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    So this is a summary that was posted up on reddit. Like I said before this is still breaking news but it is BIG news. There is a lot to take in here...
    8+ years of communication between him and Kremlin, and 5+ year relationship of cultivating/supporting/assisting Trump by Russia.

    They offered him real estate deals IN RUSSIA to further ensnare him, but he declined.

    Russia has dirt on Trump watching Russian prostitutes give golden showers.

    Detailed claims of bilateral intelligence sharing back and forth between Trump and Putin. Trump had DNC moles and used US as well as foreign hackers. Trump got info on his opponents, Putin got info on Russian oligarchs + families living in US.

    They used the pension system that Russian diplomats used to transfer information back and forth to/from each other as well. It mentions tens of thousands of dollars were sent in addition to the money.

    Russia's main goal appears to be driving wedges to cause divisions in the West. They aided Jill Stein, Carter Page and Michael Flynn (the latter two being members of Trump's team) in doing so.

    Main goal of DNC emails appeared to be swinging Sanders voters to Trump.

    Russia and Trump had a mutual agreement on the DNC hack. Russia released the emails to Wikileaks in return for Trump removing mention of Russian invasion of Crimea in favor of talking about NATO financial commitments in Eastern Europe and the Baltics. Putin wanted people to stop talking Ukraine while also undermining NATO.
    Trump's most damning financial commitments are actually in China and other emerging markets. He's paid large bribes and kickbacks there that would've destroyed his campaign if made public.

    Hilariously, when Trump said he had few Russian financial investments, that was true, but he has actively sought them out only to be denied. He apparently settled for extensive sexual favors there instead
    Trump lawyer Cohen had clandestine meeting with Kremlin operatives in August, held in Prague to try to make it seem less suspicious.

    Ukrainian President that Putin installed confided to Putin he DID provide ex-campaign manager Manafort w/ kickbacks that were previously reported. Left no paper trail.
    Russia pissed this has gotten so much media coverage. They hoped to push for improved Russian-US relationships regardless of who was elected. Ancillary goal with Clinton was to drive her positions further from Obama's in event she won - they're happy both candidates were anti-TPP because they viewed that as bad for them.
    Trump has bribed Russian business interests but worked diligently to obfuscate and eliminate paper trail. Also engaged in Russian sex parties but has likewise bribed or coerced witnesses to be silent. They do believe a particular Russian businessman was intricately linked to Trump would know details.

    Manafort/Page/Cohen all highly compromised. They/Trump were apparently offered up to 19% stake in Russian STATE-OWNED oil company Rosneft by its president if they could successfully get Western Russian sanctions lifted. Page expressed interest in this deal, saying sanctions would be lifted.

    Once the sh*t started to hit the fan, Cohen was heavily involved in trying to cover up the relationship between Carter/Manafort/himself and Russia.

    Mentions that the Trump team AND Russia both paid Romanian hackers to help sabotage Democrats.
    Overall goal of electing Trump was to destabilize Western and world order in Russia's favor since he was anti-establishment and so divisive.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/co...ort=confidence


    Its all starting to make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    All these events have a political dimension that should be left out of the investigation.
    Do you you really think that's possible when most of the players concerned are already owned by corporate politics?

    Seems to me a trsnsparent ploy to overturn a duly elected mandate of the people who are sick to death of the status quo corporate corruption which pervades current politics and media.

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    Democracy itself is at risk here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Democracy itself is at risk here.

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    Can you imagine his reaction when he was presented with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub
    Russia has dirt on Trump watching Russian prostitutes give golden showers.



    care to comment earl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    explosive — but unverified - alleges collusion - not independently verified - it remains unverified - U.S. intelligence services declined to comment - the Intelligence and Armed Services committees also declined to comment - Trump's camp issued their own denials - these reports have no documentation - no evidence was included - so top secret they must remain confidential - does not appear to have been generated by an American intelligence agency
    They say jump... you say how high.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    it is BIG news
    If it was that BIG Trump would already be in handcuffs and this story wouldn't be relegated to a UK tabloid and Reddit.
    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Its all starting to make sense.
    Too funny

    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Democracy itself is at risk here.
    Which version of Democracy is that then snub..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    This story is going to be a steady drip, drip, drip for a long time. It will not go away in one news cycle. It is going to sit like a black cloud over Trump's presidency and he is certain to try and exploit by blaming his usual nemises; namely the media and the Clintons. But any way he tries to slice it, it will certainly be a huge negative for him.
    I'm sure it will rumble on, but not for as long or as loud as the 'Obama was born with a Kenyan passport' claptrap. The inauguration is on the 20th right.? So the FBI has until then to stop this dog and pony show in its tracks.. if it doesn't then I think it can be safe to say there is no real substance or evidence to back up these claims and that is a political move to tarnish the image and question the legitimacy of the incoming president... much like the negative news campaigns run against Obama that successfully tarnished his early presidency. Such is the nature of American politics.
    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    If it was that BIG Trump would already be in handcuffs and this story wouldn't be relegated to a UK tabloid and Reddit.
    Look at the reddit thread. There are links to at least thirty news outlets that are reporting this. It is exploding all over the news right now. Get used to it this is not going away. The ex MI6 agent that handed the dossier over is highly respected in the intelligence community.

