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    No idea what Trump said but no way does the FY18 budget have the funds needed to increase nuks 10 fold.

    FY 18 roughly $1 billion above the FY 2017 appropriation and $570 million above the projection in Obama’s final budget request. All due to increase cost of maintaining existing arsenal.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    You didn't read the part where he was backed up by Mattis.
    “Recent reports that the president called for an increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal are absolutely false. This kind.
    Yeah, I read it. The last sentence of the article undebunks what Mattis said....alot easier to believe NBC in this instance...it's all 'he said;she said' though, so go ahead and believe the orange clown


    NBC told HuffPost last week in a statement that it stood by its reporting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    Yeah, I read it. The last sentence of the article undebunks what Mattis said....alot easier to believe NBC in this instance...it's all 'he said;she said' though, so go ahead and believe the orange clown
    So you choose to believe a report with no known sources,over a rebuttal of known sources. Seems as though you let your hatred for the man in the Oval Office override the more plausible truth. Who are all these unknown sources,are these the same deep state people leaking classified information to bring Down Trump, you have no idea do you and yet you choose to unquestioningly go with the haters,I hope you weren't one of those questioning the Donald's IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I hope you weren't one of those questioning the Donald's IQ
    Heaven forfend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...tRump's amazing intellect:

    Trump Has the Highest IQ. He Says So Himself.

    Watch out, Rex Tillerson. The president wants to go brain-to-brain with you.
    By Timothy L. O'Brien (Bloomberg)
    October 11, 2017





    "I have a very good brain."
    Source: BloombergPresident Donald Trump has challenged Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to a duel, suggesting that he and his beleaguered adviser match scores from their respective IQ tests to see who's smarter.

    To be fair to the president, Tillerson has reportedly called Trump a "moron." Even away from Trumplandia, that's a fighting word.

    "I think it’s fake news, but if he did that, I guess we’ll have to compare IQ tests," Trump said of Tillerson in an interview that Forbes published Tuesday. “And I can tell you who is going to win.”

    You betcha. No doubt who would win that one. After all, Tillerson—who is the former chief executive of one of the world's largest corporations, Exxon Mobil, and has a degree in engineering—must be dumb if he didn't realize that questioning Trump's smarts is a dangerous game.

    Trump's always been the world's leading gladiator when it comes to IQ smackdowns.
    In 2016, he challenged London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, to compare IQ tests after Khan dismissed Trump's take on Islam as "ignorant."
    Trump has also boasted that he has a higher IQ than George W. Bush, Barack Obama, George Will, Karl Rove and the entire staff of the Washington Post. Lest he missed anyone, Trump has also issued blanket warnings to those who might question his intellectual chops, as he did in this Twitter post from 2013:

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    Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure,it's not your fault
    8:37 AM - May 9, 2013



    Trump was talking so much about his IQ way back in the early 2000s, when I covered him as a reporter and then spent time with him for a biography, that I once asked him for evidence of his lofty scores. He never produced anything.
    Trump's insecurity about his intellect is one of the constants of his journey on the public stage over the last several decades. (The other two legs of Trump's insecurity stool are his sexappeal and the scope of his wealth; Trump sued me for questioning the latter, a case he lost in 2011.)

    Trump's bragging about his brain was also a
    hallmark of the 2016 presidential campaign, and beyond.

    "I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain," Trump told Morning Joe interviewers in 2016 when asked who was advising him about foreign affairs and diplomacy. "My primary consultant is myself, and I have a good instinct for this stuff."
    Such expertise extended to national security and intelligence matters, as he noted in an interview last December in which he explained why he doesn't need daily briefings: "I'm, like, a smart person," he said. "I don't have to be told the same thing in the same words every single day for the next eight years."

    The day before he was inaugurated in January, Trump
    told a luncheon honoring his cabinet that, "We have by far the highest IQ of any cabinet ever assembled!" (It's not clear where he ranked Tillerson at the time.)

    On he rolled:

    "Is Donald Trump an intellectual? Trust me, I'm like a smart person," he
    told a gathering at the Central Intelligence Agency the day after he was inaugurated.
    In February, he advised that anyone questioning the bona fides of a travel ban he had proposed against seven mostly-Muslim countries might not measure up academically:
    "I was a good student," he
    said. "I comprehend very well, okay, better than I think almost anybody.”

