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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Not considering the other choice.
    Hillary! Emails! The Kenyan! ...... ad nauseam

    The pathetic life of a troll, recycling old conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Not considering the other choice.

    GOP had plenty of other choices, they chose trump and sold themselves out. Get over the HRC obsession, you brain dead lemming

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    Well said Elche, one of the best posts ever made on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Well said Elche, one of the best posts ever made on this thread.
    He forgot -
    But.....but...... BENGHAZI !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The point he misses is that Trump repeats his hateful attacks every single day in rallies. Crowds chant verbal abuse and threaten reporters at every rally. Vendors sell hate images. The atmosphere is hysterical with toxicity.
    Humbert ... as in this direct report ... http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3836256 (President Donald Trump)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    Humbert ... as in this direct report ... http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3836256 (President Donald Trump)
    Yes, I remember your post. I couldn't access the original report on the link supplied by Harry. I assume you posted the total article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    https://ab.co/2Q014Tv

    The fact that more than 10,000 people were there on a rainy Tuesday night left me with the impression the looming blue wave will still face serious red opposition and surely that's a story Republicans want to be told.

    And yes, I can confirm it's true what the President has said before, that people were queueing outside and watching on screens — even in the rain.
    yep, trump's campaigning hard in the final days before the midterm election.

    not much talk of a blue wave anymore, though republicans will still need very high turnout compared to democrats to hold onto the house.

    of course, trump's hard work out on the campaign trail is only helping republican candidates this month as the race for the house has tightened:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...house_map.html



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    Trump does little else other than politicking. He spends a fortune of taxpayer money on his rallies for security etc. He is corrupt to the core. Nothing but a divider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    Hillary! Emails! The Kenyan! ...... ad nauseam

    The pathetic life of a troll, recycling old conspiracy theories.

    Not recycling anything she is in it for her own gain, she could give a hoot about the U.S., would sell the country out in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    GOP had plenty of other choices, they chose trump and sold themselves out. Get over the HRC obsession, you brain dead lemming

    Brain dead lemming? Your the one one who post the same drivel post after post after post.

    I was not in fact of Trump and did not vote for him in the primaries, Rubio was my man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    she could give a hoot about the U.S., would sell the country out in a heartbeat.
    I guess she has something in common with your cheeto in chief.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Brain dead lemming?
    You are the personification of a brain dead lemming. A brain dead brainwashed lemming who simply parrots talking points.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Your the one one who post the same drivel post after post after post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Trump does little else other than politicking. He spends a fortune of taxpayer money on his rallies for security etc. He is corrupt to the core. Nothing but a divider.
    tbf, what you and elche are saying about trump being a danger to democracy and to the country is identical to what those on the right wing fringe said about obama for 8 years.

    looks like trump will win in 2020 (no formidable candidate has stepped up yet), so there will be 6 more years of "warnings about the dangers of trump"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    looks like trump will win in 2020 because no formidable candidate has stepped up yet,
    The actual argument you are making stated with more clarity. An obvious failure of logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The actual argument you are making stated with more clarity. An obvious failure of logic.
    at the moment, looks like trump will win in 2020.

    better?

    for those who love politics, after the midterms finish, candidates for 2020 will start campaigning in iowa and nh, etc. this winter.

    shall be interesting to see who on the democratic side the mainstream media like and focus on.


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    as you probably know humbert, 206 counties voted for obama twice and then went for trump.

    they voted for trump because they like the issues he ran on.

    as president he has done his best to implement his agenda.

    logically, most of those voters will vote for him again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    An obvious failure of logic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    make america great: focusing on america and taking back the govt from the chamber of commerce boys and make better trade deals, focus on the economy/jobs and protect the border (wages will go up for those without a high school degree when the border is closed) and stop getting into stupid wars.

    trump promised all of that on the campaign trail and unlike most politicians, he's been doing with his mandate exactly what he promised (making progress on all fronts).


    https://ballotpedia.org/Pivot_Counti...from_2008-2016

    The counties that voted Obama-Obama-Trump from 2008-2016

    https://www.cnbc.com/heres-a-map-of-...rom-democrats/
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    ^ I don't really care what you think. You know, you're like the ugly, annoying girl at a party that no one really wants to talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Trump does little else other than politicking. He spends a fortune of taxpayer money on his rallies for security etc.
    And playing fucking Golf - something the GOP used to consider a heinous crime for a president, the hypocritical wankers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    ^ I don't really care what you think. You know, you're like the ugly, annoying girl at a party that no one really wants to talk to.
    "ugly annoying girl"?

    ad hom, humbert.

    really?

    weak.very.very.weak.

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    Seems pretty much unanimous, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    [The poster] no one really wants to talk to.
    The wide-ranging spectrum of posters who agree on this is really quite remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    You know, you're like the ugly, annoying girl at a party that no one really wants to talk to
    This.

    And even so much as glance in her direction and she becomes all bunny-boiler obsessive and shit: demanding to know where you've been, who you're talking to...

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    Another shitfest with nothing worth looking at re the OP.
    Ffs, grow up!

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    Re Norton's request to debate rather the yell at each other, here is an opinion piece which is well researched,
    neutral and, importantly, just interpreting the facts.

    For those who consider ALL Trump supporters dumb-assed cretins who are the detritus of the voting public, you really don't
    understand the other half of the USA voting public.

    ---

    Betting the farm on Trump

    Dom Marchese used to be a Democrat, but voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
    Two years later, here's how he's feeling ahead of crucial midterm elections for the President.



