Thread: President Donald Trump

there's currently an egomaniacal giant orange turd in the White House who takes his foreign policy cues from what he sees on TV...

Cannot imagine the situation when the big guys of Pentagon, D.C., etc. are gathering every day in the WH meeting room, patiently and obediently awaiting the orders of the POTUS (e.g. Trump, Obama, Bush, you name it) who to bomb today and who tomorrow.

what makes you think they're patient...or obedient?...

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Bush was spoken to by God before he launched the Iraq invasion.

and nancy and ronnie were hoping the invasion of lebanon was the beginning of armageddon signalling hoseA's return

Originally Posted by tomcat

what makes you think they're patient...or obedient?...

That's what I cannot imagine...

Oh dear, orange cunto does take this shit personally, he might send another tweet.

North Korea's military has called President Donald Trump's threat warning of "fire and fury" a "load of nonsense."

Chinas State press agency recently referred to his tweets as "emotional venting".

That's what it has come to, the POTUS being treated as a petulant child and taken about as seriously.

Originally Posted by bsnub

Trump warns 'fire and fury' if N.Korea threatens U.S., Pyongyang weighs Guam strike https://www.reuters.com/article/nort...-idUSL4N1KU4QA

Originally Posted by SKkin

Trump Finds Reason for the U.S. to Remain in Afghanistan: Minerals

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/25/w...-deposits.html

Lets not forget, N. Korea has an even larger stash of minerals than Afghanistan.

North Korea is sitting on $6 trillion in mineral resources | New York Post

Largest known rare earth deposit discovered in North Korea | MINING.com

I'm sure that's totally unconnected with any talk of war...

Didn't Congress already repeal the authority of the President to begin a war, after Trump became President?

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Didn't Congress already repeal the authority of the President to begin a war, after Trump became President?

Indeed they did and this is how the founding fathers intended the branches of government to work as checks and balances.

Lawmakers applaud after panel approves language revoking war authority | TheHill

This is further reinforced by the fact that that the Senate has blocked the cheeto in chief from making a recess appointment. That is a MAJOR thing because it required all 100 senators to vote unanimously.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...nts-over-break

That is a clear sign that they are done with this bozo on both sides of the aisle.

When orange cunto sees this he's going to have to organise a bigger one.

Tens of Thousands of North Koreans rallied on Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, after the UN Security Council passed a new round of sanctions and US President Donald Trump threatened the country with "fire and fury" over its missile tests.
Footage from the Wednesday rally showed North Koreans lined up in an organized fashion behind military troops, clapping to remarks made by government leaders.

Some held propaganda placards as they marched through the square, chanting as they pumped their fists in the air.

Politifact reports that at this point in his presidency, Obama had gone golfing 11 times, while Trump has golfed at least 21 times.

Tracking President Trump's Visits to Trump Properties - NBC News

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

When orange cunto sees this he's going to have to organise a bigger one.

Tens of Thousands of North Koreans rallied on Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, after the UN Security Council passed a new round of sanctions and US President Donald Trump threatened the country with "fire and fury" over its missile tests.
Footage from the Wednesday rally showed North Koreans lined up in an organized fashion behind military troops, clapping to remarks made by government leaders.

Some held propaganda placards as they marched through the square, chanting as they pumped their fists in the air.

The difference being?
In NK you are forced by fear of prison if you don't attend.
Trumps rallies are attended by folks who choose to be there.

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

When orange cunto sees this he's going to have to organise a bigger one.

Tens of Thousands of North Koreans rallied on Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, after the UN Security Council passed a new round of sanctions and US President Donald Trump threatened the country with "fire and fury" over its missile tests.
Footage from the Wednesday rally showed North Koreans lined up in an organized fashion behind military troops, clapping to remarks made by government leaders.

Some held propaganda placards as they marched through the square, chanting as they pumped their fists in the air.

Trumps rallies are attended by folks who choose to be there.

Trump rallies are attended by gullible folks who choose to be there. Fixed it for you.

In a new poll, half of Republicans say they would support postponing the 2020 election if Trump proposed it

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.90e001e47fd0

...looking for work:

The Bloom Is Off the Javanka Rose
Trump's daughter and son-in-law proposed to bring a contemporary sensibility to the White House. It hasn't happened.
By Albert R. Hunt

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump were the golden couple destined to dazzle Washington and shape the administration of President Donald Trump. That glitter is gone, replaced by policy failures, poor judgments and ethical embarrassments.

The president's daughter and son-in-law have not brought a contemporary generational sensibility to the White House, as they once proposed to do, and instead have created significant problems.

