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    Quote Originally Posted by pickel
    The picture might skew perception, but the fact is only 34 players of 68 on the active roster attended. Two years ago it was 50.
    Patriots Hit Back At New York Times Over White House Tweet « CBS Boston

    Apparently the Patriots are saying it was 36 players in attendance in the older photo and 34 in the newer. And the New York Times sports editor is calling the original tweet a "blunder".

    Out of context and misleading is a spot on description of the original photo tweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Donald Trump, the US president, has been accused of "shocking ignorance" after asserting that Korea "used to be a part of China" shortly after a meeting with Xi Jinping
    This type of stupidity is what is so dangerous about this clown. Smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Out of context and misleading is a spot on description of the original photo tweet.
    And the current media as a whole.

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    Which goes back to the statement that there is no such thing as accurate and truthful news. It all just depends on what direction do they want to spin it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Which goes back to the statement that there is no such thing as accurate and truthful news. It all just depends on what direction do they want to spin it.
    Exactly, it's up to you to look at other news sources reporting the same info and then decide on the issue.

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    Let's put it in perspective. As many players stood the orange-faced wanker up as attended. Brady made his excuses (his mum has cancer) so he gets an orange-faced wanker pass.

    The rest will probably have nasty tweets written about them.


    Here's the list of players who did not attend:

    QB Tom Brady
    RB LeGarrette Blount
    RB Brandon Bolden
    RB Dion Lewis
    RB James White
    WR Danny Amendola
    WR Michael Floyd
    TE Martellus Bennett
    G Shaq Mason
    OT LaAdrian Waddle
    DT Alan branch
    DT Malcom Brown
    DE Chris Long
    DT Vincent Valentine
    LB Dont'a Hightower
    DT Darius Kilgo
    CB Malcolm Butler
    S Patrick Chung
    S Duron Harmon
    CB Cyrus Jones
    S Devin McCourty
    CB Logan Ryan
    P Ryan Allen
    LB Jonathan Freeny
    G Tre' Jackson
    TE Greg Scruggs
    OL Chris Barker
    LB Trevor Bates
    OL Jamil Douglas
    OL Chase Farris
    RB Tyler Gaffney
    DT Woodrow Hamilton
    WR Devin Lucien
    WR DeAndrew White

    While we know about the 34 who attended, the 34 who didn't isn't an official number. The lineup of players in attendance usually includes those on the active roster, injured reserve and practice squad (more than just the 53 on the main roster).

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    ^ Nobody gives a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Which goes back to the statement that there is no such thing as accurate and truthful news. It all just depends on what direction do they want to spin it.
    Exactly, it's up to you to look at other news sources reporting the same info and then decide on the issue.
    Big to do about nothing, IMHO, unlike the huge crowd that showed up for Obama's inauguration compared to tRump. That was worth crowing about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Which goes back to the statement that there is no such thing as accurate and truthful news. It all just depends on what direction do they want to spin it.
    Exactly, it's up to you to look at other news sources reporting the same info and then decide on the issue.
    Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    ^ Nobody gives a fuck.
    Yet funnily you gave enough of a fuck to comment.


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    Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference
    Mental health experts say President is 'paranoid and delusional'

    May Bulman @maybulman 6 hours ago

    Donald Trump has a “dangerous mental illness” and is not fit to lead the US, a group of psychiatrists has warned during a conference at Yale University.

    Mental health experts claimed the President was “paranoid and delusional”, and said it was their “ethical responsibility” to warn the American public about the “dangers” Mr Trump’s psychological state poses to the country.

    Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said: “We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness.”

    Dr Gartner, who is also a founding member of Duty to Warn, an organisation of several dozen mental health professionals who think Mr Trump is mentally unfit to be president, said the President's statement about having the largest crowd at an inauguration was just one of many that served as warnings of a larger problem.

    “Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was President. If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional,” he added.

    Chairing the event, Dr Bandy Lee, assistant clinical professor in the Yale Department of Psychiatry, said: “As some prominent psychiatrists have noted, [Trump’s mental health] is the elephant in the room. I think the public is really starting to catch on and widely talk about this now.”

    James Gilligan, a psychiatrist and professor at New York University, told the conference he had worked some of the “most dangerous people in society”, including murderers and rapists — but that he was convinced by the “dangerousness” of Mr Trump.

    “I’ve worked with some of the most dangerous people our society produces, directing mental health programmes in prisons,” he said.

    “I’ve worked with murderers and rapists. I can recognise dangerousness from a mile away. You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is.”

    Dr Gartner started an online petition earlier this year on calling for Mr Trump to be removed from office, which claims that he is “psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President”. The petition has so far garnered more than 41,000 signatures.

