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Old 13-11-2016, 12:24 PM   #101 (permalink)
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They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican.
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It isn't about Trump or Clinton. It is all about ending the lying cheating government bullshit.
Like Drumpf would even do that if he could. He is a vote for crony capitalism just look at the lobbyists and corporate big wigs lining up for cabinet positions. You are fool and jail is a good place for you.
Would you advocate jail for everyone who disagrees with you?
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Donald Trump appears to soften on Obamacare and Clinton emails
In first interview since winning election, Trump says he may not repeal Obamacare and Clinton’s prosecution not a priority

Donald Trump made his comments in an inteview with the Wall Street Journal.
Donald Trump appears to have softened his stance on a range of sweeping campaign pledges, saying in his first interview since his election as US president that he might not repeal Obamacare and that prosecuting Hillary Clinton over confidential emails was not a priority.

The president-elect, who had said he would “immediately repeal and replace” Obamacare after taking office, told the Wall Street Journal he might instead seek to reform the policy, keeping the ban on insurers denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

He said he would also look to retain the provision that allowed young adults to be insured on their parents’ policies, adding that he had been convinced of the virtues of the two points in his meeting with Barack Obama on Thursday.

Trump and his family also filmed an interview with CBS’s 60 Minutes to be broadcast on Sunday. The president-elect said he would amend, or repeal and replace Obamacare without any gaps in healthcare provision. “It will be just fine. It’s what I do. I do a good job and I know how to do this stuff,” he told Lesley Stahl.

Having called Clinton a “nasty woman” and “crooked” during the campaign, Trump struck a conciliatory tone towards his former opponent in both interviews. The Wall Street Journal asked about campaign promises to appoint a special prosecutor to pursue criminal charges against his Democratic rival over her use of a private email server to conduct official business as secretary of state.

What will be the first actions Trump takes as president?
“It’s not something I’ve given a lot of thought, because I want to solve healthcare, jobs, border control, tax reform,” Trump said. The statement may anger the president-elect’s core supporters, many of whom chanted “lock her up, lock her up,” at campaign rallies.


He told 60 Minutes the call in which Clinton conceded the election was “lovely”, adding: “It was a tough call for her, I can imagine ... She couldn’t have been nicer. She just said ‘congratulations Donald, well done’.”

“She’s very strong and very smart,” he said, adding that Bill Clinton had also called. “He couldn’t have been more gracious. He said it was an amazing run. One of the most amazing he had ever seen,” Trump said of the former president.

The Republican party’s shock victory has led to protests in some cities and on university campuses, and there have been allegations of racist and Islamophobic attacks. Trump told the Wall Street Journal he wanted to soothe the febrile public mood. “I want a country that loves each other,” he said . The best way to do this was by creating jobs.”

Asked whether the tone of his campaign had gone too far, he said: “No. I won.”

The vice president-elect, Mike Pence, will play a key role in his administration, serving as a liaison with Congress, Trump said. On Friday Trump put Pence in charge of his transition team, while his daughter, Ivanka, her husband, Jared Kushner, and his sons Eric and Donald Jr joined the executive committee. The PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel and Stephen Bannon, the former chairman of Breitbart News who directed Trump’s campaign, are also on the committee.

On foreign policy, Trump described resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict as “the ultimate deal … As a dealmaker, I’d like to do … the deal that can’t be made. And do it for humanity’s sake,” he said.


On Syria, he said his focus would be on fighting Islamic State rather than getting rid of the country’s president, Bashar al-Assad. “Russia is now totally aligned with Syria, and now you have Iran, which is becoming powerful, because of us, is aligned with Syria … Now we’re backing rebels against Syria, and we have no idea who these people are,” he said.

He said had received a “beautiful” letter from the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, and would speak to him soon.

Protesters across the US have been preparing for a weekend of demonstrations in response to Trump’s election, as other activists began work on plans to disrupt his inauguration in Washington early next year.

Rowdy protests against Trump and a campaign that was widely criticised as divisive have spread to cities all over the country following his victory on Tuesday, leading to dozens of arrests and a complaint from Trump on Twitter about “professional protesters” in one of his first public remarks as president-elect.

Early on Saturday morning a man was shot at a protest in Portland, Oregon, where police also reported that “burning projectiles” had been thrown at officers. Portland police announced 25 arrests and described the situation as a riot.

More than 10,000 people have signed up to attend a march at midday on Saturday from New York’s Union Square to Trump Tower, the future president’s home and corporate headquarters. “Join us in the streets! Stop Trump and his bigoted agenda,” the organisers of the said in a Facebook post.