    Dominic Marchese voted for Donald Trump in 2016

    It's that time of year when the trees are turning from green to gold and the air is sharp. There's been a break in the rain and that's good news for Dom.
    On clear days like this, he and the other farmers in north-eastern Ohio can resume the busy work of harvest time, in that precious window that separates the good years from the bad.


    Before setting out to bale the last of the hay, Dom ambles over to feed his chickens and the turkeys he's fattening for Thanksgiving. Like most things here on Manna Farms, you get the sense this has been Dom's routine for a long time.



    Yet America feels like a divided place.

    The one agreement most can reach is that in Washington, things are a long way from routine.

    Elected by people like Dom, Donald Trump has kept the world gripped since 2016, and with midterm elections a little over a week away, politics is front of mind for voters.

    Although on Dom's farm, more than 500 kilometres from DC, today is like any other.
    He's been an organic beef farmer since 1971, waking up every morning to a postcard-perfect setting.



    Now 76, Dom says he'll never retire, but slowly things are becoming less easy than they used to be.
    Changing too are Dom's political beliefs


    Two years of Trump

    Scattered around the farm are reminders of a life that's never been far removed from politics.
    Yard signs gather cobwebs in dusty corners of Dom's barns. A small collection of campaign buttons hangs on the wall of his kitchen, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama among them.



    Dom used to be a Democrat after all.
    But two years ago, in search of a president who was going to shake things up, he voted for Donald Trump.

    The ABC first met Dom in the weeks leading up to the 2016 election.
    He told us then that American politicians weren't working for the people.

    "They go down there to work for us, they end up voting for the measures lobbyists work for, so not in our best interests," he said at the time.
    Donald Trump's talk of renegotiating trade deals resonated with farmers like Dom. So much so he proudly joined a supporters' group and hung a "Farmers for Trump" banner from one of his barns.



    ^ The banner isn't there anymore.

    There are no red Make America Great Again caps to be seen either. In fact Dom is wearing the same camouflage-pattern cap as when we visited two years ago.

    Is Dom still happy with his choice to vote Trump?
    "I absolutely am," he says.

    "The guy just has balls that we haven't seen in a president, and not being a politician, he doesn't care.
    "And I don't think you can buy him, to change his mind on something.
    "I think we're better off right now."


    Reaping what you sow

    The midterm elections will be the biggest electoral test yet for Donald Trump and the Republican party.
    Polls show Democrats are likely to take back the House of Representatives.

    It's a long shot, but if the backlash at the voting booth is large enough, the Senate could turn as well.

    A bad day for Donald Trump on November 6 will frustrate his legislative agenda in the run-up to 2020. A catastrophe for Republicans could allow Democrats to raise the spectre of impeachment.

    The outcome will set the tone for the next two years in American national politics.


    It's midterm time in Washington, but harvest time here in Ohio

    But here in Ohio, one of a few swing states that put Donald Trump in the White House, the machinations of Washington feel a long, long way away.

    Dom says rain is on the way. Tomorrow perhaps.

    That means right now his neighbours will be busy. It's harvest time for one of them, soybean farmer Jeff Maygar.
    Like Dom, Jeff used to run cattle on these fields.



    These soybeans are headed to the Japanese market. Food grade, so they'll likely end up as tofu.
    Directing his produce to Japan has kept him largely unaffected by Donald Trump's trade war.
    Jeff voted for Donald Trump in 2016, "reluctantly".

    "Some of his twittering at first alarmed me. Put it this way, I think that Trump's crazy like a fox," he says.
    But he's now happy to see a straight talker in the White House.

    According to Jeff, Donald Trump's policies have greatly helped business.

    He says there's more work available and tax cuts mean employers can pay their lowest-paid workers a higher hourly rate.
    He doesn't see American voters turning away from Donald Trump and the Republican Party anytime soon.

    What's changed since the election? It's not like the Democrats have changed policy that would change anybody's mind," he says.
    But things have changed elsewhere, and not for the better.

    Just half-an-hour's drive away in the suburbs of Lordstown, despite a generally strong economy and low unemployment nationally, people are struggling.

    Roughly two years ago, Donald Trump told people here: "Don't sell your homes."
    He was bringing jobs back, or so he promised.
    But changing demand means the huge GM factory at the heart of this community has cut two shifts since the day the President was sworn into office.

    More than 3,000 workers were laid off. Many are still trying to find work and GM has moved parts of its production to Mexico.
    David Green is the head of the local auto workers' union, and he's frustrated with the President.




    "He's saying promises made, promises kept," David says.

    Well we haven't seen that. Which promises did he keep? I don't know. Nothing's gotten better for the working people in this community, only worse.

    He said up to 40 per cent of the workers he represents voted for Donald Trump.
    Now?

    "There's quite a few people who have changed their views. I'm sure most of the folks won't want to talk about it. If I vote for my guy and then he does bad stuff ... I'm not going to say I made a mistake, it's hard for people to do that," he says.

    They're the kind of voters that could be among a potential "blue wave" of voters predicted to support the Democrats at the midterms.

    ---

    There is more ... search ABC betting-the-farm-on-trump/10422882
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    “Someone is sitting in the shade today because someone planted a tree a long time ago”

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    Seems pretty much unanimous, though.



    The wide-ranging spectrum of posters who agree on this is really quite remarkable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elche View Post
    Hillary! Emails! The Kenyan! ...... ad nauseam

    The pathetic life of a troll, recycling old conspiracy theories.
    The Russians stole the election for Trumpo, oh wait that's the Democrats loons

    each camp deserve each other for being so retarded and easy to manipulate,

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