    Trump's alma mater, the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania, might have a different take on that. While a number of Trump profiles have described him as first in his class, college records don't support that. A Trump biographer, Gwenda Blair, has noted that the president had merely "respectable" grades at Fordham University before he transferred into Wharton, a school he has lauded as "super genius stuff," during his junior year.
    The University of Pennsylvania's student newspaper, the Daily Pennsylvanian, reportedearlier this year that Trump never made the Dean's List at Wharton. Former classmates described him as a lackluster student.
    "He was not an intellectual man, but that wasn’t what his goal was," one classmate told the paper.
    For those who perceive shortages of Trumpian brainpower, Twitter awaits:

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    I heard poorly rated @Morning_Joe speaks badly of me (don't watch anymore). Then how come low I.Q. Crazy Mika, along with Psycho Joe, came..
    7:52 PM - Jun 29, 2017



    But even for Mika Brzezinski, Rex Tillerson and others who can't make Trump's IQ cut, hope is not lost. The president himself has offered an easy formula for getting back on the brainiac track.
    "Tell yourself that you are a genius," he wrote in "Think Like a Champion," one of his many books. "Right away you will probably wonder why and in what way you are a genius. And right away, you will have opened your mind up to wonder—and to asking questions. That’s a big first step to thinking like a genius."
    If that advice isn't enough, there are always tests available. Mensa, the international club for smarties, said on Tuesday that it's ready to give the president's statements a reality check.
    "Mensa would be happy to hold a testing session for President Trump and Secretary Tillerson," the group announced.


    It is not not known for sure what Trump's IQ is but if you googled his education history you would find he was accepted into and graduated from The Wharton School Of Business, now knowing this you can check Wharton's acceptance requirements, from this you get a pretty good idea that it would take an IQ somewhere north of 150 to gain admission to the school. By the way what is your IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    are these the same deep state people leaking classified information to bring Down Trump
    Well there you go. The so called "deep state" gets mentioned. That is tin foiled as fuck being that the "deep state" was a invention of Russian twitter bots. Right wing bozo's swallowing talking points provided by their propaganda masters as usual. Par the course.

    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    It is not not known for sure what Trump's IQ is but if you googled his education history you would find he was accepted into and graduated from The Wharton School Of Business
    You utter bozo the wharton school is a rich mans playground. It is the personification of privilege and has been for decades. You are one dumb mofo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    I hope you weren't one of those questioning the Donald's IQ.
    Rex Tillerson debunked the DT's high IQ myth already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Well there you go. The so called "deep state" gets mentioned. That is tin foiled as fuck being that the "deep state" was a invention of Russian twitter bots. Right wing bozo's swallowing talking points provided by their propaganda masters as usual. Par the course.



    You utter bozo the wharton school is a rich mans playground. It is the personification of privilege and has been for decades. You are one dumb mofo.
    A rich man's play ground with a median score of 720 out of 800 on the GMAT ,it may cater to the rich but not the rich and dumb. Best to check your info before putting your foot in your mouth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Best to check your info before putting your foot in your mouth
    ...here's a little something to brighten your cave:

    ...Reports of Trump’s grades at Wharton vary. The New York Times reported in 1973 and 1976 that he graduated first in his class. But in a 1985 biography of Trump, Jerome Tuccille wrote that he was not an honor student and “spent a lot of time on outside business activities.”Another biographer, Gwenda Blair, wrote in 2001 that Trump was admitted to Wharton on a special favor from a “friendly” admissions officer. The officer had known Trump’s older brother, Freddy.
    Trump’s classmates doubt that the real estate mogul was an academic powerhouse.
    “He was not in any kind of leadership. I certainly doubt he was the smartest guy in the class,” said Steve Perelman, a 1968 Wharton classmate and a former Daily Pennsylvanian news editor.
    Some classmates speculated that Trump skipped class, others that he commuted to New York on weekends.
    “Four years — including lots of required classes — is a long time never to hear of a classmate, especially with such a distinctive name,” wrote 1968 Wharton graduate Larry Krohn, another one of Trump’s classmates, in an email.
    In a manner hardly consistent with his outsized personality, college-aged Donald Trump was barely seen around campus on weekends, remained uninvolved in most campus activities and his picture was even absent from the yearbook. While there’s no lack of Trump hotels, casinos and golf courses, no building on Penn’s campus bears his name.