Kushner, devoid of government experience or diplomatic expertise, was given major foreign-policy assignments. He has made bad relations with Russia worse, and in the process has drawn the attention of the special counsel investigating links between Moscow and Trump political and business interests. He played a role in the administration's bungled intervention in a feud between American allies in the Persian Gulf, and is in over his head in his involvement in the Mideast peace process.

As a senior White House aide, he advocated firing James Comey as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which resulted in the appointment of Robert Mueller as special counsel. The Trump-Kushner couple advocated hiring Anthony Scaramucci, the filthy-mouthed fool who lasted 10 days as White House communications chief. Kushner was caught failing to file required financial disclosures, omitting millions of dollars of holdings and having to file dozens of amended forms. His holdings continue to pose potential conflicts of interest.

The Kushner family real estate empire has some sizable debt; right after the election the Kushners tried, unsuccessfully, to cut a deal with a Chinese investor on one of their properties. It's not known whether there have been subsequent efforts. "The conflict is not so much what they own as to what they owe and who may be bailing them out," said Richard Painter, the ethics lawyer in the George W. Bush administration.

Ivanka Trump told the New York Times in May that she wanted to act as a moderating force within her father's administration, focusing on climate change, family leave, immigration and gay and transgender rights. Since then the president has moved to the right on most of these matters.

She has generated several embarrassing situations. At the July meeting in Germany of world economic powers, she was out of place sitting in briefly for her father at a gathering of heads of state. She won trademarks for her clothing and jewelry lines in China as she was seated next to Chinese President Xi Jinping at a dinner hosted by her father in Florida. She made millions of dollars this year, while a White House aide, from her outside businesses.

"They are in a position to have enormous influence over a range of policies that affect their financial interests," said Painter, who is the vice chairman of Center for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.

Kushner won praise in conservative circles after he testified last month before congressional committees on his dealings with Russians last year. But questions persist, for the public and for Mueller.

One involves a June 2016 meeting with a politically connected Russian lawyer that Kushner attended with his brother-in-law Donald Trump Jr. and campaign manager Paul Manafort; the lawyer had promised to provide damaging information about Hillary Clinton.

After the election, Kushner met with the Russian ambassador to Washington, Sergei Kislyak, and suggested opening a secret communications channel through the Russian embassy. He also met with a leading Moscow banker with close ties to the Kremlin. And early this year in getting national security clearance, he failed to disclose these Russian contacts.

Kushner insists that the meetings were benign and the reporting lapses honest oversights. To critics, it's a pervasive pattern of dubious dealings with a regime that tried to interfere with the U.S. elections.

He has close ties to leaders in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. But this connection, State Department officials say, played a counterproductive role when the president publicly sided with U.A.E. and the Saudis in their feud with Qatar, where the U.S. has a strategic military presence. Defense Secretary James Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson are trying to straighten out the mess.

This fall, the once golden couple is scheduled to go to China at the invitation of that government, to help plan a forthcoming presidential trip. In the past, that's the kind of task that fell to luminaries like Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski.

...for a pic of the recently unemployed couple: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...e-javanka-rose

A good read from Mother Jones' Kevin Drum.


You Should Read the “Maoist Insurgency” Memo. It’s Bananas.

H.R. McMaster has been cleaning house at the National Security Council recently. In particular, last month he fired a protege of Michael Flynn named Rich Higgins for writing some kind of outrageous memo that eventually found its way to Donald Trump’s desk. Did Higgins deserve this just for an ill-considered bit of analysis? Today we can finally make up our own minds, because someone has leaked the full memo to Foreign Policy. Here’s how it starts:

POTUS & POLITICAL WARFARE
May 2017

BACKGROUND. The Trump administration is suffering under withering information campaigns designed to first undermine, then delegitimize and ultimately remove the President. Possibly confusing these attacks with an elevated interplay of otherwise normal D.C. partisan infighting and adversarial media relations, the White House response to these campaigns reflects a political advocacy mindset that it is intensely reactive, severely under-inclusive and dangerously inadequate to the threat. If action is not taken to re-scope and respond to these hostile campaigns very soon, the administration risks implosion and subsequent early departure from the White House.

