the article instead of trying to be stupid and muddy the waters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I was looking for something to back up the story.

    shame you don't hold fox and breitbart to the same scrutiny

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    What If Only Men Voted? Only Women? Only Nonwhite Voters?


    By Geoffrey Skelley
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    Imagine if only one group of Americans cast their ballots this November. What would happen to the electoral map? We’ve conducted this kind of thought experiment before; it can help shed light on why the parties are hoping that certain groups — such as suburban women for Democrats, white working class voters for Republicans — will help them win seats in 2018.

    The groups we’re focused on are women, men, nonwhite voters and white voters by education level. To estimate just how Republican or Democratic those groups are, we looked at generic ballot polls from October that have crosstabs1 and calculated how much a group leaned toward one party, on average. From there, we compared a group’s average margin to the margin from our national generic ballot tracker to figure out how many points to handicap a House district’s current polls-only margin2 using the Lite version of our House forecast.3

    So let’s take a look at our first scenario to help explain what I mean. On average, women leaned 17 points more Democratic in October polls, but the generic ballot average leaned D+9, so women overall were 8 points to the left of the nation. So, say a district had a forecast vote share favoring the Republican candidate by 7 points. Under these conditions, an all-women electorate would elect the Democrat by 1 point. Now, shifts like this would not happen uniformly across the country — women in Wyoming are likely more conservative than women in Hawaii, and we’re not taking into account the specific demographics of any given district. But despite that, the results do help underscore just how far apart different parts of the electorate still are.

    A women-only electorate would give Democrats a huge House majority: The adjusted vote share estimates suggest that women would elect 275 Democrats to just 160 Republicans, which is 44 more Democratic seats than the 231 projected Wednesday in the Lite version of our forecast. To put that in perspective, the last time either party won more than 270 seats was in 1978, when the Democrats won 278. But that was a less polarized era, and Democrats held a number of institutional and partisan advantages in the House. Since 1994 — sometimes seen as the starting point of our current political era — the Democrats’ 257-seat result in 2008 stands as the best mark for either party.
    Men, on the other hand, were about 11 points more Republican than the country, and as such, they would elect a 249-to-186 Republican majority. But notice that the GOP seat total that men would secure is lower than the 275-seat Democratic majority that women would elect. This isn’t because men have shifted to the left but because the overall national environment is Democratic-leaning. If it were a Republican-leaning environment like in 2010, women might elect a more closely divided House, but men would likely elect an even larger GOP majority.
    The 2016 presidential election saw a more pronounced cleavage among white voters based on their education levels. College-educated whites shifted toward the Democrats, and whites without a college degree moved further into the GOP camp. The generic ballot data found that college-educated whites were about 2 points to the left of the country. That might not sound like much of a Democratic advantage, but remember that the national environment was D+9 at the time of this analysis.

    Under these conditions, white college voters would elect a 233-to-202 Democratic majority, which isn’t all that different from where the Lite forecast sat on Wednesday: a 231-to-204 Democratic majority. But remember, we’re just looking at a group’s estimated vote share; the model looks at much more to calculate its probabilities. If we were to look at just the difference in the estimated vote share in the Lite forecast, it would show a 219-to-216 Democratic edge, or 14 fewer Democratic seats than if only college-educated whites were to vote. This shows that there is a Democratic lean among college-educated whites, albeit a slight one.
    If we look at white voters without a college degree, their party preference was even more pronounced than college-educated whites. They were 27 points more Republican than the nation as a whole. And as you can see in the map above, if only they were to vote, the country would be almost entirely red outside of big cities. Non-college whites would elect a 268-to-167 Republican majority, but the GOP majority might be even larger than that.

    Some heavily Democratic districts, particularly in the South, would probably elect Republicans even though those districts are blue on our map, and that’s because of a long legacy of racially polarized voting.4 Whites without a college degree in a place like South Carolina’s 6th District, which is 57 percent African-American, would probably elect a Republican instead of Democratic Rep. Jim Clyburn. After all, Trump won 70 percent of the white vote in South Carolina.
    If only nonwhite Americans could cast ballots, they would elect a gigantic Democratic majority (the largest projected majority out of any group we looked at). While white voters on the whole are Republican-leaning (Trump won them by about 15 to 20 percentage points in 2016), nonwhite voters are strongly Democratic (Hillary Clinton won them by more than 50 points). African-Americans, Asian-Americans and Latinos all overwhelmingly vote Democratic, although there are exceptions.5

    We found that nonwhites leaned 33 points more Democratic than the national environment and their adjusted vote share would net a 388-to-47 Democratic majority. However, similar to what we saw in the scenario of whites without a college degree, the Democratic total is likely underestimated. The map suggests that some Southern districts would vote Republican, but again, because voting is so racially polarized in the South, it’s unlikely that these seats would elect a Republican if only nonwhites voted. For example, the Alabama 6th District — held by Republican Rep. Gary Palmer and still controlled by the GOP in this scenario — is 16 percent African-American, which is the largest minority group there. Given that about 90 percent of blacks in Alabama vote Democratic, it would probably be very hard for a Republican to actually win. Nonetheless, the overwhelming Democratic House majority in this scenario makes sense if we look at nonwhite voters as a whole and don’t drill into specific districts. But for all the talk of college-educated white voters boosting Democrats in 2018, nonwhite voters will also be vital to their chances — especially in diverse suburban districts, particularly in the Sun Belt.

    If you’re wondering why many Democrats are talking about health care and many Republicans are doubling down on immigration, it’s with an eye toward the types of voters most likely to support them in November — in this case, women for Democrats and whites without a college degree for the GOP.


    Geoffrey Skelley is an elections analyst at FiveThirtyEight.
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    that's impressive work.

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