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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    fuck me, do you have another note you can play? As Yoda said, "boring and repetitive you've become, seeking truth you are not, a fuckwit become you have...."
    The reason the trumpanzees are all obsessed with Clinton is because they've been told to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    The reason the trumpanzees are all obsessed with Clinton is because they've been told to be.
    Exactly. Fox news, breitbart etc are simply propaganda tools of the oligarchs. The Koch brothers, Walton family etc control the Trumpanzees minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Walton family etc control the Trumpanzees minds.
    Walton family can't even control their Dad's company any longer. Other than their WMT stock, they're worthless as tits on a boar hog...

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    ^ Riggght a family worth a combined $145 million is worthless. That makes sense. Even if you set them aside from the discussion my point is that the oligarchs dictate to right wing media what to say. They are propaganda mills full stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    ^ Riggght a family worth a combined $145 million is worthless.
    I'm not talking about $$$ amount worthless.

    According to a Fortune article (“The Waltons: Inside America’s Richest Family” ANDY SERWER / Fortune v.150, n.10, 15nov04):
    These meetings are central to the Walton family. Topics are chosen in advance, and Wal-Mart executives or advisors from Walton Enterprises or the family foundations are invited to give presentations. The subject might be philanthropy, merchandising, or the company’s expansion overseas. “The meetings glue us together,” Rob Walton says. “We want the next generation to be actively involved and to be good stewards of this company.”
    Fail! Wall Street and it's errand boys, that are being inserted into upper mgt., are running the company. They are not good stewards. Walton family nowhere to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Earl
    You just have to be an inconsolable Hillarybot member of the DNC fresh out of ideas.
    This thread's about Trump yet you constantly post about Clinton.

    You know it's 2018 and the election was well over a year ago... right??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    oligarchs dictate to media in general
    FTFY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    FTFY...
    Your response is predictable and if you think that the propaganda being spouted on fox, breitbart etc is in anyway comparable to other media you are delusional. Those outlets were created by the oligarchs with one sole purpose. There is no parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    This thread's about Trump yet you constantly post about Clinton.

    You know it's 2018 and the election was well over a year ago... right??
    And yet, Trump derangement syndrome continues to amplify and worsen among the dumber than dogshit brigade.

    Has it ever occurred to you that getting your marching orders from MSM, CNN and Newspeak magazine is not considered independent thought?

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    Cool non-sequitur bro.

    Learn that one from Fox News?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Learn that one from Fox News?
    I think he got it from Alex Jones.

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    Donald Trump's lawyer says he paid porn actress Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket


    In a 2011 interview with Ms Clifford said she and Mr Trump had a sexual encounter.

    US President Donald Trump's personal lawyer says he paid $US130,000 out of his own pocket to a porn actress who
    allegedly had a sexual relationship with Mr Trump in 2006.

    Key points:
    • In a 2011 interview Stephanie Clifford said she and Mr Trump had a sexual encounter
    • In January 2018, Ms Clifford said in a statement the alleged affair never occurred
    • Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen says he paid Ms Clifford $130,000 out of his own pocket

    Michael Cohen said in a statement to The New York Times he was not reimbursed by the Trump Organisation or the
    Trump campaign for the payment to Stormy Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.

    More here

    Our fingerprints never fade from the lives we touch

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    that's an expensive fuck for a porn actress you could get for 500 USD a night

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    wouldn't surprise me that she made a tape out of it, and sold it back to him through the lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    wouldn't surprise me that she made a tape out of it, and sold it back to him through the lawyer
    130K would be too cheap for that....

    I wonder when trump's bible thumping Pence will be critical of the president fucking outside the holy bounds of marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Your response is predictable and if you think that the propaganda being spouted on fox, breitbart etc is in anyway comparable to other media you are delusional.
    Hold on to your dream man...


    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    propaganda being spouted on fox
    Lets go back to the time of Bush II and the run-up to the war in Iraq. Was it just Fox(and its ilk) spouting the propaganda for that? No, the entire establishment approved corporate media complex were beating the war drums. Oligarchs were smiling.

    Don't give me this "right wing" boogieman BS. I'm way past the whole right wing/left wing charade as well as the (D) vs. (R) crap. Meaningless waste of time and just another way to divide and conquer.

