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Old 12-11-2016, 05:31 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Trump likes main Obamacare provisions 'very much'

US President-elect Donald Trump has said in an interview he is open to leaving intact key parts of President Barack Obama's healthcare bill.

Mr Trump, who has pledged repeatedly to repeal the 2010 law, signalled he was receptive to a compromise after visiting the White House on Thursday.

He told the Wall Street Journal he favours keeping two pillars of the bill because "I like those very much".

One a ban on insurers denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

The other provision that the president-elect told the newspaper he favours allows young adults to be insured on their parents' policies.

Trump likes main Obamacare provisions 'very much' - BBC News
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He's not actually President yet though is he.
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It isn't about Trump or Clinton. It is all about ending the lying cheating government bullshit.
Like Drumpf would even do that if he could. He is a vote for crony capitalism just look at the lobbyists and corporate big wigs lining up for cabinet positions. You are fool and jail is a good place for you.
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It isn't about Trump or Clinton. It is all about ending the lying cheating government bullshit.
Like Drumpf would even do that if he could. He is a vote for crony capitalism just look at the lobbyists and corporate big wigs lining up for cabinet positions. You are fool and jail is a good place for you.
No good trying to explain it to Earl, he just puts his fingers in his ears and hums.
He and Rpeter and the rest just don't seem to be able to understand a big business establishment figure, tax evading Billionaire is not a champion of the little man.
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and the rest just don't seem to be able to understand a big business establishment figure, tax evading Billionaire is not a champion of the little man.
Run that past me again - Trump or Thaksin?
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It isn't about Trump or Clinton. It is all about ending the lying cheating government bullshit.
Like Drumpf would even do that if he could. He is a vote for crony capitalism just look at the lobbyists and corporate big wigs lining up for cabinet positions. You are fool and jail is a good place for you.
No good trying to explain it to Earl, he just puts his fingers in his ears and hums.
He and Rpeter and the rest just don't seem to be able to understand a big business establishment figure, tax evading Billionaire is not a champion of the little man.
You left out the part about a corrupt women who made her millions from speaking to those same big business and selling favors to those countries she claims to abhor the actions of.
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It isn't about Trump or Clinton. It is all about ending the lying cheating government bullshit.
Like Drumpf would even do that if he could. He is a vote for crony capitalism just look at the lobbyists and corporate big wigs lining up for cabinet positions. You are fool and jail is a good place for you.
No good trying to explain it to Earl, he just puts his fingers in his ears and hums.
He and Rpeter and the rest just don't seem to be able to understand a big business establishment figure, tax evading Billionaire is not a champion of the little man.
You left out the part about a corrupt women who made her millions from speaking to those same big business and selling favors to those countries she claims to abhor the actions of.
No I didn't. The conversation is not about her.
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Oh dear.
This might upset a few of the Longways and RPeters of this world.

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Donald Trump appears to soften on Obamacare and Clinton emails
In first interview since winning election, Trump says he may not repeal Obamacare and Clinton’s prosecution not a priority

Donald Trump made his comments in an inteview with the Wall Street Journal.
Donald Trump appears to have softened his stance on a range of sweeping campaign pledges, saying in his first interview since his election as US president that he might not repeal Obamacare and that prosecuting Hillary Clinton over confidential emails was not a priority.

The president-elect, who had said he would “immediately repeal and replace” Obamacare after taking office, told the Wall Street Journal he might instead seek to reform the policy, keeping the ban on insurers denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

He said he would also look to retain the provision that allowed young adults to be insured on their parents’ policies, adding that he had been convinced of the virtues of the two points in his meeting with Barack Obama on Thursday.

Trump and his family also filmed an interview with CBS’s 60 Minutes to be broadcast on Sunday. The president-elect said he would amend, or repeal and replace Obamacare without any gaps in healthcare provision. “It will be just fine. It’s what I do. I do a good job and I know how to do this stuff,” he told Lesley Stahl.

Having called Clinton a “nasty woman” and “crooked” during the campaign, Trump struck a conciliatory tone towards his former opponent in both interviews. The Wall Street Journal asked about campaign promises to appoint a special prosecutor to pursue criminal charges against his Democratic rival over her use of a private email server to conduct official business as secretary of state.

What will be the first actions Trump takes as president?
“It’s not something I’ve given a lot of thought, because I want to solve healthcare, jobs, border control, tax reform,” Trump said. The statement may anger the president-elect’s core supporters, many of whom chanted “lock her up, lock her up,” at campaign rallies.


He told 60 Minutes the call in which Clinton conceded the election was “lovely”, adding: “It was a tough call for her, I can imagine ... She couldn’t have been nicer. She just said ‘congratulations Donald, well done’.”