    I will not preface the following statement with an "are". You so stupid to think that the Russians would not attempt something like this. Putin is an ex cold war KGB agent who was in East Germany when the wall fell. I lived in Germany during the eighties and this type of espionage was common place. The fact that you think that it is somehow different today shows remarkable stupidity.

    Sorry you can go back to worshipping Putin now. I did not mean to interrupt the cock slurping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    If it was that BIG Trump would already be in handcuffs and this story wouldn't be relegated to a UK tabloid and Reddit.
    Look at the reddit thread. There are links to at least thirty news outlets that are reporting this. It is exploding all over the news right now. Get used to it this is not going away. The ex MI6 agent that handed the dossier over is highly respected in the intelligence community.

    I will not preface the following statement with an "are". You so stupid to think that the Russians would not attempt something like this. Putin is an ex cold war KGB agent who was in East Germany when the wall fell. I lived in Germany during the eighties and this type of espionage was common place. The fact that you think that it is somehow different today shows remarkable stupidity.

    Sorry you can go back to worshipping Putin now. I did not mean to interrupt the cock slurping.


    The good news from all of this is the Vice President elect will do a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    The fact that you think that it is somehow different today shows remarkable stupidity.
    Sorry you can go back to worshipping Putin now. I did not mean to interrupt the cock slurping.
    There she goes... projecting again

    Okay... putting it into terms that you can relate to...

    Either Trump is at the inauguration in 9 days time and you're lapping up being bukkake'd by media fags ... or I'm getting spit roasted by Trump and Putin.


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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Trump tweeted: “FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!” He made no direct reference to the allegations.
    Normally I would say Trump days are counted. But then I remembered...

    I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false.
    O.K. maybe not days, but months. Trump will dig his own grave, I'll give him max. 2 years until he and his Patchwork family get kicked out of the White House.
    Any bets out there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Either Trump is at the inauguration in 9 days time and you're lapping up being bukkake'd by media fags
    This will not stop the inauguration clearly the investigation will not have concluded by then. If any of this is true and to be clear not all of it needs to be it will end in an impeachment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    There she goes... projecting again
    What are you on about?

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    as expected, they are calling Trump a Russian spy after they failed to make their case with the Russians hack

    and they want us to trust the NSA and CIA with our personal information ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    Either Trump is at the inauguration in 9 days time and you're lapping up being bukkake'd by media fags
    This will not stop the inauguration clearly the investigation will not have concluded by then. If any of this is true and to be clear not all of it needs to be it will end in an impeachment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo
    There she goes... projecting again
    What are you on about?
    As I said the Vice President elect will do a fine job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer
    1. Several purported meetings during the 2016 presidential campaign between Trump representatives and Russian officials to discuss matters of mutual interest, including the Russian hacking of the Democratic National Committee and of Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.
    and this is news how ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer
    2. Lucrative deals proposed to Trump by Russian officials -- essentially disguised bribes -- designed to win influence over Trump.
    you mean different lucrative deals propose by big US Defense Corporations to Hillary ? oh no, can't let that happens

    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer
    . Sex videos involving prostitutes with Trump in a 2013 visit to a Moscow hotel. The videos were supposedly prepared as “kompromat,” or compromising material, with the possible goal of blackmailing Trump in the future.
    and this is a scandal how ? after the grab the pussy scandal and all the harrassment allegations, this comes as a total surprise

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    Looks like the libtards been owned again, 4chan admitting they made up and started the getting Russian whores to piss on Trump. Trump is also a germaphobe isn't he?

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    No link so had to verify.

    4chan Claims It Invented the Trump Golden Showers Story


    As news broke of an unverified document detailing supposed Russian dirt on President-elect Donald Trump—including sordid allegations involving urine and prostitutes in Russia—users on the subreddit r/The_Donald and 4chan’s /pol/ forum took a victory lap.

    Not because they found the story funny, but because they claim they planted it as a fake. Proof that it’s all an elaborate 4chan ruse, however, is thin.

    more 4chan Claims It Invented the Trump Golden Showers Story - The Daily Beast

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    Donald Trump watching golden showers should be the least of our concern with the man. Who cares?

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    Unless we see pics or a video of Russian whores pissing on self confessed germaphobe Trump it never happened. It's just another fake news story from the libtard media.

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    The bizarre sex aspect of this story is the most titallating but the least important. The allegations of contact, communications and collusion are far more concerning.

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    Of course the Russians have shit on Trump (excuse the pun).

    You'd have to be a fucking moron if you think he's been going to Russia all those times without the FSB/KGB getting dirt on the fat orange c u n t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    4chan admitting they made up and started the getting Russian whores to piss on Trump.
    So you believe 4chan over statements released by the US government? Good god your stupidity is of epic proportion.

    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    Unless we see pics or a video of Russian whores pissing on self confessed germaphobe Trump it never happened.
    The FBI has an active investigation underway. They do not disclose evidence of an open investigation. Furthermore the information I have read is that Trump watched the women pissing on each other and may have pissed on them.


    Quote Originally Posted by buriramboy
    It's just another fake news story from the libtard media.
    Umm no but you believed the fake news telling you it was fake news. Fucking lemming I am still waiting for you to provide a list of news sources you consider credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    Donald Trump watching golden showers should be the least of our concern with the man. Who cares?
    The implication is that they have compromising material of both a personal and business nature, and that such is Trump's ego he would rather do their bidding than do the decent thing and fall on his sword (preferably after stabbing that fucking mental jesus wheezer in the head with it first).

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