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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    I see Mr President is now in Germany telling them they are controlled by Russia because they buy their gas from Russia.

    So where would they get it Mr President? Ah I see you would sell it to them for 3 times the price.

    And Europe is not spending enough on defense. Defense against who? Oh yes their controller Russia the manufactured enemy.

    But thats beside the point we make over 50% of the worlds weapons and we must sell them to someone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ve-of-russians

    Would youthen hen like to see NATO disbanded rather than Europe pay their fair share? The point he is making is they are not paying their fair share of the cost to maintain NAFTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    The point he is making is they are not paying their fair share of the cost to maintain NAFTA.
    OH my god the stupid never stops does it. So NATO is maintaining NAFTA now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    This is an English language forum, it's fair to expect posters on it to use intelligible English.

    Your English is not. It's fucking atrocious. Frankly, as a native speaker, you ought to be ashamed of yourself and that you aren't and clearly have no interest in improving yourself doesn't say much for either your intellect or capacity as a person.



    Oh yeah, well my next door neighbors dog is best friends with my cousins Aunt who lives on the ranch and last week she emailed me regarding rhubarb recipes.

    So I'm far more intimately acquainted with the facts than you.
    That was a bit of stupidity,don’t you think. If you don’t believe me just come out and say it.

    And for your high and mighty rant about my English,again I say get over it,it won’t change anytime soon just because you don’t like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    OH my god the stupid never stops does it. So NATO is maintaining NAFTA now.

    So so sorry sir,I meant to say NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    That was a bit of stupidity,don’t you think
    Indeed it was. In fact it was satirical and intended to be as much: mocking a ridiculous and unsubstantiated assertion by an anonymous clown on a forum that he is especially acquainted to the facts and / or situation.

    Ps. I learnt that during my Special Forces training.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    And for your high and mighty rant about my English,again I say get over it,it won’t change anytime soon just because you don’t like it.
    Yes I know, and if you could understand English you'd realise that's exactly what I said: you're apparently happy to come across as an ignorant and semi-literate buffoon.

    However you can't then legitimately complain when others mock you for it when you post unintelligible gibberish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I believe the witnesses said exactly what the prosecutors wanted them to say,is that perjury,I donít know.
    It's not perjury. It's just you having an opinion about what you think might have happened based on something you heard without knowing the facts or actually being at there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    I see Mr President is now in Germany telling them they are controlled by Russia because they buy their gas from Russia.

    So where would they get it Mr President? Ah I see you would sell it to them for 3 times the price.

    And Europe is not spending enough on defense. Defense against who? Oh yes their controller Russia the manufactured enemy.

    But thats beside the point we make over 50% of the worlds weapons and we must sell them to someone.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ve-of-russians
    LAUGHING STOCK https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/674356...ence-spending/Germany’s soldiers forced to use BROOMSTICK for a gun as Donald Trump blasts Angela Merkel over NATO spending

    The German army uses broomsticks instead of guns because of budget going to immigrants and other things. They made a commitment to fund NATO (tear down that wall Mr. Gorbachev stuff) at 2% of GNP they only pay 1% because they are liars and cheats. Trump asked them to pay up or face the music. Having to pay for an army with real guns instead of broomsticks. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/674356...ence-spending/

    It's not like Germans don't like guns or make weapons. They are a leading exporter of arms. (The Germans could buy their own weapons)
    Germany's cabinet approved record-breaking arms exports

    https://www.dw.com/en/germanys-cabin...rts/a-42282068
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y
    The German army uses broomsticks instead of guns because of budget going to immigrants and other things
    Fake News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    The proscutor's eyewitnesses perjured themselves, the jury wrongfully convicted and the judge should have declared a mistrial....is that what you're saying
    The first trial ended up in a plea bargain for which the ranchers went to jail and served their sentence. The second trial which was started by a US Attorney who was disbarred fired and is getting mental health help now is the one for which they were pardoned. Which trial are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by birding View Post
    I see Mr President is now in Germany telling them they are controlled by Russia because they buy their gas from Russia.
    Colbert had a great zinger for this one: "Man Controlled By Russia Says Germany Is Controlled By Russia".


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    To be fair one has to ask why Merkel is such a liar and cheat. She says that other spending "touchy feely stuff is just as important as guns to the Russians and ISIS and Syria and it is Germany's contributions in these areas that should be taken into considerations when figuring the NATO military budget.