“She’s very strong and very smart,” he said, adding that Bill Clinton had also called. “He couldn’t have been more gracious. He said it was an amazing run. One of the most amazing he had ever seen,” Trump said of the former president.

The Republican party’s shock victory has led to protests in some cities and on university campuses, and there have been allegations of racist and Islamophobic attacks. Trump told the Wall Street Journal he wanted to soothe the febrile public mood. “I want a country that loves each other,” he said . The best way to do this was by creating jobs.”

Asked whether the tone of his campaign had gone too far, he said: “No. I won.”

The vice president-elect, Mike Pence, will play a key role in his administration, serving as a liaison with Congress, Trump said. On Friday Trump put Pence in charge of his transition team, while his daughter, Ivanka, her husband, Jared Kushner, and his sons Eric and Donald Jr joined the executive committee. The PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel and Stephen Bannon, the former chairman of Breitbart News who directed Trump’s campaign, are also on the committee.

On foreign policy, Trump described resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict as “the ultimate deal … As a dealmaker, I’d like to do … the deal that can’t be made. And do it for humanity’s sake,” he said.


On Syria, he said his focus would be on fighting Islamic State rather than getting rid of the country’s president, Bashar al-Assad. “Russia is now totally aligned with Syria, and now you have Iran, which is becoming powerful, because of us, is aligned with Syria … Now we’re backing rebels against Syria, and we have no idea who these people are,” he said.

He said had received a “beautiful” letter from the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, and would speak to him soon.

Protesters across the US have been preparing for a weekend of demonstrations in response to Trump’s election, as other activists began work on plans to disrupt his inauguration in Washington early next year.

Rowdy protests against Trump and a campaign that was widely criticised as divisive have spread to cities all over the country following his victory on Tuesday, leading to dozens of arrests and a complaint from Trump on Twitter about “professional protesters” in one of his first public remarks as president-elect.

Early on Saturday morning a man was shot at a protest in Portland, Oregon, where police also reported that “burning projectiles” had been thrown at officers. Portland police announced 25 arrests and described the situation as a riot.

More than 10,000 people have signed up to attend a march at midday on Saturday from New York’s Union Square to Trump Tower, the future president’s home and corporate headquarters. “Join us in the streets! Stop Trump and his bigoted agenda,” the organisers of the said in a Facebook post.

The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan said on their website they would be holding a “victory parade” in North Carolina next month. The vote’s aftermath has seen reports of racist and other discriminatory attacks. The Southern Poverty Law Center has logged more than 200 such incidents since Wednesday. Richard Cohen, the organisation’s president, told the New York Times: “I don’t think there’s any question that there’s been an increase.”

In Europe, politicians expressed deep misgivings about the Republican’s victory and attacked Theresa May’s hopes that the result would lead to a good trade deal for Britain as delusional.

Axel Schafer, a senior German politician, told the Times: “Even before Tuesday the chances were rather low, now the hope for this kind of deal seems delusional ... With a more inward-looking Trump administration, it is in United Kingdom’s own interest to seek close cooperation with their EU partners in this field.”

Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European commission, said Trump needed to learn “what Europe is and how it works.”

“I think we will waste two years before Mr Trump tours the world he does not know,” he said.

Boris Johnson, the UK foreign secretary, described the EU’s reaction as “whinge-o-rama” and the Foreign Office told the Times it had not yet decided whether he would attend a European “crisis” meeting to discuss the US election result.

The former MI6 chief Sir John Sawers struck a cautionary tone in an interview with the BBC’s World At One. “We’re getting back into a world which is quite dangerous,” he said, raising the prospect of the US going to war with Russia or China.
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FYI:

Hillary Clinton: 60,071,781 popular votes (47.7%)(228 electoral votes)
Donald Trump: 59,791,135 popular votes (47.5%)(290 electoral votes)
Gary Johnson: 4,102,585 popular votes (3%)
Jill Stein: 1,228,862 popular votes (1%)
Other candidates: 817,850
TOTAL: 126,012,213

After Trump's win, markets take a pause, and with good reason
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Hillary Clinton: 60,071,781 popular votes (47.7%)(228 electoral votes)
Donald Trump: 59,791,135 popular votes (47.5%)(290 electoral votes)
Gary Johnson: 4,102,585 popular votes (3%)
Jill Stein: 1,228,862 popular votes (1%)
Other candidates: 817,850
TOTAL: 126,012,213

After Trump's win, markets take a pause, and with good reason
Was on the phone with my investment firm yesterday and the agent said they were experiencing one of the highest call volumes ever. Seems a lot of investors moving toward more stable elections.
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perhaps the one we should be worrying about is pence.

trump is 70 years old and fat.

i doubt trump makes it to 2020.

take a look at some of the before/after shots of presidents. it's a demanding job.

