President Donald Trump

**Humbert** · 12-12-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

they are weak, and can't really fight back as they should, so at the end Trump will take them down with him in the mud and win by experience

That's idiotic. They have the votes. He won't get his wall. Americans hate shutdowns and if it happens he will most certainly get the blame. He is going to die a death of a thousand cuts in the next two years.

**Dragonfly** · 12-12-2018, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

That's idiotic. They have the votes. He won't get his wall. Americans hate shutdowns and if it happens he will most certainly get the blame. He is going to die a death of a thousand cuts in the next two years.

projecting again

he is going to shut it down and blame the Democrats for it, and that's how it's going to be remembered

**Humbert** · 12-12-2018, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

projecting again

Again, you confuse 'projecting' with 'speculating'. They have the votes in the house, he does not. That's not speculation, Period.

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

he is going to shut it down and blame the Democrats for it

And it will only resonate with his lumpen, Fox news mesmerized base who know fuck all about what's actually going on.

Why you support him is anyone's guess. I speculate it's his manly animal magnetizm.

**Dragonfly** · 12-12-2018, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

And it will only resonate with his lumpen, Fox news mesmerized base who know fuck all about what's actually going on.

Why you support him is anyone's guess. I speculate it's his manly animal magnetizm.

and you missed my point again, only his haters and fans watch him, most normal people don't

I only support him because his election was meaningful and reflecting of a situation and a reality, he didn't cheat his way like Bush did

he represents the new order of things, while you guys are stuck in the past with that dog Hillary

**Humbert** · 12-12-2018, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

only support him because his election was meaningful and reflecting of a situation and a reality

What reality is that? Lying every single day on every issue? Standing against the free press and standing for murderers like Putin and MBS? Standing against measures that address climate change and standing for coal and big oil? Standing against consumer protection and for corporations getting huge tax breaks while average people pay for a bloated military? Standing against a decent minimum wage? Standing against affordable healthcare? What kind of dystopian vision for the future do you have?

**Cujo** · 12-12-2018, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

projecting again

he is going to shut it down and blame the Democrats for it, and that's how it's going to be remembered

Well the whole world saw and heard him say he'll be proud to shut it down and he won't blame the dem's.
He could end up looking a bit silly now if he tries.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...te-house-video

**Cujo** · 12-12-2018, 11:52 AM

More of that
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...deo-highlights

**harrybarracuda** · 12-12-2018, 11:56 AM

Lie Number..... Oh fuck it, I've lost count.

President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that U.S. authorities had “caught 10 terrorists,” citing it as a reason for why the United States should build a wall on its Mexican border, but four government sources said there was no recent evidence of terrorism suspects being caught along the border.

A senior U.S. counterterrorism official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, said: “We do not have evidence of known or suspected foreign terrorist organizations trying to infiltrate the southern U.S. border.”

Three national security officials agreed with that view, saying they knew of no recent border-related arrests. The three officials also asked not to be identified.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4753423/d...orists-border/

**Dragonfly** · 12-12-2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

What reality is that? Lying every single day on every issue? Standing against the free press and standing for murderers like Putin and MBS? Standing against measures that address climate change and standing for coal and big oil? Standing against consumer protection and for corporations getting huge tax breaks while average people pay for a bloated military? Standing against a decent minimum wage? Standing against affordable healthcare? What kind of dystopian vision for the future do you have?

you still don't get it, stuck in the old sensible world

he is disruptive, that's all people want to see, he is throwing shit and everyone loves him for it in rural America

he is delivering, Putin is laughing every morning when he wakes up and check Trump twitter feed from the evening before

**Humbert** · 12-12-2018, 02:09 PM

So, that's your answer - disruption? Chaos? Utter foolishness.

**Dragonfly** · 12-12-2018, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

So, that's your answer - disruption? Chaos? Utter foolishness.

Trump, Macron, they are doing the exact same thing in a world that is no longer functioning the way it should

they are changing the game rules, the old complex rules do not work anymore, so they make it easy for everyone to understand, with simple concepts and simple vision

is it dangerous, yes it is when your leader is ruthless and dangerous. Tump is incompetent, so he is no danger for anyone, apart superficial scratches for the deep state snowflakes

**bowie** · 12-12-2018, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

he is going to shut it down and blame the Democrats for it, and that's how it's going to be remembered

Yup, Trump'll shut down (partially) the government. Until he gets "more".

So, what'll happen is "un-necessary, non-critical" government workers (hmm... wonder how many there are) will be told to stay home.

Then, Congress will "somehow" satisfy Trump and they will pay the "stay-at-home" non-critical government workers for time missed (to compensate them for being told they weren't necessary). Yes, free vacations for the peons. And there will be laughter and singing throughout the federal government offices at taxpayer expense. Yup - got ya again, Fools...