    Low military spending in Europe has long raised concerns in the White House, with President Trump taking to Twitter in March to publicly accuse Germany of owing the United States “vast sums of money” for NATO. At the time, Berlin rejected his claim while also questioning his understanding of NATO finances. Germany has long demanded that other investments, such as development aid, should also be included in defense expenditure calculations because they may help to make the world safer, too.


    I think such calculations mostly are trying to hide the fact that the German army uses broomsticks instead of guns, and their subs and tanks are broken.

    Read the below article and see what you think.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a2522be805bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    To be fair one has to ask why Merkel is such a liar and cheat
    Because she has been taking lessons from Trump?

    And she's right... Germany doesn't 'owe the US for NATO'. Nobody does. That's another Trump Twitter lie for the consumption of his base.

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    It occurred to me that not everyone would have done due diligence in researching just why the NATO allies owe money to NATO such is the vehement anti US sentiment in many internet forums and some may think it is Trumps idea to berate wealthy nations for trying to weasel out of their commitments.

    At the Wales Summit in 2014, NATO Allies pledged to invest more and better in defence – to stop the cuts, move towards spending 2% of GDP on defence by 2024, and to spend 20% of that on major equipment. We are making progress. Over the last three years, European Allies and Canada have spent almost 46 billion US dollars more on defence.

    And in effect, the dependence of European NATO allies on the United States has further increased since the end of the Cold War, not decreased. As a percentage of GDP, defense spending by European allies fell from an average of 2 percent in 1995–1999 to 1.5 percent in 2014, while that of the United States went up from 3.1 percent to 3.4 percent in the same period.5 In 1995, U.S. defense expenditure accounted for 59 percent of overall NATO defense spending; in 2015, the rate is expected to be above 70 percent. It is true that not all U.S. defense spending is dedicated to security in Europe—NATO’s original remit—yet it is clear that European NATO allies have fallen further behind on the issue of financial burden sharing in the alliance.

    The Politics of 2 Percent: NATO and the Security Vacuum in Europe - Carnegie Europe - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    So so sorry sir,I meant to say NATO.
    The point is that the US is chucking money at all these countries to maintain its presence there FOR ITS OWN INTERESTS.

    So if it doesn't like what other NATO members are paying, then it can fuck off.

    To be honest, I doubt any member would trust baldy orange cunto to adhere to the NATO treaty anyway. He's a useless orange tub of lard with the IQ of a mosquito that was starved of oxygen at birth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    the US is chucking money at all these countries to maintain its presence there FOR ITS OWN INTERESTS.
    Correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    So if it doesn't like what other NATO members are paying, then it can fuck off.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    As a percentage of GDP, defense spending by European allies fell from an average of 2 percent in 1995–1999 to 1.5 percent in 2014, while that of the United States went up from 3.1 percent to 3.4 percent in the same period.
    Well Mark you have been telling some whoppers the last few days. Before I dive into this quote up here I would like to highlight a few of your comments/claims over the last few days. Let us begin.

    http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3792712 (President Donald Trump)

    In the above post you made the absurd claim that CNN gets it legal opinions from Europe and not experts in the US. You also claimed that former special prosocuter Ken Starr was a personal friend of yours. I destroyed your post here;

    http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3792718 (President Donald Trump)

    Earlier you also claimed to have been a professor of Economics at an all black college in the US. The problem with that is that you do not even understand the most basic economic concepts that would be taught starting in ECON 101 in any American community college. You made several absurd comments about Trump and his trade war.

    Harry took you apart here;

    http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3790145 (President Donald Trump)

    You then also went on to without any facts claim falsely that Trump set some sort of record regarding the economy. Once again proving a remarkable lack of understanding of economic concept that any first year university student should be able to grasp. I took you apart once again here;

    http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3790562 (President Donald Trump)

    I can see why you have all of us on ignore. It is because you want a free reign to post up fake news and propaganda. If that is not the reason then you are an utter numpty.

    Now back to this quote...