    "Right wing" "left wing"...yeah, on the same fucking bird. In the case of the US, that bird is an oligarch flown corporate war eagle.

    Trump vs. Clinton? Either way was a loss for "We the People."

    Bottom line, I don't think what our(US) "system" has become is fixable...by anyone. Patrick Henry warned of this long ago in 1788.

    If this new government will not come up to the expectation of the people, and they shall be disappointed, their liberty will be lost, and tyranny must and will arise. I repeat it again, and I beg gentlemen to consider, that a wrong step, made now, will plunge us into misery, and our republic will be lost.
    We are living the masked tyranny. Not to mention our "system" and it's WMD has become a danger to the entire world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    130K would be too cheap for that....

    I wonder when trump's bible thumping Pence will be critical of the president fucking outside the holy bounds of marriage.
    Pence is probably doing it himself with young boys

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    130K would be too cheap for that....
    well, she is a pornstar, they are cheap

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    so trump's personal lawyer is saying he paid a porn actress $130,000 of his own money and won't say why he paid her. he's also claiming it wasn't trump's money or the campaign's money. by the way, he made the payment during the campaign.

    he'd better hope he's never asked to state this under oath or put his signature under it, because people go to jail for lies like this.

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    she got paid in cash, and lawyers are the new bank these days for dodgy operations since they act as fiduciary on escrow accounts or proxy for their clients

    very convenient

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    We are living the masked tyranny. Not to mention our "system" and it's WMD has become a danger to the entire world.
    Compare with :
    http://teakdoor.com/speakers-corner/...ml#post3717939

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    so, the porn actress thinks that trump's lawyer violated the NDA by telling the NYT that he (not trump) was the one who paid her the $130,000....and if trump's lawyer did violated the NDA, then the NDA is invalidated...and she can tell her story without fear of reprisals.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    Don't give me this "right wing" boogieman BS.
    Like I said there is no parallel outside of the right wing echo chamber and if you have to rewind all the way back to the gulf war to make your point it just reinforces my previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    "Right wing" "left wing"...yeah, on the same fucking bird.
    No it is really not and we are seeing it every fucking day with this administration.

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    I'll just leave this here.

    Dunno who this guy is, some former Republican congressional aide apparently, but he lets rip with both barrels:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/o...publicans.html

    Reagan’s ‘Party of Ideas’ Is Down to Just One: Tax Cuts



    Denver Republicans watched President Trump’s State of the Union address in January.CreditChet Strange for The New York TimesIt is a sign of our slide toward banana republic status when the president of the United States, leader of the world’s foremost democracy, publicly brands Democrats who failed to applaud his State of the Union address as un-American and treasonous. The largely partisan audience was fine with it.


    What has become of the Republican Party, which I once served on Capitol Hill and which I now consider a dangerous extremist movement on a par with the ruling Fidesz party in neo-fascist Hungary? Where did its principles go? What became of Ronald Reagan’s “party of ideas”?


    One by one, those ideas were tossed aside for expediency and power — except the tax cut. A time traveler from the Reagan era would no longer recognize the Republican Party, but most Republican politicians feel no embarrassment supporting policies they once condemned.


    Since World War II, Republicans have styled themselves the party of national defense. Yet under President Trump, they have unsettled our alliances and professed a strange new respect for Vladimir Putin.


    The Republicans were once the party of global free trade, a system with major flaws but one that requires reform, not ham-handed overthrow. Yet the president believes he can bully longtime allies and force them to accept bilateral trade deals on his terms. A likely result is that the allies associate with trade blocs like the European Union or the revised Trans-Pacific Partnership so that they can better resist his bullying.




    Despite Mr. Trump’s protectionist talk, the offshoring of jobs has increased slightly during his presidency. And the latest figures show the trade deficit rising to a nine-year high, with imports from China and Mexico, his main boogeymen, reaching record levels. His tariffs on Chinese solar panels, supposedly to assist our domestic producers, will cost an estimated 23,000 United States jobs.


    An enduring caricature of the old-time Republican is the penny-pinching deficit hawk. In truth, this philosophy was honored mostly in the breach, as the Reagan and George W. Bush presidencies revealed. But it was alive enough that George H. W. Bush, channeling the fiscal prudence of Dwight Eisenhower and Gerald Ford, sacrificed a second term to achieve deficit reduction.


