maybe Russians planted fake evidence to ridicule the whole "grapevine" so that McCain could be outed for the turd that he isOriginally Posted by Farangrakthai
maybe Russians planted fake evidence to ridicule the whole "grapevine" so that McCain could be outed for the turd that he isOriginally Posted by Farangrakthai
perhaps, but IMO mccain and graham are the primary suspects for getting this out in the light.Originally Posted by Dragonfly
and i don't doubt that the CIA, NSA et al. had a hand in it.
What better way to teach Americans about being truly invested in learning about their candidates?Originally Posted by raycarey
yes.Originally Posted by CSFFan
but wait....there's more....
Here’s a look at some of the people in Trump’s orbit whose Russian ties have sparked concerns.
Paul Manafort
Resigned as Trump’s campaign manager in August amid questions about his foreign lobbying work and alleged ties to pro-Russia forces in Ukraine. He is reportedly in close contact with the Trump transition team, though transition officials have downplayed his role.
Served as an adviser to Russian-backed political leaders in Ukraine, from 2007 to 2012.
His main client was former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, who was overthrown in 2014.
His business associates included Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, who was a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Documents found after Yanukovych’s ouster showed $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Manafort, The New York Times reported in August.
Rick Gates
Briefly worked as the Trump campaign’s liaison to the Republican National Committee and is now “working behind the scenes on inauguration activities,” according to CNN.
Worked for Manafort’s political consulting firm, where he arranged meetings between Ukrainian officials and American members of Congress. He also worked to undercut sympathy for Yulia Tymoshenko, the imprisoned rival of Yanukovych.
Michael Flynn
The former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency is Trump’s pick to be his national security adviser.
Has advocated forging closer ties with Russia.
Attracted criticism for a series of paid speaking engagements he did for RT, the Kremlin’s propaganda channel. Those appearances included a 2015 trip to Moscow to attend a banquet celebrating the network. Flynn was seated next to Putin.
Rex Tillerson
Trump’s choice for secretary of State.
Chief executive of Exxon Mobil with a long history of business transactions in Russia.
Was awarded the Order of Friendship by Putin in 2013. The designation is one of the highest honors Russia gives to foreign citizens.
Is a close personal friend of Putin’s.
Wilbur Ross
Trump’s pick for secretary of Commerce
Billionaire investor whose specializes in buying and turning around troubled companies
Was a board member of the U.S.-Russia Investment Fund under President Bill Clinton.
Reportedly a business partner of Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg.
Carter Page
Was a foreign policy adviser to Trump early in the campaign.
The Trump team distanced itself from Page last fall after he attracted scrutiny for his alleged communications with Russian officials.
Has extensive business connections in Russia, where he spent three years as an investment banker in the early 2000s.
Reportedly traveled to Moscow in July, just before the Republican National Convention. He allegedly met there with a former Russian security official “believed by U.S. officials to have responsibility for intelligence collected by Russian agencies about the U.S. election,” according to Yahoo News.
He was reportedly “scrutinized” by the FBI over the summer because of his alleged private communications with Russian officials. Page called the investigation a “witch hunt,” The New York Times reported.
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
OCT. 31, 2016
For much of the summer, the F.B.I. pursued a widening investigation into a Russian role in the American presidential campaign. Agents scrutinized advisers close to Donald J. Trump, looked for financial connections with Russian financial figures, searched for those involved in hacking the computers of Democrats, and even chased a lead — which they ultimately came to doubt — about a possible secret channel of email communication from the Trump Organization to a Russian bank.
Law enforcement officials say that none of the investigations so far have found any conclusive or direct link between Mr. Trump and the Russian government. And even the hacking into Democratic emails, F.B.I. and intelligence officials now believe, was aimed at disrupting the presidential election rather than electing Mr. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/u...rump.html?_r=0
yep, he was a hard-core d.c. operative with some shady dealings in the past.Originally Posted by CSFFan
though, CSFfan,
that leads you to believe that trump's currently being blackmailed by the russians?
Originally Posted by CSFFan
why would he be forced to resign?Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
it's mccain's duty as both an american and public servant to hand over this information about trump potentially being blackmailed by the russians.
if he didn't pass it on to the FBI, then he should be forced to resign.
i'd like the disciples of the orange messiah to engage in a brief hypothetical....
imagine this same exact story came out in january 2007 about obama.
need i go on?
didn't think so.
enjoy!
Seriously who cares if he's had contact with Russia, do you dumbfuks not want a more peaceful world or you all want more wars with thousands of innocents dying while the puppet masters remain unaffected in their ivory towers.
All this is about is trying to box Trump in as in if he tries to form a more harmonious relationship with Russia libtards are going to start screaming its because Putin is blackmailing Trump.
If he's not being actively blackmailed, then the potential exists. Do you want a president that could be potentially blackmailed into making a decision?Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
Why would someone from the British embassy give a file about alleged Trump links with Russia to McCain? It doesn't make sense.
The better question would be is why McCain found it credible.Originally Posted by Neverna
the potential exists because his former campaign manager is shady?Originally Posted by CSFFan
Originally Posted by buriramboy
Originally Posted by raycarey
The potential exists because of his dealings with the Russians could be used to influence the Duck's decisions.Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
I bet McCain doesn't have to work in McDonalds....can you say the same?Originally Posted by The Crazy Mexican
it did, like's been mentioned on this thread, that obama wasn't qualified for office as he was born in kenya and it was being promoted on right-wing websites, not mainstream conservative newspapers like the wall street journal.Originally Posted by raycarey
though, this story and the "russia hacked the election" nonsense is being published in the mainstream media like CNN for this story and the CIA/NY Times/WA Post nonsense about the "russian hacking of the election".
what dealings, pray tell?Originally Posted by CSFFan
FFS Russia is not the enemy and if the U.S. would stop its aggression towards Russia, we'd all be a lot happier in Europe. Why do dumbfuk seppos want to reignite the cold war? Trump seems the first sensible seppo to enter the Whitehouse for quite a while.
Who would have thought it a President on the repubtard ticket wanting peace and libtards wanting war, how the world is changing.
About ten minutes to Trump's press conference.
I hope the first question is "Do you drink the Laydeee's piss Mr. President Elect?".
That would be fucking funny.
Heard on the radio news that the Russians answer to all this is this " it's pulp fiction "
being an independent/libertarian who's voted for republicans and democrats, i truly hope the neo-cons (new conservatives) return to the democrat party from which they came decades ago.Originally Posted by buriramboy
trump will move the republican party back to its traditional "realist" view of the world, not remaking the world in american's image like the neocons want (of course doing it all to take pressure off israel to give up land for peace).
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