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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Well the entire US intelligence community thinks it is something of significance and so does a bipartisan majority of congress
    And bears further investigation because the accusations are serious and the guy who did the report has a good reputation for credibility, but nothing in the report has yet to be substantiated and should be taken with a degree of caution. The news reporting I have seen on this is treating it with a great deal of caution.
    The reason that it has become a big deal today is because CNN broke the story in a limited way. Their main storyline was about the report being given to Trump. That is why they treated it as newsworthy. They did not report on the salacious aspects. Then all hell broke loose and the other sources for the unabriged report became available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Evidence can set one on a long path to discovery. That should never be a sign that it does not exist.
    so, you want to bet that some "evidence" will eventually show up that the russians have something to blackmail Trump with, but you're not sure what it is?

    how much do you want to bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    Trump's critics are bound to overplay their hand and get caught with egg on their faces.
    Lets get it on son. Bets? I am in.

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    ^Chico has shown up with another new nic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    Trump's critics are bound to overplay their hand and get caught with egg on their faces.
    perhaps, but here's the thing....it doesn't matter...the teabaggers and the kochs brought us into this post-fact world we now inhabit.

    cry all you want, but it's already been accepted as real.....the russians blackmailed trump because they have a video of him being pissed on by russian whores. true or not..it doesn't matter.... truth be damned.

    just like obama is a muslim....he wasn't born in the US....and all the other lies.

    as you sow, so shall you reap.

    good times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    cry all you want, but it's already been accepted as real.....the russians blackmailed trump because they have a video of him being pissed on by russian whores. true or not..it doesn't matter.... truth be damned.
    Very true. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Trump is not the only one who can play this game.

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    Ok so this is all just a payback game now?

    First it was breaking news and now it's just a trolling smear campaign?

    My my the backpeadeling is strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Very true. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Trump is not the only one who can play this game.
    And even more believable than Obama being a Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    perhaps, but here's the thing....it doesn't matter...the teabaggers and the kochs brought us into this post-fact world we now inhabit.

    cry all you want, but it's already been accepted as real.....the russians blackmailed trump because they have a video of him being pissed on by russian whores. true or not..it doesn't matter.... truth be damned.

    just like obama is a muslim....he wasn't born in the US....and all the other lies.

    as you sow, so shall you reap.

    good times.
    fair point, but it was right wing websites publishing those "Obama is a Muslim" stories not conservative newspapers like the Wall Street Journal.

    CNN/NY Times/WA Post are publishing headlines that "Russia Hacked the Election" when in fact it was the FBI that was releasing Hillary's e-mails.

    while wikileaks just published some obscure e-mails from the DNC and Podesta (showing that the DNC favored hillary over bernie among other minor things) that political junkies like me find interesting/entertaining.

    And, now more nonsense:

    russia having blackmailable info on trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Ok so this is all just a payback game now?

    First it was breaking news and now it's just a trolling smear campaign?

    My my the backpeadeling is strong.
    Did not occur to me until Ray mentioned it. It does seem like something has changed though regarding truth thanks to Trump.

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    the kremlin is denying it blackmailed trump.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    It does seem like something has changed though regarding truth
    most definitely....facts no longer matter.

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    Yep serious backpedaling now.

    The facts do actually matter and if it comes out that some of this is actually impeachable then ill be the first to turn coats and join the anti trump brigade.

    I'm still viewing this an clickbait hysterics right now. And of course pretty clear that the democrats are not at all morally 'better' than republicans and this just shows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    And of course pretty clear that the democrats are not at all morally 'better' than republicans and this just shows it.
    Or the straight up shit is that the Russian's got the dope on Trump and have been using it to blackmail him. After all, who would Russia want to be President, Trump under their definite control or Hillary who might not be so influenced....

    If you look at things from a Russian perspective, they've got to be laughing their asses off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    Or the straight up shit is that the Russian's got the dope on Trump and have been using it to blackmail him. After all, who would Russia want to be President, Trump under their definite control or Hillary who might not be so influenced....

    If you look at things from a Russian perspective, they've got to be laughing their asses off...
    "been using it to blackmail him" ?

    you think trump is knowingly being blackmailed at this time before he enters the white house?

    seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    you think trump is knowingly being blackmailed at this time before he enters the white house?

    seriously?
    Yep...it explains the meetings between his senior aids with Russians during the election.

    If it was above board, he would have mentioned the talks between his staff and the Russians, if it wasn't above board, it comes out in an intelligence report...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    you think trump is knowingly being blackmailed at this time before he enters the white house?
    as opposed to unknowingly being blackmailed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    If it was above board, he would have mentioned the talks between his staff and the Russians, if it wasn't above board, it comes out in an intelligence report...
    i'm really looking forward to the press conference that starts a little over an hour from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    Yep...it explains the meetings between his senior aids with Russians during the election.
    imagine that is the very first "fact" that will be proven false.

    preibus (future trump press secretary) already said today it's absolute nonsense and that guy's never even been to prague:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-att...071908867.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    Or the straight up shit is that the Russian's got the dope on Trump and have been using it to blackmail him.
    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    as opposed to unknowingly being blackmailed?
    as opposed to others saying russia has blackmailable info on him.

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    seems to be a farewell gift by the Obama team

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    if anyone fries for passing on this nonsense to the FBI, it'll be mccain and hope he's forced to resign.

    about time for the last two remaining hardcore warmongering neo-con senators (mccain and lindsey graham) to ride into the sunset.

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    well all this proves one thing again,

    that the press and the main media can be easily manipulated to create shit storms out of nowhere,

    reminds me of the Levinsky affair with poor Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    .the russians blackmailed trump because they have a video of him being pissed on by russian whores.



    BuzzFeed Posts Unverified Claims on Trump, Stirring Debate
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/b...ssia.html?_r=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    imagine that is the very first "fact" that will be proven false.
    Didn't his first campaign manager resign due to his contacts with the Russian government?

    FBI probes ex-Trump campaign manager?s ties to Russia | New York Post

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