    It states: “We, the undersigned mental health professionals (please state your degree), believe in our professional judgment that Donald Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States.

    “And we respectfully request he be removed from office, according to article 4 of the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which states that the president will be replaced if he is 'unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office'."

    The claims made in the conference have drawn criticism from some in the psychiatric establishment, who say they violate the American Psychiatric Association’s “Goldwater rule,” which states psychiatrists are not to give professional opinions on people they have not personally examined.

    They have also been condemned by Republicans, including Connecticut Republican Party Chairman JR Romano, who accused the group of “throwing ethical standards out the window because they cannot accept the election results.”

    Responding to the criticism, Dr Gartner said: “This notion that you need to personally interview someone to form a diagnosis actually doesn’t make a whole lotta sense. For one thing, research shows that the psychiatric interview is the least statistical reliable way to make a diagnosis.”

    A spokesperson for Yale University told The Independent the panel at the conference abided by the Goldwater rule during the discussions, but that the organiser was "troubled" by the "silencing of debate".

    “The panel at Yale School of Medicine abided by ‘the Goldwater rule'. Eminent psychiatrists were invited to speak about whether there are other ethical rules that override it, as in ordinary practise," said the spokesperson.

    "The organiser, Dr Bandy Lee, agrees with the Goldwater rule but is troubled by its recent expansion (as of March 16, 2017) and the silencing of debate. She hopes that the public and politicians will understand that mental health issues are not to be used as a weapon, just as other health issues are not.

    "Dr Gartner was invited as an activist and was not on the actual panel. The organiser emphasises that the event was independently organised and did not represent the views of Yale University or Yale School of Medicine.”

    The doctors have said that even if it is in breach of tradition ethical standards of psychiatry, it was necessary to break their silence on the matter because they feared “too much is at stake”.

    It is not the first time Mr Trump's mental health has been called into question. In February, Duty to Warn, which consists of psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, signed an open letter warning that his mental state “makes him incapable of serving safely as president”.

    The letter warned that the President’s tendency to “distort reality” to fit his “personal myth of greatness” and attack those who challenge him with facts was likely to increase in a position of power.

    Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference | The Independent

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    ^
    Are the doctors all Democrats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    ^
    Are the doctors all Democrats?
    You're telling me this isn't spot on?

    the President’s tendency to “distort reality” to fit his “personal myth of greatness” and attack those who challenge him with facts
    Absolutely fucking nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Absolutely fucking nailed it
    ...not if you're part of his base...all this negativity toward tRump washes over the unwashed....this stuff might make the propagators feel superior, but it does little to diminish the support he receives from those who feel forgotten by typical politicians and want revenge, the country be damned! Dems need to find a way to reconnect with these narrow-minded, self-centered befuddled morons...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    narrow-minded, self-centered befuddled morons
    Leave Hillary and the DNC out of this discussion...Humbert gets excited when we veer off topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin
    Humbert gets excited when we veer off topic.
    Oh, I have no problem when we stray off into extraneous political discussions but it's a bridge too far when it becomes a mind numbing nostalagia session for ex-swabbies. Why don't you start a thread where you can all compare your knowledge about seamanship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Absolutely fucking nailed it
    ...not if you're part of his base...all this negativity toward tRump washes over the unwashed....this stuff might make the propagators feel superior, but it does little to diminish the support he receives from those who feel forgotten by typical politicians and want revenge, the country be damned! Dems need to find a way to reconnect with these narrow-minded, self-centered befuddled morons...
    You're absolutely spot on right. And ... you're also exactly the reason why it will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    you're also exactly the reason why it will never happen
    well, me and folks like me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    Donald Trump has 'dangerous mental illness', say psychiatry experts at Yale conference
    Mental health experts say President is 'paranoid and delusional'
    He shows signs of a form of paraphrenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    you're also exactly the reason why it will never happen
    well, me and folks like me...
    And there are lots of you. Just log into FB and find Connie Schultz page (wife of Sherrod Brown). Just hordes of smug type posting there.

    PS ... You made an assumption and like many smug liberals you were wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    and like many smug liberals you were wrong
    you're suggesting there are some smug liberals who got it right then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    and like many smug liberals you were wrong
    you're suggesting there are some smug liberals who got it right then...
    No, I'm suggesting, or agreeing, it's smug liberals who got us into this situation we have with tRump sitting in the Oval Office.

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    ...^if only we had listened to you, everything would have turned out just as we wanted...

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    ... fat chance of that happening. Voters take my advice about as seriously as they do yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Voters take my advice about as seriously as they do yours
    I don't give advice...I merely point out delusions of adequacy...

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