I’d fire Higgins just for his turgid prose style, but maybe you think that’s too harsh. What does Higgins actually have to say? His thesis, it turns out, is that Trump is the target of a lethal, well-funded, and extremely disciplined attack from cultural Marxists who are employing “political warfare as understood by the Maoist Insurgency model.” It’s hard to figure out which part to excerpt to give you a good taste of his John Birch Society mindset, but here’s a bit of it:

While the attacks on President Trump arise out of political warfare considerations based on non-kinetic lines of effort (as discussed below), they operate in a battle-space prepared, informed and conditioned by cultural Marxist drivers….As used in this discussion, cultural Marxism relates to programs and activities that arise out of Gramsci Marxism, Fabian Socialism and most directly from the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt strategy deconstructs societies through attacks on culture by imposing a dialectic that forces unresolvable contradictions under the rubric of critical theory….These attack narratives are pervasive, full spectrum and institutionalized at all levels. They operate in social media, television, the 24-hour news cycle in all media, and are entrenched at the upper levels of the bureaucracies and within the foreign policy establishment. They inform the entertainment industry from late night monologues, to situation comedies, to television series memes, to movie themes.

….While there is certainly a Marxist agenda and even Islamist motivations that must be seriously addressed in their own right, these motivations alone seem inadequate to explain the scope and magnitude of the effort directed against the president. The economic drivers behind the Marxist and Islamist ideologues are enormously influential and seek to leverage these ideological movements for their own self interests. While beyond the actual scope of this document, the benefactors of these political movements include; Urban Real Estate who depend greatly on immigrant tenants, International Banking who seeks to maintain US debtor status so as to control the application of American power, and elements of the business sector that depend upon immigrant labor or government infrastructure. The overall objective of these economic forces is the forced urbanization of the populace, thereby necessitating a larger, more powerful government. In summary, this is a form of population control by certain business cartels in league with cultural Marxists/corporatists/lslamists who will leverage Islamic terrorism threats to justify the creation of a police state.


Did you make it all the way through that? No? Shame on you. This is only a couple of paragraphs! There are seven full pages of this stuff in the full memo. Apparently Higgins never got the word that Trump doesn’t read anything longer than three or four bullet points.

This is bananas. It’s like a memo version of one of Glenn Beck’s chalkboard fantasias except that it was written by an actual White House official who works at the National Security Council. Apparently McMaster decided he didn’t want anyone at the NSC whose brain was full of gibberish like this, especially when he himself was pretty clearly one of the targets of Higgins’ conspiracy theorizing. So he fired him. Then he fired a few other people associated with the memo.

But there’s more. Apparently the memo was circulated widely, and eventually Don Jr. got hold of it. He passed it along to dad, who loved it. When he found out that the author had been fired, Trump was furious. And according an inside source, “He is still furious.” The upshot of all this, according the FP story, is that McMaster is isolated in the White House because, I guess, he’s one of the few people there who isn’t crazy:

Despite Higgins’s firing, McMaster’s difficulties inside the White House aren’t going away anytime soon — though he might. McMaster “doesn’t really have any allies,” said a source familiar with the NSC staff. “It doesn’t seem as though he has the ear of the president, which is obviously essential to his survival.”

God help us.




This National Security Council memo sounds like it was cooked up by one of TD's nutters!

^ The roots of right wing propaganda and double speak is complex and very deep. They tend to barrage their obedient audience with as much gibberish as possible in an attempt to confuse and create a state of paranoia.

The right wing useful idiots swallow it without question.

^^ Oops. Forgot to link. You Should Read the ?Maoist Insurgency? Memo. It?s Bananas. ? Mother Jones

If you would like to read the whole memo, do so here. Here?s the Memo That Blew Up the NSC | Foreign Policy

Originally Posted by misskit

If you would like to read the whole memo,

No thank you, and I can not believe Trump read it, so how could he claim to love it?
My bet is he read the first sentence. That would have been enough for him to pass judgement favourably as it's his contention too (just the first sentence).

Originally Posted by misskit

BACKGROUND. The Trump administration is suffering under withering information campaigns designed to first undermine, then delegitimize and ultimately remove the President.

Originally Posted by Mandaloopy

What all the Trump supporters would be useful for? When such war is heroically combated from computers in aircon rooms at the other side of the world.

Originally Posted by wasabi

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

When orange cunto sees this he's going to have to organise a bigger one.

Tens of Thousands of North Koreans rallied on Kim Il Sung Square in Pyongyang, after the UN Security Council passed a new round of sanctions and US President Donald Trump threatened the country with "fire and fury" over its missile tests.
Footage from the Wednesday rally showed North Koreans lined up in an organized fashion behind military troops, clapping to remarks made by government leaders.

Some held propaganda placards as they marched through the square, chanting as they pumped their fists in the air.

The difference being?
In NK you are forced by fear of prison if you don't attend.
Trumps rallies are attended by folks who choose to be there.

They're both brainwashed.

Originally Posted by tomcat

The problem is a scarcity of the H-2B visas used to bring foreign seasonal workers to the U.S.

Orange cunto doesn't seem to have any problem getting them.