Thread: President Donald Trump

Originally Posted by bsnub

off topic

trump announced he's running in 2020 (it's news).

if you wish to discuss something else.

go ahead.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

trump announced he's running in 2020 (it's news).

And this isn't the News thread you imbecile.

On to more pressing topics:

I've just listened to Wilbur Ross who seems to think the US is a poor little snowflake getting fucked on trade by every other country.

Clearly he has no vested interest in fucking the US economy using baldy orange cunto as a proxy....

Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary in the Trump administration, shares business interests with Vladimir Putin’s immediate family, and he failed to clearly disclose those interests when he was being confirmed for his cabinet position.

And is it me, or does he sound like he's having a very bad stroke?

Originally Posted by bsnub

It is you that is spamming SC with your tedious dribble. You should be fucking banned from speakers corner all together for being a brainless, tedious spastic. BTW you are the personification of a trumpanzee.



Bad idea Norts. The Drumpf thread is just mostly trash. With regards to this thread it has stayed mostly on point until the idiot FaRT suddenly decided to start flooding it with off topic spam in a desperate attempt to derail it.

What your really ally saying is ban anyone who posts anything you don't like.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

And this isn't the News thread you imbecile.

posting about trump news on the trump thread is wrong, IYO?

give it a rest, harry.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Wilbur Ross

you see a thread like this can be open for many tangents, even one about wilbur ross.

if you don't agree with something i post, then debate it or ignore it.

don't whine about it with the angry drunkard (bsnub).

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

posting about trump news on the trump thread is wrong, IYO?

give it a rest, harry.

But you're not you fucking tool.

You're posting shite about the 2016 election and what the democrats have to do to win the next.

You really are fucking imbecile.

Post that shit here you moron THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR:

https://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...tic-party.html (Post-Election '16 DNC and the Democratic Party)

Originally Posted by RPETER65

What your really ally saying is ban anyone who posts anything you don't like.

No I don't think he really ally is.

He really ally is saying post stuff on a particular topic in a thread that's suited to it - something the dribbling FRT seems incapable of doing.

Originally Posted by Norton

I'd rather the mods merge the several Trump related threads into one "all things trump" thread. One stop shopping sort of thing.

I'd rather they didn't because this thread is about one thing: Baldy orange cunto.

Only a fucking imbecile thinks posting 2016 election maps and stories about how Hillary fucked up has anything to do with what baldy orange cunto is doing now.

The threads are fine, it's only certain fuckwits that don't have two brain cells to rub together that have no idea how to use them.

Meanwhile the fallout continues....

Trump dispatched pro-tariff advisers Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro to TV news studios to defend his plan, while White House aides scrambled to downplay the prospect of a resignation by free trade advocate Gary Cohn, the top White House economic adviser, over the matter.

Cohn is part of a faction in Trump's administration that warned the Republican president for months not to threaten the 25-per cent steel and 10-per cent aluminium tariffs that he pledged to impose in a chaotic announcement on Thursday.
There was speculation that Cohn, who told Trump the markets would slump on a tariffs threat, might step down as a result of Trump's decision, but there was no indication of a such a move any time soon, a senior White House official said.
'Gary was here yesterday afternoon, I talked to him in my office several times, so I don't have any reason to think otherwise,' White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders told reporters.
Turmoil inside the administration over trade came during one of the most hectic weeks of the Trump presidency, with confusion around the issue intensified by adviser Hope Hicks' resignation on Wednesday and staff secretary Rob Porter's on February 7.
National Economic Council director Cohn, treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin and others for months had tried to steer Trump away from aggressive tariffs, but the president resisted their counsel, a senior administration official said.
Interviews with large trade associations, as well as lobbyists who represent companies in several industries, indicated back-channel discussions were under way, with companies trying to convince the White House and commerce department to include key exemptions in the coming official tariffs policy.
Industry groups want exemptions for imports from individual countries or for types of metals that cannot be found in the United States, the lobbyists said.
Companies that use cans for products like drinks or soup were among the most vocal opponents.
'Like most brewers, we are selling an increasing amount of our beers in aluminium cans and this action will cause aluminium prices to rise and is likely to lead to job losses across the beer industry,' said MillerCoors spokesman Colin Wheeler.
Can manufacturers plan to pressure lawmakers and administration officials next week.
'What Wilbur Ross doesn't realise is that a few cents on 115 billion food and general line cans is a lot of money,' said Robert Budway, president of the Can Manufacturers Institute in Washington.