    The Daily Pennsylvanian | Trump flaunts Wharton degree, but his college years remain a mystery
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    ...this just in:

    Faster, Steve Bannon. Kill! Kill!











    Stephen K. Bannon. (Scott Olson/Getty Images)
    By Robert Kagan October 11 at 7:54 PM


    Rarely has a political party more deserved the destruction the Republican Party may be about to suffer at the hands of President Trump’s former strategist, ideological guru and onetime puppeteer Steve Bannon. It was obvious during the earliest days of the campaign that Trump never intended to be either the leader or the protector of the Republican Party. He had contempt for the party. For one thing, it was a proven loser. For another, it crumpled like stick figures under his steamroller. Who could respect people who fell so easily, and so willingly?

    Party leaders were especially contemptible in Trump’s eyes. They couldn’t even see what he was doing to them, or if they did, they were too cowardly to stop him. He had contempt for them when they tried to distance themselves from his racist, sexist and all around antisocial behavior. But he had even more contempt for them when they nevertheless came crawling back to him, again and again, pledging their fealty. He knew they came back not because they approved of him but because they feared him and the political following he commanded. He had stolen the hearts of their constituents, and therefore he owned them. He would use them as needed, and dispose of them when he could, knowing they could do nothing about it. “I saw them at Munich,” Hitler said of his British and French counterparts, whom he dubbed “little worms.”

    Now the conquest is in full swing. Trump and Bannon put on a little Kabuki play for us this year. After a few months, it became clear that Bannon had become a lightning rod in the White House, the target of endless sniping from disgruntled Republicans and fellow staffers, unable to get anything done in the sludge of the Washington bureaucracy. He was hamstrung. And so they decided he could do more for Trump on the outside. Trump would play the constrained madman, surrounded and controlled by the “adults,” occasionally letting his true feelings be known to his throngs. Meanwhile Bannon would play the gonzo political maestro on the outside, running Trumpists in primaries to knock off establishment types, even hardcore conservative ones. Trump could even pretend to support the establishment’s choice, but his voters would know better. The result would be a rout. Some establishment Republicans would lose, either in the primary or the general; others would be afraid to run for reelection; others would try to suck up to Bannon in the hopes of persuading him not to unleash the hounds; all would try to mimic Trump. And it didn’t matter which path they took: These would all be victories for Trump.

    This is what is happening now. It is the Trumpian Anschluss, the peaceful takeover of a party too craven to fight back. Republican leaders cry, “You’re helping the Democrats win!” But that doesn’t matter to Bannon and Trump. For one thing, it may not even be true, for who can be sure that a thoroughly Trumpist Republican Party won’t be able to defeat a Democratic Party apparently bent on nominating unelectable candidates on the left? But either way, Bannon and Trump undoubtedly believe it is more important to turn the party into Trump’s personal vehicle, to drive out the resisters, the finger-waggers, the losers, the proud scions of the responsible establishment who could not stop Trump and apparently cannot legislate their way out of a paper bag.
    Should we have rooted for Republican leaders to fight back? Sure. And we did. The party would be worth saving if it contained even a dozen women and men of courage. But of course if it did contain such people, it wouldn’t need saving. Today the definition of a brave Republican is someone who is not running for reelection. So rooting for them is no longer an answer. The best thing for the country may be to let the party go. Let it become the party of Trump and Bannon, and as fast as possible. Let the 35 percent of the country who believe Trump is a suitable president, or who hate Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama so much that they would elect Mussolini to the White House, have their party.

    The rest of Republican voters should leave the party until it earns back the right to their support. They should change their registration and start voting for Democratic moderates and centrists, as some Republicans did in Virginia recently, to give them a leg up in their fight against the party’s left wing. A third party of “good Republicans” is a fantasy. This is a two-party country. To defeat one, you have to support the other, either directly or indirectly. Right now the country’s best hope is for a moderate Democratic Party that speaks for that sizable majority of Americans who recognize the peril of seven more years of Trump in the White House. Bannon is doing his part to make that happen. It’s time for Republican voters who care about this country to do theirs.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/faster-steve-bannon-kill-kill/2017/10/11/77bdf5c2-aea7-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.be2caa0ab96e


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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    A rich man's play ground with a median score of 720 out of 800 on the GMAT ,it may cater to the rich but not the rich and dumb. Best to check your info before putting your foot in your mouth.
    DT transferred in his 2nd year, the admin officer was his older brother's friend and was doing a favor. It's all on the interwebs....feel free to check.

