Thread: President Donald Trump

...^backtracking is a useful skill...

Originally Posted by Norton

In spite of the many pro and anti Trump media sources, in general, folks from all economic and ethnic groups don't pay much attention to the media noise and carry on post Trump as they did pre Trump.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

If you don’t think 10’s of thousands of people (their family/friends) in Florida are cussing this sociopath of a president we have today (while trying to make a living), you would be wrong.

Gotta agree with Norton on this one. Not to say there aren't plenty of loud-mouthed exceptions on both sides.

The older I get, the more I see people who take politics that seriously as to actually argue in anger with relatives or people in public about it as just being grown children. Fighting and stamping their feet in each other's direction over so much nonsense that they will never have any real power to change or control. Its just not a good look

Originally Posted by Norton

Most all the folks I talked to think Trump is a dangerous con artist but so far he's done nothing to adversly impact folks day to day life.

Originally Posted by tomcat

backtracking is a useful skill...

So is creative interpretation.

Originally Posted by redhaze

The older I get, the more I see people who take politics that seriously as to actually argue in anger with relatives or people in public about it as just being grown children.

always unpleasant, but totally different from an afternoon wine session on a Berkeley patio among like-minded friends discussing the deep- frying of tRump's genitals...

Originally Posted by redhaze

Originally Posted by Norton

In spite of the many pro and anti Trump media sources, in general, folks from all economic and ethnic groups don't pay much attention to the media noise and carry on post Trump as they did pre Trump.

Originally Posted by S Landreth

If you don’t think 10’s of thousands of people (their family/friends) in Florida are cussing this sociopath of a president we have today (while trying to make a living), you would be wrong.

Gotta agree with Norton on this one. Not to say there aren't plenty of loud-mouthed exceptions on both sides.

The older I get, the more I see people who take politics that seriously as to actually argue in anger with relatives or people in public about it as just being grown children. Fighting and stamping their feet in each other's direction over so much nonsense that they will never have any real power to change or control. Its just not a good look

Have you been in Thailand too long? To be able to stamp one's foot in the US is a great thing. To be able to voice displeasure at an incompetent buffoon of a leader is something that simply can not be done in Thailand.
In Thailand, because people don't loudly complain, nothing changes.

Originally Posted by redhaze

Gotta agree with Norton on this one.

The oligarchs have you locked. I bet you are anti union.

Labor day came and passed. Unions built the American nation.

I say this with all due respect: What?

My little rant was with all respect too.
It's a good thing that people can stamp their feet.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

In Thailand, because people don't loudly complain, nothing changes.

You're confusing protest with people being socially obtuse. See nub,bs for a fairly consistent example of the latter. Get the impression these random outbursts aren't confined to mere internet fora (although they are admittedly a tad more excusable here)

Originally Posted by Maanaam

My little rant was with all respect too.
It's a good thing that people can stamp their feet.

Its all good. That's what this little thread is all about. I just wonder how many people here are as obnoxious about their shit in real life face to face's. I'm certain many aren't, they just never would have survived this long.

Originally Posted by Maanaam

In Thailand, because people don't loudly complain, nothing changes.

In Thailand people DO loudly complain. They then get jailed or killed.

Originally Posted by redhaze

I say this with all due respect: What?

It was a drunk post please disregard.

Originally Posted by tomcat

different from an afternoon wine session on a Berkeley patio among like-minded friends discussing the deep- frying of tRump's genitals

Ole TC fancies herself a right Resistance member now.

So it's well known by this point that Trump's an inveterate liar but what's astounding are the logic gymnastics performed by his supporters to continue to delude themselves that the Emperor is wearing new clothes:

Of the statements by Trump that the fact-checking site PolitiFact has checked, just 5 percent were deemed absolutely true. Another 26 percent were just “mostly true” or “half true.” But a whopping 69 percent were found to be “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” the site’s worst rating.

Indeed, it seems that every major publication has taken a stab at trying to chronicle and explain Trump’s lying.

The Washington Post calculated that Trump made 492 false or misleading statements in his first 100 days — “That’s an average of 4.9 claims a day” — and that there were only 10 days without a single false claim. There were five days with 20 or more false claims.

[...] while nobody with a brain in their head expected that President Trump would be a great friend to workers, some were naive enough to believe his populist rhetoric and hope that he might not be quite as hostile to them as a different Republican might be. Well the results are in, and it turns out that he’s the most anti-worker president in memory.

[...]

As Trump went around the country in 2016, he promised to turn back the clock to the days when factories were humming and factory towns were growing — and said he’d bring back all the coal jobs to boot. It was a cynical hoax, because the economy of the 1950s and 1960s for which he had such praise was made possible not only by a technological era that is far behind us, but by U.S. labor unions — unions that are under relentless assault from Trump’s party...

[...]

And now we get to the centerpiece of the Trump administration economic plan: A gigantic tax cut for the wealthy and corporations! Of course. On one hand, Trump keeps saying that the economy is doing spectacularly, regularly issuing triumphant tweets about the latest stock market high and saying things like “I’ve created over a million jobs since I’m president.” On the other hand, he says that we absolutely must save the economy, and only this tax cut can do the job.

It’s the same argument that Republicans always make, and it’s just as false as it was the last time we tried it, in the George W. Bush years. So Trump, populist hero, has a message for workers: The only help you’ll get from me is whatever trickles down after I give a big fat check to your boss’ boss, Wall Street bankers and wealthy heirs like my own kids. Did I tell you that the system is rigged? Oh, you bet it is.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/o...ing-obama.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.90c8fc21f52d

Originally Posted by Norton

until an impossibly divided Congress passes legislation is a bad idea.

Seems like a good idea to me.

Drop that shitshow right on those fuckers laps & put it on them.

Originally Posted by Slick

Drop that shitshow right on those fuckers laps & put it on them

agree...I'd like to see who stands where and why...aside from the usual suspects, I mean...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

the logic gymnastics performed by his supporters

And his haters who have written those two opinion pieces.

Originally Posted by Norton

Leaving it in place and pushing Congress to pass legislation to address the issue would have been best. Resending DACA and the protection it ensures to the deamers in limbo until an impossibly divided Congress passes legislation is a bad idea. Chances of getting legislation passed in 6 months are slim and none resulting in 800,000 young folks subject to deportation to countries they have never seen.

The Republicans are going to tear themselves apart over this.

It would be quite amusing and entertaining to see but for the fact that the futures of so many young people are in play.

Originally Posted by Slick

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

the logic gymnastics performed by his supporters

And his haters who have written those two opinion pieces.

Ahh the resounding and intellectually rigorous 'Yeah, well you too!' retort that Slick has come to master and favor.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

It would be quite amusing and entertaining to see but for the fact that the futures of so many young people are in play.

Think of the children!

Sometimes I think that you couldn't be any more of a stereotype even if you tried. You really do play like a parody.

Stats I've read say DACA's have 0% criminal records and over 90% have jobs. If those numbers are true I'm not seeing any positive reason for giving them the boot.

Originally Posted by uncle junior

If those numbers are true I'm not seeing any positive reason for giving them the boot.

depends on who's defining positive...