**David48atTD** · 12-12-2018, 03:53 PM

Google's Sundar Pichai explains to Congress why searching 'idiot' results in Donald Trump pictures

**SKkin** · 12-12-2018, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Schumer was having a great time making a fool of Trump on camera

Manny I could watch that video all day long and not find one sympathetic figure in it. In fact, watching any of the four gives me the urge to toss my cookies.

**harrybarracuda** · 12-12-2018, 04:30 PM

Looks like someone told baldy orange cunto he's been had (again).

The cyberattack on the Marriott hotel chain that collected passport information or other personal details of roughly 500 million guests was part of a Chinese intelligence-gathering effort that hacked health insurers, other hotels and the security clearance files of millions more Americans, according to two people briefed on the preliminary results of the investigation.

The hackers are suspected of working on behalf of the Ministry of State Security. The discovery comes as the Trump administration plans a series of actions targeting China’s trade, cyber and economic policies.

The Justice Department is preparing to announce new indictments against Chinese hackers working for the intelligence and military services, according to four government officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. The Trump administration also plans to declassify intelligence to reveal concerted efforts by Chinese agents, dating to 2014 or earlier, to build a database containing names of executives and U.S. government officials with security clearances.

And the administration is considering an executive order intended to make it harder for Chinese companies to obtain critical telecommunications equipment, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the plans said.

The coordinated moves could be announced within days. They stem from a growing concern within the administration that the 90-day trade truce negotiated between President Donald Trump and President Xi Jinping in Buenos Aires, Argentina, two weeks ago may do little to change China’s behavior — including coercing American companies to hand over valuable technology if they seek to enter the Chinese market, as well as the theft of industrial secrets on behalf of state-owned companies.

https://www.seattletimes.com/busines...lans-response/

**Humbert** · 12-12-2018, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by bowie

Then, Congress will "somehow" satisfy Trump

What will satisfy Trump and what what he is demanding are two different things. Last year he settled for 1.6 billion which was far short of the amount required for his wall. In fact the bill allowed only 38 million for planning and design of the wall. This year he will be forced to settle for something close to the same thing. Far short of the 25 million he is demanding. Of course he may bring a check to the table for the balance from Mexico.

**Maanaam** · 12-12-2018, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Lie Number..... Oh fuck it, I've lost count.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4753423/d...orists-border/

And it wasn't a throw-away comment in passing, he made the comment, emphasised it and repeated it.

**bowie** · 12-12-2018, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

What will satisfy Trump and what what he is demanding are two different things.

But of course. Naught but a game. A story. A tale. A fable. They - the politicians are just playin' to the crowd.

The "final" outcome was more than likely decided prior to the mid-terms. Quite a soap opera, eh?

**crackerjack101** · 12-12-2018, 09:13 PM

Brilliant.

http://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocr...5136011549310/

**happynz** · 12-12-2018, 10:15 PM

^

"hookers who pee on your face 'til it stings..."

**misskit** · 13-12-2018, 12:36 AM

^^Made me laugh.

Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 years in prison

NEW YORK — A contrite Michael Cohen on Wednesday received three years in prison for a series of tax fraud and lying charges, sending another former Donald Trump associate to jail.

Cohen's sentence is not as large as the four-plus years that federal prosecutors in New York wanted, but it nonetheless stands out as the biggest punishment to date tied to special counsel Robert Mueller's sprawling investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

MORE https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...prison-1060060

**Humbert** · 13-12-2018, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by bowie

The "final" outcome was more than likely decided prior to the mid-terms

You might enjoy the contrails thread too.

**tomcat** · 13-12-2018, 05:59 AM

...this just in: https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...TWEeuWc1S7vAOs

**Humbert** · 13-12-2018, 10:30 AM

Four of Trump's inner circle now in jail. Fourteen Trump campaign associates identified who had contacts with Russian intelligence during the campaign. Mueller connecting the dots from Trump's real estate interests in Russia to his campaign and the wikileaks e-mail dumps. The noose is tightening around his neck. The Mueller report will be damning. There will be more revelations and indictments but Trump will not be impeached because Democratic leadership understands that the Senate Republicans will protect him from removal from office and they know that the political risk of a humiliated Trump who survives impeachment and bent on vengeance is a danger to be avoided at all costs.

**Dragonfly** · 13-12-2018, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Four of Trump's inner circle now in jail. Fourteen Trump campaign associates identified who had contacts with Russian intelligence during the campaign. Mueller connecting the dots from Trump's real estate interests in Russia to his campaign and the wikileaks e-mail dumps. The noose is tightening around his neck. The Mueller report will be damning. There will be more revelations and indictments but Trump will not be impeached because Democratic leadership understands that the Senate Republicans will protect him from removal from office and they know that the political risk of a humiliated Trump who survives impeachment and bent on vengeance is a danger to be avoided at all costs.

ok, so what was the whole point of the investigation then? clean up the swamp around Trumpette? not really useful at the end, if he survives it all

it's not like we didn't know he was a corrupt MF, and he won't be the last

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