Thread: President Donald Trump

^ The parallels are real. The reality of it is scary; That Fox talking heads can be so nauseatingly disingenuous and their audience so utterly dumb makes me despair for the world.
Can't blame the NK people because they've been brainwashed since birth or otherwise have very real fears of reprisal if they don't toe the line.
US rednecks have no excuse.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

US rednecks have no excuse.

No they don't and it just disgusts me that so many are so stupid. My hope for humanity is at an all time low. I am sickened by my countrymen. Those who are still in support of Drumpf to me are traitors to everything it means to be an American. They are the opposite of patriots.

^I personally find Trump to be utterly loathsome. However, not being up to speed on the intricacies of American politics, I see nobody in the wings who is poised to beat him in his run for a second term, if indeed he chooses to run. Who's going to beat him, Snub? And please don't say Bernie, who's far too old.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Who's going to beat him, Snub? And please don't say Bernie, who's far too old.

I was not aware that there is a law that prevents him from running and trust me he intends to run. That said there are plenty of worthy contenders. Two years is a long way away and the fact is that we can not count on the fact that he will still be the president. This November is going to be the first litmus test and it is not looking good for the GOP and this boarder crisis is only making it worse for them.

That said I want to point something out. Obama was an unknown before he came out of nowhere and beat Clinton, nobody knew who he was two years before the 2008 election. Name recognition means nothing at this point and I think that people like Corey Booker and Kamala Harris could be strong candidates. Biden will be a front runner for sure if he runs. But at the end of the day I will stick with my choice of Bernie Sanders. That said I think all of them could beat trump. He was not a strong candidate to begin with, it was a low turn out election with a weak and despised opponent and he still lost the popular vote and barely eked out a electoral victory by less than 40,000 vote across just 4 states.

If he makes it to 2020 I think the overwhelming majority of the American population will not just show him the door they will kick his ass through it.

This is a good article listing the candidates...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6fb6d49d9a06

^Thanks for the article; hadn't seen it before. Interesting times ahead..............

For a few years now I've rated Elizabeth Warren. And each time I hear her speak, whether at a committee hearing or in the house, my respect grows.

^My sister worked for her, and was most impressed. That said, what about the Native American flap? Could she overcome that?

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Interesting times ahead..............

Look at November first. I personally can not wait. If the dems take the house Drumpf will be impeached. That won't necessarily get him out but it will be a start and he would be a lame duck for the last two years. If the dems can take the Senate then hold on to your seats!

Originally Posted by Maanaam

For a few years now I've rated Elizabeth Warren.

I do really like her but I just think she has views that are very close to Bernie's and so it will be hard for her to get separation from him in a primary and Bernie has a loyal group of support.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

That said, what about the Native American flap? Could she overcome that?

Well Trump overcame being a serial and compulsive liar...

So probably not. For some reason Dems / women appear to be held to a higher standard.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

My sister worked for her, and was most impressed.

On an intelectual scale, she makes Trump look like a kindergarten kid with special needs.
Mind you, that's not hard.
But she is smart and does have her heart in a good place.

Eric Holder and Terry McAuliffe maybe.......

.....maybe not.........


...i dunno.......

Carry on.......

Originally Posted by Maanaam

For a few years now I've rated Elizabeth Warren. And each time I hear her speak, whether at a committee hearing or in the house, my respect grows.

i'm with her on just about every issue, but....

she'll be 71 on election day....and if she doesn't take a DNA test to back up her claims, she'll never gain serious traction.

The Absurdity of Trump Officials Eating at Mexican Restaurants During an Immigration Crisis


In September of 2016, in the run-up to the Presidential election, Marco Gutierrez, a founder of the online activist group Latinos for Trump, appeared on MSNBC to discuss what he saw as a looming immigration threat at America’s southern border. “My culture is a very dominant culture,” Gutierrez, who was born in Mexico, said. “And it’s imposing and it’s causing problems. If you don’t do something about it, you’re going to have taco trucks on every corner.” Gutierrez meant this as a warning, a dire vision of what the future would look like were Donald Trump to fail in his Presidential bid. But Hillary Clinton’s supporters quickly reclaimed the idea as a welcome, and appetizing, possibility. At a campaign stop, Clinton said, “I personally think a taco truck on every corner sounds absolutely delicious.”

Last year, C.H.D. Expert, a hospitality-industry analysis firm, identified Mexican restaurants as the second most popular kind of dining establishment in the nation, and estimated that they make up about nine per cent of the half million or so restaurants in the United States—more than the total number of pizzerias. Countless additional restaurants bear signs of Mexico’s culinary influence: you can find fajitas at Chili’s, guacamole and chips at the Cheesecake Factory, churros at Disney World, quesadillas repurposed into burger buns at Applebee’s, margaritas at LongHorn Steakhouse, Baja-style fish tacos at hipster brunch spots, and nachos at every sports arena in America. Even the ubiquitous Caesar salad is Mexican—it was invented at a restaurant in Tijuana. In many respects, you might say, Mexican food is American food.

So it may have been pure statistical inevitability that caused Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security, to eat at a Mexican restaurant this week, in the midst of the nightmarish crisis at the border caused by the Trump Administration’s family-separation policy. On Wednesday evening, Nielsen arrived at MXDC Cocina Mexicana, a restaurant in Washington, D.C., that promises “classic Mexican cuisine with a modern touch.” It seemed almost unbelievable, on the day we heard a wrenching audio recording of migrant children crying out for their parents, that Nielsen, the chief enforcer of the Administration’s immigration policy, could be out in the world having dinner in a neighborhood restaurant like a normal person, let alone enjoying food from the very region the policy targets. As Nielsen and a dining companion sat in the restaurant for what a D.H.S. spokesperson later described as a “work dinner,” she was recognized by a patron at a nearby table, who covertly snapped a photograph, and sent it to friends in the hopes of inspiring a protest.