    Under Mr. Trump, who has extolled leveraging other people’s money while declaring that debt is good, the party is no longer even half pregnant. His tax act, passed exclusively with Republican votes in both the House and the Senate, increases the national debt by over a trillion dollars and awards 62 percent of its monetary benefits to the richest 1 percent of Americans.


    Paul Ryan, the House speaker, sees the tax act as a bonanza for the working stiff: He tweeted that a public school secretary would see a whopping $1.50 a week extra in her paycheck. It’s touching that the secretary can now afford an extra McDonald’s coffee every week, but the deficit, thanks partly to the tax cut, is projected after years of decline to explode to a trillion dollars annually.



    Tax cuts, regardless of the deficit, are an obsession with Republicans and a source of shameless hypocrisy. During the recent shutdown crisis, the House Freedom Caucus balked at a deal to avert an impasse because it contained additional domestic spending, while in the Senate, Rand Paul of Kentucky held up the vote because the spending creates debt that threatens “the livelihoods of our children.” Yet the senator and every single Freedom Caucus member enthusiastically had voted only a few weeks before for a fiscally irresponsible tax bill.


    Republicans were once the party of conservation and the environment: from Abraham Lincoln, who set aside Yosemite for what later became a national park, to Theodore Roosevelt, preserving 230 million acres of public land, to Richard Nixon, who signed the Clean Air Act and created the Environmental Protection Agency.


    Now the E.P.A. is being systematically gutted. Its administrator, Scott Pruitt, has named as chairman of its science advisory board a person who criticizes the E.P.A.’s standards for exposure to mercury (a neurotoxin causing severe brain damage) and believes ozone pollution rules are unnecessary because Americans spend most of their time indoors. Another of the board’s “alternative” scientists is a man who has stated that “modern air is a little too clean for optimum health.”


    Republicans always counted themselves as strong supporters of law and order. Whenever a crime bill was considered in Congress, I used to joke with my colleagues that any minute, a Republican would offer an amendment proposing the death penalty for jaywalking. But the president’s high-decibel smear campaign against the professionals of the F.B.I. destroys the party’s pretense of being a friend of law enforcement, as does the administration’s dismantling of the Consumer Financial Protection Agency and its rules against consumer fraud. The fact that Mr. Trump and his senior appointees are scofflaws regarding conflict-of-interest statutes does not enhance their reputation as straight arrows.


    So what do Republicans have left? The tax cut, the sole important legislation from the Republican Congress, shows that catering to its rich contributors is the party’s only policy. The rest of its agenda is simply tactics and trickery.


    As the party has become unmoored from positive belief, it has grown manipulative, demagogic and contemptuous of truth. This was foreshadowed in 2004 when a senior adviser to George W. Bush boastedthat “we create our own reality.” It has culminated in the president’s counselor Kellyanne Conway’s appealing to “alternative facts,” meaning lies, on behalf of her boss, who has made an average of 5.6 false or misleading claims a day since his inauguration.


    Today’s Republican Party is incapable of honest and coherent governance, with “right” or “wrong” reduced to a question of whether it helps the party. Its agenda is little more than institutional vandalism and a thumb in the eye.
    A few Republicans protest the president’s disgraceful behavior, but never in a way that matters. Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona has become famous for sanctimonious speeches denouncing the latest outrage, but he votes with machine-like consistency in favor of the president’s destructive agenda and unqualified nominees.
    Ultimately, the party’s spiritual sickness isn’t about Mr. Trump. Eight years ago, did Republican officeholders shut down the nonsense that Mr. Obama was a secret Muslim? For that matter, a quarter-century ago, did they quash the idiotic charge that the Clintons murdered Vince Foster?


    Donald Trump merely aggravated what has long been building up in the party of Lincoln. In 2011, when House Republicans threatened to drive the government into default to extort political concessions, I left the party. Seven years later, it has become so extreme that I fear it is endangering the stability of the republic.


    Correction: February 13, 2018



    An earlier version of this article mischaracterized Yosemite. Yellowstone was the first national park, not Yosemite.

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