https://www.christiantoday.com/us/bu...rel/126782.htm

Officials inside the White House and the Treasury Department were trying on Friday to contain the fallout from President Donald Trump’s declaration of a trade war and to ensure that new levies are not imposed on all trading partners.
In an early-morning Twitter post, the president cast off decades of consensus that trade wars damage the U.S. economy and hurt more workers than they help, embracing a strategy that many scholars believe helped deepen and extend the Great Depression.
Trump tweeted that “trade wars are good, and easy to win.”
The announcement spooked investors, enraged U.S. allies and left pro-trade White House officials scrambling to limit the damage and change the president’s mind.
“I think by the time this is actually finished, there’s at least a chance it won’t look like it did on Thursday,” one senior administration official said Friday afternoon.
But the stock market, which plunged following Trump’s haphazard announcement of steel and aluminum tariffs on Thursday, continued its descent Friday. The Dow dropped over 300 points shortly after the opening bell on Wall Street, adding to a 420-point decline on Thursday.
Stocks recovered somewhat later in the day as traders hoped that by the time the tariffs become actual policy, they will be more targeted and spare major U.S. allies.
Trump’s trade war tweet came the morning after the president rebuked Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, siding with economic nationalists in his administration and announcing plans to impose steep 25 percent tariffs on imported steel and 10 percent on imported aluminum.


