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    There seems to be some lame attempts by outfits like the BBC to present these apparently diverse opinions between cabinet appointees and Trump as some kind of discord or clash of ideologies. To anyone with a functioning mind these seemingly diverse opinions are a good sign.

    Trump is neither a career politician, a diplomat or a military commander. He's a real estate guy FFS. He needs people that can challenge his own opinions and persuade him to alter them....where a case can be made to do so.

    Any national leader needs people around him that will not just jump to support his every utterance, but to challenge and advise. In front of the press they may always be seen as in full support, in the interests of unity, but behind closed doors is where the real stuff happens and where decisions and courses of action are influenced, and decided.

    A while back somebody was going on about how Trumps campaign management "took his phone away" so he could not "tweet" any more and get the campaign into trouble in the final stages. That's EXACTLY what a good team does.....it protects it's leader from exercising poor judgement....which even the best of leaders are liable to do at times.

    There simply is far too much going on for one person to absorb and deal with it all. Governing is very much of a team effort, just as winning an election is...and the leader is just the mouthpiece.

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    On the nail again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Few of Trump's choices sit well with his promise to stay out of military interventions.

    Mattis, Secretary of Defense, is an Iran hawk.

    Flynn, National Security Advisor, sees Iran as the biggest threat to US interests in the Middle East. He says it is a matter of time before a military option is back on the table.

    Pompeo, head of the CIA says Russia hacking was aggressive action by senor leaders (and Snowdon should receive the death penalty.

    10 things we learned from Mike Pompeo's CIA confirmation hearing

    https://www.conservativereview.com/c...mation-hearing
    For me this is the biggest concern, his team are very pro-jewish, and he is too, and he could be goaded into military action on iran on behalf of israel. The ME is a mess and he needs a good team to navigate that region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    There seems to be some lame attempts by outfits like the BBC to present these apparently diverse opinions between cabinet appointees and Trump as some kind of discord or clash of ideologies. To anyone with a functioning mind these seemingly diverse opinions are a good sign.
    The intelligence agencies are also part of his team and he shows no hesitation in mocking them and forging ahead with his own unique view of the Russia which is at odds with everyone except his close inner circle. He clearly has the ear of Jared Kushner who despite his family relationship has been named to the highly sensitive position of senior advisor to the president. Kushner is also a fierce Israel hawk and will shape Trump's middle east policy especially it's hard line against Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    . Kushner is also a fierce Israel hawk.
    Link?

    Other than being an orthodox jew is there evidence of hawkish foreign policy tendencies?

    Perhaps you're having just another psychic/ psychotic drift into unreality, fueled by an unhealthy obsession with fake news.

    Acute symptoms(the dumberts of the world) of Trump derangement syndrome, y'all should be seeking help. IMHO!


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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    For me this is the biggest concern, his team are very pro-jewish, and he is too, and he could be goaded into military action on iran on behalf of israel. The ME is a mess and he needs a good team to navigate that region.
    Another scary idea looks to be going through.

    Meeting With Kushner’s Friend Convinced Abbas: Trump Serious About Jerusalem Embassy Move

    The Palestinian leader ramped up efforts against relocating the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem after a meeting with American investor Daniel Arbess, sources say.


    read more: Meeting with Kushner?s friend convinced Abbas: Trump serious about Jerusalem embassy move - Israel News - Haaretz.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Other than being an orthodox jew is there evidence of hawkish foreign policy tendencies?
    He is extremely close to Netanyahu and agrees with him on the settlements issue.
    Christ you're an uninformed dumbass. Kushner's close ties to Israel's right wing politicians are well known to most except you it appears.

    Jared Kushner's Israel connection will delight Benjamin Netanyahu | Coffee House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    Other than being an orthodox jew is there evidence of hawkish foreign policy tendencies?
    He is extremely close to Netanyahu and agrees with him on the settlements issue.
    Christ you're an uninformed dumbass. Kushner's close ties to Israel's right wing politicians are well known to most except you it appears.

    Jared Kushner's Israel connection will delight Benjamin Netanyahu | Coffee House

    All opinions and suppositions from one person, simply based on his religion...

    Being on cordial terms with allies like Netanyahu is an asset, not a liabilty ya freaking bonehead!

    Something they don't teach in Obama failed foreign policy 101,


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    All opinions and suppositions from one person, simply based on his religion...
    Being on cordial terms with allies like Netanyahu is an asset, not a liabilty ya freaking bonehead!
    Something they don't teach in Obama failed foreign policy 101,
    Duh. How is Netanyahu an asset? Unless you think that the suffering of the Palestinian people is a good thing.
    Clueless Trumptard Earl who believes anything his master tells him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    There seems to be some lame attempts by outfits like the BBC to present these apparently diverse opinions between cabinet appointees and Trump as some kind of discord or clash of ideologies. To anyone with a functioning mind these seemingly diverse opinions are a good sign.
    The intelligence agencies are also part of his team and he shows no hesitation in mocking them and forging ahead with his own unique view of the Russia which is at odds with everyone except his close inner circle. He clearly has the ear of Jared Kushner who despite his family relationship has been named to the highly sensitive position of senior advisor to the president. Kushner is also a fierce Israel hawk and will shape Trump's middle east policy especially it's hard line against Iran.
    Well of course those of us who are not frantic libtards, don't have crystal balls and mind reading capabilities.