How Presidents Age in Office - Photo Essays - TIME
Are we taking bets on a one-term wonder? I don't think Trump wants to do 2 terms... he's the bloke in the bar shouting at the TV... he'll be on delegation overdrive from the golf course. I reckon Trump will get very bored of being in charge after a year... he'll be looking for a new train set to play with The UN?!

Bets on President Pence? aged 57 now...
Anyone take 50 sadairng on Julian Castro for the Demogogues in 2020?
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I don't think Trump wants to do 2 terms..
Lady Gaga is obviously going to beat the shit out of him in the next one anyway. With a unicorn as her running mate.
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290 electoral votes
a very comfortable win,

Hillary didn't win the popular vote, how many voted for her by default ?

he won in a landslide,
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perhaps the one we should be worrying about is pence.

trump is 70 years old and fat.

i doubt trump makes it to 2020.

take a look at some of the before/after shots of presidents. it's a demanding job.

How Presidents Age in Office - Photo Essays - TIME
Are we taking bets on a one-term wonder? I don't think Trump wants to do 2 terms... he's the bloke in the bar shouting at the TV... he'll be on delegation overdrive from the golf course. I reckon Trump will get very bored of being in charge after a year... he'll be looking for a new train set to play with The UN?!

Bets on President Pence? aged 57 now...
Anyone take 50 sadairng on Julian Castro for the Demogogues in 2020?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United... l_candidates
His health is fine, he had a brutal schedule over the final month, doing 2-3 rallies a day, sometimes more. He worked extremely hard and spent a lot of his own money and he didn't do that to just blow it off. Wishful thinking.

However the point about Pence is valid, impeach Trump and you get Pence. Checkmate libtards. You better pray to satan that Trump stays in good health. Trump has outsmarted you yet again.

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Trump used one of his own aircraft to fly over to meet Obama, he didn't ask the tax payer to get him there.
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Here is a little reality check for all the Liberals out there.

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It's amusing watching all you little authoritarians running around like toddlers with a new lollipop now that Daddy is headed for the Whitehouse.

Enjoy it while you can, because you have bought a pig in a poke and when that realization sets in you are going to crash hard.

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^ Check mate libtard, impeach Trump, I dare you.

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^ Check mate libtard, impeach Trump, I dare you.
I can't really consider myself a liberal because liberals are supposed to be against the death penalty and in favour of helping the less fortunate and stuff whereas I think people like you should be taken out and shot for being so f*cking willfully stupid.
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Trump used one of his own aircraft to fly over to meet Obama, he didn't ask the tax payer to get him there.
Yet. But of real concern is the fact that Trump has placed his children on his transition team. An obvious conflict of interest in view of the fact that they hold key positions in Trump companies.
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Trump used one of his own aircraft to fly over to meet Obama, he didn't ask the tax payer to get him there.
Yet. But of real concern is the fact that Trump has placed his children on his transition team. An obvious conflict of interest in view of the fact that they hold key positions in Trump companies.
And so begins the Trump dynasty. In 4 years rather than hold elections I think he'll just hand power to one of his sons.
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Prediction professor’ who called Trump’s big win also made another forecast: Trump will be impeached

By Peter W. Stevenson November 11

Prof. Allan Lichtman was one of the few professional prognosticators to call a Donald Trump win – and now he has another prediction. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Few prognosticators predicted a Donald Trump victory ahead of Tuesday night. Polls showed Hillary Clinton comfortably ahead, and much of America (chiefly the media) failed to anticipate the wave of pro-Trump support that propelled him to victory. But a Washington, D.C.-based professor insisted that Trump was lined up for a win — based on the idea that elections are “primarily a reflection on the performance of the party in power.”

Allan Lichtman uses a historically based system of what he calls “keys” to predict election results ahead of time. The keys are explained in-depth in Lichtman’s book, “Predicting the Next President: The Keys to the White House 2016.” In our conversations in September and October, he outlined how President Obama's second term set the Democrats up for a tight race, and his keys tipped the balance in Trump's favor, even if just barely.

At the end of our September conversation, Lichtman made another call: that if elected, Trump would eventually be impeached by a Republican Congress that would prefer a President Mike Pence — someone whom establishment Republicans know and trust.

“I'm going to make another prediction,” he said. “This one is not based on a system; it's just my gut. They don't want Trump as president, because they can't control him. He's unpredictable. They'd love to have Pence — an absolutely down-the-line, conservative, controllable Republican. And I'm quite certain Trump will give someone grounds for impeachment, either by doing something that endangers national security or because it helps his pocketbook.”

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