The decision led Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs president viewed as the main check on Trump’s protectionist impulses, to threaten to resign, according to two people familiar with the situation. And it had Treasury officials scrambling to reassure U.S. allies while monitoring the market fallout.
One person close to Cohn said on Friday that the NEC director was at work in Washington and had a “smile on his face.”
The White House was quiet. Several meetings had been canceled, according to administration officials, and some staffers opted to work from home because of the federal government’s closure due to strong winds.
There was a sense among many administration officials that the White House was getting crushed on the president’s trade pronouncement — from the business community and Capitol Hill — and staying out of the office provided at least some respite.
“If you are in the office after what has happened the past few weeks, you are a sucker,” one White House official said. “I don’t have any answers. We have no papers. We have nothing.”
Another senior member of the economic team said they were in the dark about the policy.
“I don’t understand what we announced, I don’t know what the policy is,” this person said.
Only Peter Navarro, a White House trade adviser, and the Commerce Department appeared to be in the loop on the president’s decision. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, a billionaire, took to CNBC on Friday morning to defend the policy, holding up soup and beverage cans to argue that the increase in consumer prices from the tariffs wouldn’t be so bad.
Still, it felt to many inside the administration as if the president had stirred up a potential trade war and then suddenly exited Washington on Friday to attend the funeral of Billy Graham in North Carolina before heading to his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.
The formal declaration of tariffs and Trump’s robust embrace of trade wars spooked investors who fear that while a few steel companies may benefit, consumers will face higher prices, trading partners will retaliate and manufacturers who rely on imported materials, including the auto industry, could suffer, perhaps severely.
“The idea that you can somehow win a trade battle by mutual impoverishment is just counter to economic consensus and decades of history,” said Scott Lincicome, a trade attorney and adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute. “Going back 100 years and even dating to the Civil War, you look at the academic analysis of protectionism and the results are pretty much uniformly the same. You have far more costs than benefits, and those costs are borne not just by consumers but by American companies and farmers and exporters.”
Immediate market reaction offered a snapshot into the potential fall-out from increased protectionism.
Shares in steel companies rose following Trump’s announcements, but shares in companies that use imported steel and aluminum — from automakers like Ford and GM to aerospace giants like Boeing — fell sharply.
American allies, including the European Union and Canada, immediately scorned Trump’s decision on steel and threatened retribution. Republicans on Capitol Hill also sharply rebuked the president.
“Kooky 18th-century protectionism will jack up prices on American families — and will prompt retaliation from other countries,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said in a statement on Friday. “If the president goes through with this, it will kill American jobs — that’s what every trade war ultimately does. So much losing.”
The chaotic process that led to Trump’s tariff announcement also portrayed an increasingly isolated president — besieged by scandal and losing some of his most trusted aides — clinging to an issue hat he has pushed for years and that he believes helped him win the White House.
But to advisers including Cohn and Mnuchin, as well as Republicans across Capitol Hill and in corporate America, Trump’s decision to fully embrace protectionism threatens the two things actually going well in his presidency: a strengthening economy and rising stock market.
“His braggadocio about his effect on the stock market has been undercut by events of his own doing,” David Kotok, chief investment officer at Cumberland Advisers, wrote in a client note on Friday morning. “He is losing his staff. He is isolated and beleaguered. And in the midst of crisis he tosses an ill-thought-out bomb called protectionism that punches out the best of our allies and friends while it strengthens our nation’s adversaries.”
Cohn, Mnuchin and other free-trade advocates inside the White House argued for months that embracing tariffs and ripping up free-trade deals would threaten a stock market rally that Trump until recently loved to boast about. The president has come to view the stock market as a form of polling, according to two close White House advisers.
For a while, the market argument worked, helping keep the president from unilaterally ending the North American Free Trade agreement and a separate pact with South Korea.
But at least as of Friday, it appeared the argument no longer swayed the president. Trump issued his latest trade war tweets even after the sharp market decline on Thursday. And White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Friday morning said the president was not worried about the market declines.
“The president’s still focused on long-term economic fundamentals,” she said. “He is incredibly focused on the American worker. It’s something that we have to have and something we need to have.”
Business coalitions outside the steel industry on Friday were gearing up to see whether they could carve out exemptions to blunt the impact of the proposed tariffs by excluding NAFTA or NATO countries, according to one Republican lobbyist — or create exemptions for products not currently manufactured in the U.S.
Several Republican senators also made public statements in the past 24 hours blasting the president’s plan. Factions on the Hill hoped that would be effective again in changing Trump’s mind. When he threatened to pull out of NAFTA, several key lawmakers involved in trade reached out to the White House and directly to president to nudge him off the idea, and they had success.
But some White House officials worried they might not be able to talk Trump out of the tariffs idea. The policy process inside the White House broke down during this decision, and chief of staff John Kelly, although he has kept his job over the past few weeks, has been weakened.
“Given the president’s mood lately and how much he really believes in it, I think we are past that point,” one official said. “The process broke down on this one, and all of us feel like we’ve gone backwards.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-d...r-declaration/

^The orange idiot thinks he's the emperor. It's been said before that he will do something simply because an advisor said "don't do it". Narcissistic fool.

As for his wonderful tax cuts, here's a piece by a Nobel winning economist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/o...imes&smtyp=cur

Synopsis: Tax cuts for the middle class (meagre as they are) are outweighed by extra costs in e.g Medicaid or Medicare which will become more expensive because the government can't afford to subsidise them because of the tax cuts. Also, "trickle down" won't work in this case (or any other cases except fantasy). Companies just get richer. The bonuses much publicised were bonuses that would have been paid anyway in a low unemployment situation as it is.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

No I don't think he really ally is.

He really ally is saying post stuff on a particular topic in a thread that's suited to it - something the dribbling FRT seems incapable of doing.

You must have have the same spell checker I have ally

33 percenters

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You must have have the same spell checker I have ally

They'res nothing wring with my spill chucker.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Look would you fuck off with this shit, the thread is about baldy orange cunto not your fucking ramblings about Clinton.

There is a Democrat thread, go and post this bollocks there FFS.

A democrat thread? Really?

FFS!

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

A democrat thread? Really?

FFS!

Pick a subject and you'll probably find a certain twat has opened a thread on it (and probably bumped it as well).