    In the mean time you gotta axe yourself 'if trump's so smart; why's he have such a weak command of his native and only language?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65
    So you choose to believe a report with no known sources,over a rebuttal of known sources
    You could be describing climate change denialists or Creationists with that sentence.

    In any event this is the issue with Trump: he's a known and proven habitual liar, he has no credibility when he denies anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    he is doing fantastic and would win again the next election, simply because everyone is tired of those dodgy politician professionals
    Actually I think about now people are desperately missing 'professional politicians'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Actually I think about now people are desperately missing 'professional politicians'.

    we'll see: of course, the electoral map is still the same. if the employment situation improves in the rust belt (who switched from obama to trump) then trump will likely win again.

    "it's the economy, stupid".

    and the mainstream media went from "it's the russians", to "he's a racist" to now and in the future: "we don't like the legislation he's passing".

    i.e. the "deep state/media" effort to make him look impeachable and incapable of implementing an agenda didn't work.

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    the media went up against trump on the nfl kneeling and i didn't follow the issue closely, but it seems trump won.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    , but it seems trump won.
    More kneelers now than there were before he started his squawking on the matter. And now he's got people in the parking lots taking a knee

    Nearly 100 pastors and community leaders plan to hold a “Kneel-In” protest outside Bank of America Stadium before the start of the Carolina Panthers-Philadelphia Eagles NFL football game on Thursday night.
    So much winning.

    ?Kneel-In? protest planned before Panthers-Eagles NFL game | Charlotte Observer

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    So much winning.
    i'm talking about the cowboys' coach who previously kneeled with the players:


    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...lowed-to-play/

    and the nfl commissioner:

    NFL's Roger Goodell Says Players 'Should Stand' For National Anthem : The Two-Way : NPR

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    anyways, snaff, if you think the average nfl supporter (private business owners and average joes) who goes to the stadiums and pay for the $100+ tickets aren't supporting trump on this issue,

    not sure what you're smoking, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    i'm talking about the cowboys' coach who previously kneeled with the players:
    So one person.

    Goodell made a non-committal statement that players should stand but team owners will discuss it next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    So one person.

    Goodell made a non-committal statement that players should stand but team owners will discuss it next week.

    business is business.

    hopefully, the issue of cops not treating blacks well (brought up by kaepernick) will be focused on and i hear that some nfl teams are sending out players to talk to local police departments to help them understand their grievances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    A rich man's play ground with a median score of 720 out of 800 on the GMAT ,it may cater to the rich but not the rich and dumb. Best to check your info before putting your foot in your mouth.
    You fucking idiot the fact that you are still trying to infer that Drumpf is smart shows how much of an imbecile you really are. Drumpfs Daddie got his son into Wharton with influence the way many other rich people get in. Drumpf most likely never even took the GMAT. Once again it takes a real imbecile to actually try and claim that Drumpf is anything other than a moron at this point. He has proven it time and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai View Post
    we'll see: of course, the electoral map is still the same. if the employment situation improves in the rust belt (who switched from obama to trump) .
    How do you imagine the employment situation will improve in the rust belt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    You fucking idiot the fact that you are still trying to infer that Drumpf is smart shows how much of an imbecile you really are. Drumpfs Daddie got his son into Wharton with influence the way many other rich people get in. Drumpf most likely never even took the GMAT. Once again it takes a real imbecile to actually try and claim that Drumpf is anything other than a moron at this point. He has proven it time and again.
    Actually I was responding to your accusation that Wharton was a rich boys play ground,by pointing out it is a high IQ rich boys playground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Actually I was responding to four accusation that Wharton was a rich boys play ground,by pointing out it is a high IQ rich boys playground.
    You consider Trump a high IQ individual? On what basis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    You consider Trump a high IQ individual?
    Repeater666 is one on of the biggest idiots on this forum. He can barely read and write. He is incapable of judging anyone's intelligence.

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