In short order, a cadre of demonstrators from the D.C. branch of the Democratic Socialists of America filed into the restaurant and stood between the tables adjacent to Nielsen’s. “How can you enjoy a Mexican dinner as you’re deporting and imprisoning tens of thousands of people who come here seeking asylum?” one shouted, before leading the crowd in a rumbling chant of “Shame! Shame!” “In a Mexican restaurant, of all places,” another cried. “The fucking gall!” In the blurry darkness of a video from inside the restaurant, posted to Facebook Live, Nielsen and her dining companion appear to be sharing an order of guacamole. The protest went on for more than twenty minutes, while Nielsen—shielded by two Secret Service agents—kept her head ducked low.

Some observers suggested that Nielsen’s decision to dine at a Mexican restaurant seemed like an intentional provocation, a trollish act consistent with the ethos of spite and petulance that guides much of what happens inside the Trump Administration. (See, too: Melania Trump’s Zara jacket, or Ivanka Trump’s smiling Instagram of her son.) This suspicion was compounded when, the day after Nielsen’s meal, it was revealed that Stephen Miller—the senior White House adviser responsible for the Trump Administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy—had dined on Sunday night at Espita Mezcaleria, a buzzy Mexican spot in Washington’s hip Shaw neighborhood that, according to The Washingtonian, serves the best chips and salsa in town. (The New York Post reported that a customer at the restaurant, spotting Miller, cried out, “Whoever thought we’d be in a restaurant with a real-life fascist begging [for] money for new cages?”) In the midst of the Presidential campaign, which he kicked off by asserting that Mexican immigrants are rapists, Donald Trump celebrated Cinco de Mayo by tweeting a photo that showed him grinning and giving the thumbs-up in front of a tortilla bowl, with the caption “I love Hispanics!” Perhaps Miller, known for his smug embrace of xenophobic politics, was making a similarly sneering gesture.

MXDC is a slick, anodyne restaurant, one of a half-dozen or so East Coast establishments affiliated with the celebrity chef Todd English, who rose to fame in the nineties making Italian food in Boston. Neither English nor the restaurant’s owner, nor the bulk of its clientele, is Latino, but—as in so many restaurants in America—most of the staff is. Indeed, Nielsen and Miller would have been hard-pressed to find any restaurant, serving any kind of food, that didn’t rely on the labor of the same individuals their immigration policies seek to expel at all costs. Latino workers are the backbone of the restaurant world, at bistros, pizzerias, sushi counters, and rotisseries across the country—many of them are Central American, like the majority of the migrant families being torn apart in recent weeks. (And, it’s worth noting, many of those workers are undocumented: the hospitality sector is one of the largest employers of undocumented labor in the country.)

To many people—the protesters and hecklers, the demonstrators gathered in front of ICE and D.H.S. offices across the country during the past week, the horrified parents watching the news and holding their children close—it seems impossible that Nielsen and Miller could miss the through line that connects this Administration’s cruel, dehumanizing policies toward Latino migrants and the real lives of Latino people who already live and work in this country. It seems as if it would require high-wire moral acrobatics, Jedi-level compartmentalization, to enjoy the fruits of Latin American culture, and labor, at this time. But for many other Americans, including those leading our government, there is a simple, reflexive disconnect between cultural product and cultural producer, between policy and people. “Everyone hates Mexicans, but everyone at the same time loves Mexican food,” the Mexican-American writer Gustavo Arellano told the Huffington Post, in 2016. “When they’re eating it, they’re able to disassociate it from the people who made it, or who picked it or slaughtered those cows.” Shortly after Marco Gutierrez issued his taco-truck warning, a Bay Area online magazine asked him what sort of food establishment he would be happy to see on every American corner. “Uhh . . . Probably taco trucks,” he said. “What?!” the interviewer responded. “Yeah,” he said. “Taco trucks are fine with me.”

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/an...-border-crisis

if i had to bet at this moment, i'd put money on kamala harris

mitch landrieu could be on the dem ticket in 2020

Originally Posted by uncle junior

Eric Holder and Terry McAuliffe maybe.......

IMO both of them are too toxic due to past associations.

the dems shouldn't blow it in 2020 by giving the opposition an opportunity to fire up the base with BS that resonates with the rubes....and the republican base hates clinton and obama.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Eric Holder and Terry McAuliffe

If they run they will be the first out of the primary.

Originally Posted by raycarey

kamala harris

Ya her and Cory Booker could be the shock candidates the same way Obama came out of nowhere.

Trump gave a press conference where he once again tried to link illegal immigrants to crime by lying and distortion as a racist dog whistle to his base.

Oh, and he also autographed some pics of dead people because he’s a shameless and malignant narcissist.

Originally Posted by raycarey

she'll be 71 on election day.

I hope my wife looks that good at 71! So she'll be about the same age as Trump was...hardly a disqualifier.

Joe Biden/Kamala Harris would be unbeatable.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^I personally find Trump to be utterly loathsome. However, not being up to speed on the intricacies of American politics, I see nobody in the wings who is poised to beat him in his run for a second term, if indeed he chooses to run. Who's going to beat him, Snub? And please don't say Bernie, who's far too old.

Does it really matter?
As they're all one and the same - always have been and always will be.

And yet, there's this historically insidious persistence that there is a difference between any of the cunts.

The dumbing down is the favourite and certainly not recognized - quite obvious.

^ First time, but FOJ.

Originally Posted by CSFFan

Joe Biden/Kamala Harris would be unbeatable.

how about if you flipped that ticket?

Originally Posted by happynz

^ First time, but FOJ.

green sent.