August 2016:

"I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to go play golf"

March 2018:

For all those who like to say Donald Trump doesn’t do anything of significance as commander in chief, the president reached an important milestone on Saturday when he spent his 100th day since moving into the White House at one of his golf clubs, according to tallies by CNN and NBC.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...olf-clubs.html

Strange way to make a point, especially as baldy orange cunto is off golfing again.

U.S. Secret Service on Saturday responded to reports of a person who "allegedly suffered a self-inflicted gun shot wound" near the north fence line surrounding the White House, the U.S. Secret Service said. President Trump is currently in West Palm Beach.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/breakin...-live-updates/

Only baldy orange cunto.... you couldn't make it up.

The White House announced on Friday President Donald Trump’s chosen nominee to run the Environmental Protection Agency’s Office of Solid Waste: Peter C. Wright, a corporate lawyer from The Dow Chemical Company.

Tapped as the EPA’s assistant administrator, Wright would lead the agency’s efforts in responding to toxic spills and cleaning hazard waste sites.

In the official announcement, the White House says Wright has “led Dow’s legal strategies regarding Superfund sites and other Federal and State-led remediation matters.” Wright has been a managing counsel for Dow since 1999.

Dow and Dupont (a rival chemical company that merged with Dow last year) are responsible for over half of 100 of the toxic sites currently undergoing or scheduled for cleanup, according to an analysis by the Associated Press.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...waste-response

^he's got a yuuuuge iq and a really good brain

Originally Posted by uncle junior

^he's got a yuuuuge iq and a really good brain

Well I'm guessing that's a few more swamps that won't be getting drained.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well I'm guessing that's a few more swamps that won't be getting drained.

You are probably still clueless about the true nature of the USA corporate oligarchy.

But do continue the senseless blithering, blabbering on about how Trump is the issue.

Trump is just an obvious symptom, of a much larger disease.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You are probably still clueless about the true nature of the USA corporate oligarchy.

But do continue the senseless blithering, blabbering on about how Trump is the issue.

Trump is just an obvious symptom, of a much larger disease.

Clearly you do not understand the significance of having an incompetent, bumbling, bald, orange faced cunto in the Whitehouse, who (probably at the Koch Brothers behest) just put a fucking fox in charge of the EPA henhouse.

And is now doing his best to fuck up everyone with pointless trade wars.

The disease of which baldy orange cunto is the symptom is the one that affected the brains of every idiot that voted for him.

President Donald Trump on Saturday ramped up his rhetoric on trade tariffs, threatening the European Union with a tax on cars if they retaliate to his proposed steel taxes.
World leaders expressed concern after the president announced his plans on Thursday, with Mr Trump defiantly tweeting that “trade wars are good, and easy to win“. Jean-Claude Junker, president of the European Commission, also threatened retaliation.
On Saturday Mr Trump responded to Mr Junker’s threat, tweeting: “If the EU wants to further increase their already massive tariffs and barriers on US companies doing business there, we will simply apply a Tax on their Cars which freely pour into the US.
“They make it impossible for our cars (and more) to sell there. Big trade imbalance!”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-war-warning/

‘Pure madness’: Dark days inside the White House as Trump shocks and rages


Inside the White House, aides over the past week have described an air of anxiety and volatility — with an uncontrollable commander in chief at its center.

These are the darkest days in at least half a year, they say, and they worry just how much farther President Trump and his administration may plunge into unrest and malaise before they start to recover. As one official put it: “We haven’t bottomed out.”

Trump is now a president in transition, at times angry and increasingly isolated. He fumes in private that just about every time he looks up at a television screen, the cable news headlines are trumpeting yet another scandal. He voices frustration that son-in-law Jared Kushner has few on-air defenders. He revives old grudges.

And he confides to friends that he is uncertain about whom to trust.

READ MORE: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pure-madness-dark-days-inside-the-white-house-as-trump-shocks-and-READ MORE: rages/2018/03/03/9849867c-1e72-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html?utm_term=.ada069123621

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

You are probably still clueless about the true nature of the USA corporate oligarchy.

But do continue the senseless blithering, blabbering on about how Trump is the issue.

Trump is just an obvious symptom, of a much larger disease.

So you agree he's a symptom of the disease, not a remedy.
Finally seems you're starting to see the light.