    Not only do you see into the mind of Trump, but also the minds of everyone around him. The "intelligence" agencies Trump has been "mocking" have fallen on their asses more than a few times and very likely need a good clean out and restructuring.
    So called intelligence agencies can become less than politically neutral over time and need a bit of culling and re-direction.

    I have no idea what Jared Kushner will be telling Donald about Iran or the ME in general, but a Jew supporting Israels interests is not likely to shock anybody.

    Donald for years has been spouting off about how so many countries have been taking advantage of the USA and how the world did not respect Uncle Sam anymore.....and how the dithering, apologist, self-serving, Washington establishment have been letting the country down.

    He made no secret of the fact that things would be different under a Trump administration......so you may as well put your crystal ball away and see it he puts his money where his mouth has been. He may well fall on his ass, but just like the election he might just surprise everybody and pull all this off. You libtards have not been scoring very high points in the prediction department lately...

    Just think, if you had just waited for the election instead of bleating away for a year or more about how this guy had no chance, you would not have looked like a fukin deer in the headlights when the votes came in.....

    My main problem with Donald is that he wears his ties too long......I hope he gets sound advise on this matter shortly.

    Ooooo but the popular vote....lets recount everything....have a street riot....block the Interstate,......

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    I have no idea what Jared Kushner will be telling Donald about Iran or the ME in general, but a Jew supporting Israels interests is not likely to shock anybody.
    What a stupid generalization. As if all Jews share the same views about settlements. It may shock you to know that Netanyahu belongs to the extreme right in his country and a sizable number of Jews in Israel dislike his policies and would like to see the settlements stop and find a pathway to a two state solution.

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    Come on Humbert thats a pretty shit segue:

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    What a stupid generalization

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    ^^ you guys can't have it both ways. As Iran and Russia have good relations, you can't reconcile trump being a hawk on iran, and pro Israeli, and also russian stooge.

    I don't know what kushners views are, but I know bannon is very pro Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    you guys can't have it both ways. As Iran and Russia have good relations, you can't reconcile trump being a hawk on iran, and pro Israeli, and also russian stooge.
    I can't reconcile it? It is up to Trump to reconcile his predicament not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Come on Humbert thats a pretty shit segue:
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    but a Jew supporting Israels interests
    You don't think that's a generalization? Clearly you missed something. Netanyahu's interests are not necessarily the interests of all Jews are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    you guys can't have it both ways. As Iran and Russia have good relations, you can't reconcile trump being a hawk on iran, and pro Israeli, and also russian stooge.
    I can't reconcile it? It is up to Trump to reconcile his predicament not me.
    You really love to put the tard into libtard, don't you?

    Here in the real world, outside lalaland, there is no predicament. The notion falls apart under any kind of scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longway
    Here in the real world, outside lalaland, there is no predicament
    That's right. The typical churlish Trump supporter does not know what he does not know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    As if all Jews share the same views about settlements.
    I believe the point was about Jared Kushner and his relationship with Trump.....not ALL Jews.......and nobody has suggested otherwise. You don't even know WTF we are talking about half the time do you....

    Oh and thanks for the red you miserable old libtard drone......

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    I believe the point was about Jared Kushner and his relationship with Trump
    A jew supporting Israeli interests. That was the generalization you made. Which makes the assumption that all Jews agree on Israeli intersts. Of course the fallacy in your statement has eluded you.

    You do realize that half the population of territory under Israeli control are Palestinian don't you. A sizable portion of those people do not even agree on Israeli interests.

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    And what will Trump do with "Benghazi"?
    For months I have been reading about this Benghazi scandal.
    Benghazi on Monday, Benghazi was a Clinton mistake, Benghazi was not a mistake,...
    But now I hear nothing about it.
    This is clearly a sign something is wrong here.
    I can smell there is something fishy going on.
    But I am convinced that Trump will clear it up now.
    We want the Truth, we want answers after so many months.

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    ^Google is your friend. Benghazi House Investigations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by importford View Post
    And what will Trump do with "Benghazi"?
    For months I have been reading about this Benghazi scandal.
    Benghazi on Monday, Benghazi was a Clinton mistake, Benghazi was not a mistake,...
    But now I hear nothing about it.
    This is clearly a sign something is wrong here.
    I can smell there is something fishy going on.
    But I am convinced that Trump will clear it up now.
    We want the Truth, we want answers after so many months.
    The Clintons and the Clinton foundation are already all but completely destroyed.
    Hillary is finished as a politician.

    Trump already has a rather full plate than to pursue a petty vindinctive agenda against Clinton.

    No one really cares about Clinton anymore except the truly zealous and absolutely inconsolable liberal snowflakes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    No one really cares about Clinton anymore except the truly zealous and absolutely inconsolable liberal snowflakes.
    No one on this thread is banging on about Clinton except the Trumpettes, who don't seem to be able to give up the ghost.

    Let's see who is next to bring up Clinton.

    This is the President Donald Trump thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    No one really cares about Clinton anymore except the truly zealous and absolutely inconsolable Mr. Earl and his little pals.
    Fixed that for ya.

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    I wonder how chump will deal with this political minefield.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ar-under-trump

    How's he going to respond to Putins disapproval?
    Will he tell Putin the U.S. Doesn't have to get Russian approval to deploy troops or will he bow to Putins will.
    This will be his first test by fire.
    He's about to learn there's a lot more to being president than he thought.
    Also Tillerson might have different ideas to chump.
    “If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.

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