    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    As a percentage of GDP, defense spending by European allies fell from an average of 2 percent in 1995–1999 to 1.5 percent in 2014, while that of the United States went up from 3.1 percent to 3.4 percent in the same period.
    The US is not increasing its defense spending due to the fact that it is carrying NATO. That is complete nonsense. The US raised it's defense budget for solely its own reasons that had nothing to due with NATO. Many because Republicans are fear mongers who look to everything outside of their borders as a threat that and the defense lobby is pretty good at getting more money out of them. So you can buy the latest fabricated lie that came out of your right wing media propaganda machine but as usual you are just being conned.
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    I was thinking maybe you and the European experts on CNN (If you never been to Asia you would not know that CNN uses European experts on the international broadcasts) didn't know what Trump is doing. He has a meeting soon with Putin. What is Putin afraid of? He is afraid of Germany and other European nations armed with real weapons (not broomsticks) so he would not be able to annex other countries any time he wants. He is afraid of an energy independent Germany and other European countries. This is why Trump is hyping 3% increase in military spending and getting rid of a Russian gas line. Now do you get it? Or are you part of the Russian troll farmers trying to assign bad motives to the American President for countering Russian aggression? Think for a second. Would it not make sense for Russian trolls to discredit increases in NATO military spending and elimination of Russian pipelines? We all know there are Russian Troll Farms, right? Do they only exist to slander poor Mrs. Clinton?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    He has a meeting soon with Putin.
    Yep your stupid orange god is going into a meeting with Putin with nothing but translators. Why? The reason is that he wants to tell the lemmings like you whatever he wants with no way to fact check. Basically he wants a ticket to lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    What is Putin afraid of?
    He is not afraid at all he is winning this exchange just like fat boy did.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    He is afraid of Germany and other European nations armed with real weapons (not broomsticks)
    What remarkable stupidity here. The Bundeswehr is one of the best equipped nations on earth. Your stupid broomstick theory came from a British tabloid the Sun that is owned by Rubert Murdock and is known for posting fake news.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    Now do you get it?
    Get what? That you are a lemming that is spouting propaganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    I was thinking maybe you and the European experts on CNN (If you never been to Asia you would not know that CNN uses European experts on the international broadcasts) didn't know what Trump is doing. He has a meeting soon with Putin. What is Putin afraid of? He is afraid of Germany and other European nations armed with real weapons (not broomsticks) so he would not be able to annex other countries any time he wants. He is afraid of an energy independent Germany and other European countries. This is why Trump is hyping 3% increase in military spending and getting rid of a Russian gas line. Now do you get it? Or are you part of the Russian troll farmers trying to assign bad motives to the American President for countering Russian aggression? Think for a second. Would it not make sense for Russian trolls to discredit increases in NATO military spending and elimination of Russian pipelines? We all know there are Russian Troll Farms, right? Do they only exist to slander poor Mrs. Clinton?
    You fucking idiot.

    Putin isn't afraid of Germany. He's simply an old school Soviet expansionist that's pissed off with the fact that since he invaded Ukraine, everyone else is taking steps to ensure that he doesn't feel safe trying it on with anyone else.

    As for selling gas to Europe, he needs them as much as they need him; his economy is shite.

    As snubby says, US military spending is obscenely stupid and aimed at lining the pockets of the politicians that vote for it - most likely because they all have shares in military contractors or they're looking for a nice job post-politics.

    Just because the US is fucking dumb enough to squander stupid amounts of money on its military doesn't mean everybody else has to.

    P.S. ALL international news stations use local expertise to provide context, you bumbling fool.

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    I'm sure someone told Merkel Germany's submarines are all out of order. Maybe they should talk to Thailand. The litany of disrepair continues through fighter planes, tanks, helicopters and ships lamed by bad planning and a lack of spare parts. Air force pilots are unable to train as their aircraft are grounded for maintenance for much of the year, the report notes. Germany is far from the only European country ill equipped for a military escalation, but the country's parliamentary commissioner now says that the situation has gotten so bad that Germany's armed forces are “not deployable for collective defense.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.46b8cb002ec5

    The Russian trolls would not want you to know this. I imagine they would like a pretty picture painted of Germany's defense. But that's now how the wall got torn down. If you all remember it was because Reagan outspent the USSR and broke the back of that totalitarian dictatorship that now became Russia. Trump is doing the same thing but you can understand why all the troll farmers are squealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    The Russian trolls would not want you to know this.
    The Russian trolls are busy polishing the turds of your orange god.

    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    Trump is doing the same thing but you can understand why all the troll farmers are squealing.
    It will not take more than a few months of his stupid tarrifs to tank the economy to make a fool of you. I will wait.

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    “The United States was not being treated fairly, but now we are,” the president said at a news conference, after the NATO leaders held an emergency meeting to address Mr. Trump’s complaints. “I believe in NATO.”

    Trump news conference just now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark45y View Post
    “The United States was not being treated fairly, but now we are,” the president said
    Another yuuuge problem trump solved in afternoon of deal making. Good on him. How's jared coming with that peace in the mideast thing coming?

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    Jesus, look what showed up in my email today. Why? Trip to America?

    https://action.donaldjtrump.com/main...nt=gop_surveys

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