The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan said on their website they would be holding a “victory parade” in North Carolina next month. The vote’s aftermath has seen reports of racist and other discriminatory attacks. The Southern Poverty Law Center has logged more than 200 such incidents since Wednesday. Richard Cohen, the organisation’s president, told the New York Times: “I don’t think there’s any question that there’s been an increase.”

In Europe, politicians expressed deep misgivings about the Republican’s victory and attacked Theresa May’s hopes that the result would lead to a good trade deal for Britain as delusional.

Axel Schafer, a senior German politician, told the Times: “Even before Tuesday the chances were rather low, now the hope for this kind of deal seems delusional ... With a more inward-looking Trump administration, it is in United Kingdom’s own interest to seek close cooperation with their EU partners in this field.”

Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, said Trump needed to learn “what Europe is and how it works.”

“I think we will waste two years before Mr Trump tours the world he does not know,” he said.

Boris Johnson, the UK foreign secretary, described the EU’s reaction as “whinge-o-rama” and the Foreign Office told the Times it had not yet decided whether he would attend a European “crisis” meeting to discuss the US election result.

The former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers struck a cautionary tone in an interview with the BBC’s World At One. “We’re getting back into a world which is quite dangerous,” he said, raising the prospect of the US going to war with Russia or China.
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Why would it upset me? I have never been a Trump fan just less a fan of the criminal Hillary.
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^ Check mate libtard, impeach Trump, I dare you.
I can't really consider myself a liberal because liberals are supposed to be against the death penalty and in favour of helping the less fortunate and stuff whereas I think people like you should be taken out and shot for being so f*cking willfully stupid.
You would make a good Nazi.
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They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican.
Frying pan into the fire.
Trump doesn't really have a passionate opinion about the issues that get the jesus wheezers excited.

Pence, on the other hand, would be their Oberführer.
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Trump used one of his own aircraft to fly over to meet Obama, he didn't ask the tax payer to get him there.
Yet. But of real concern is the fact that Trump has placed his children on his transition team. An obvious conflict of interest in view of the fact that they hold key positions in Trump companies.
Maybe a concern but not illegal.
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Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached
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Calm down everybody: Donald Trump is not the worst and won’t go unchallenged...
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Calm down everybody: Donald Trump is not the worst and won’t go unchallenged...
Right on both counts. Ted Cruz would have been much worse.
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Maybe a concern but not illegal.
That depends on what transpires. And it certainly flies in the face of the golden one's complaints about cronyism in Washington and his promise to drain the swamp.
But why would hypocrisy bother you?
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The BBC brainwashed Me into believing that it was only white angry old men who would vote Trump , also that Trump could never win as there weren't enough angry old men voters to sway the result.
I don't watch TV or read the BBC website.

As you say, BBC actually reported this?

Many times?


Complete BS.
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Ted Cruz would have been much worse.
or Hillary
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They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican.
Frying pan into the fire.
Trump doesn't really have a passionate opinion about the issues that get the jesus wheezers excited.

Pence, on the other hand, would be their Oberführer.
The libtards better make sure that trump doesn't get impeached.
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They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican.
Frying pan into the fire.
Trump doesn't really have a passionate opinion about the issues that get the jesus wheezers excited.

Pence, on the other hand, would be their Oberführer.
The libtards better make sure that trump doesn't get impeached.
That could be a very tough decision!

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Trump is going to grab a lot of pussy in that WH,

he is going to handle Congress like a giant pussy
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“It’s not something I’ve given a lot of thought.......
Fuck me running.......
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It's amusing watching all you little authoritarians running around like toddlers with a new lollipop...
...yeah about that "authoritarianism":


[This video is by an articulate young afro-american man, but for some reason, when I posted this earlier, the post was deleted... thus kind of proving the point that the real authoritarians, who try to shut down those with different views, are the lefties]

Ponder on that notion of "authoritarianism":
The right say do what you like, but don't force us to agree with you or support you; and
The left say do whatever we like, and you better agree with us or support us, or else...

Deleting this post earlier, rather seems to prove that point, now, doesn't it?
That's the point of a Republic - so that one section cannot dominate and override the rights of another... as in a democracy, or a statist regime.
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I'm looking forward to trump keeping his first day promises...

Shit canning Obamacare and jailing Hillary....seemed to be a major campaign promises...
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..yeah about that "authoritarianism":
You are missing the meaning of the word in this context.

If you have a bit of free time have a read through this e-book and you'll see what I was getting at:

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2/3 of the US population is ordinary authoritarian

Trump, like Hillary, is a Super Authoritarian, commonly called a social predator

they dominate ordinary authoritarians into leading them into whatever they want them to do
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Old 14-11-2016, 01:48 AM   #123 (permalink)
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I'm looking forward to trump keeping his first day promises...
Don't hold your breath...
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