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    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin
    I'd like to see the USS Malcolm X or the USS John Trudell...
    I think naming navy combat vessels after politicians and political figures is a flawed concept (especially controversial/junior/still living). If they are named after people then they should be service personnel with outstanding valour records to inspire the members serving on the vessel.

    Otherwise just stick to states/rivers/place names like they used to do.
    I agree. One of my nominees mentioned did serve in the US Navy.

    In 1963 when 17 years old, Trudell dropped out of high school and left the Midwest by joining the US Navy. He served during the early years of the Vietnam War and stayed in the Navy until 1967.
    John Trudell, Writing career, Military service, Film career

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    These were interesting reads on how war ships got their names and what those names meant.

    https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/au...heir-names.htm

    14 odd names for Royal Navy ships - The News

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    oh, back to your off topic ship naming BS again I see.

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    The USS Humbert:


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    ^ Most excellent retort ...

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    ^^ 555

    direct strike amidships from SKkin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    Bloomberg View reported that Rice requested the names to be "unmasked" during broader intelligence probes. The names of U.S. citizens swept up in intelligence gathering are obscured by default, but officials can formally request to see them.

    Rice has denied the allegations.

    "I think the Susan Rice thing is a massive story," Trump told The New York Times earlier this month, saying he did believe Rice acted illegally without providing evidence.
    democrats and republicans on the house committee investigating this mess have both said that rice didn't do anything illegal.

    nice try, trumptards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    These were interesting reads on how war ships got their names and what those names meant.

    https://www.mesothelioma.com/blog/au...heir-names.htm

    14 odd names for Royal Navy ships - The News
    Thanks Rick

    HMS Cockchafer and HMS Spanker..!!

    God bless all who sail in them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    oh, back to your off topic ship naming BS again I see.
    Oh, this makes me smile......

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    Must be guilty. Clearly a sexual predator.

    Dont forget Jessica Drake, the pornstar
    She's in the list if you'd bothered to read it, numbnuts. Besides which when would that give him the right to grab her pussy or anything else?

    And what about the rest?
    Ah, calm down Limey. Remember that The Donald is half Scotts and half German (Where did the house of Windsor come from? )

    Soooo, he is just acting like a lad, am I right?

    PS- After the Romans brought Limey Land to heel, did they ever subjugate the Scotts

    Ah now I have you sir, the lesser of two weevils

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancelot
    did they ever subjugate the Scotts
    never got past the smell...

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    a bit of background....it's become a tradition for the championship sports teams in the US to visit the white house.

    somebody makes a few jokes, the president says congratulations, and maybe the team gives him a jersey with his name on it. nothing too exciting, but i'm sure it's a good time.

    in 2015 the patriots won the super bowl and went to obama's white house....in 2017, the patriots won again and visited trump's white house.

    take a look at the photos below:






    trump and spicer are likely having flashbacks to the inauguration crowd photos.

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    I notice they didn't have a shirt in the fat c u n t's size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    the fat c u n t's size.
    he's the fattest and oldest president since william howard taft was in office ~100 years ago.

    According to the results of a physical that Trump revealed on the Dr. Oz show, he is 6-foot-3 and weighs 236 pounds. This would give him a body mass index (BMI) of 29.5, just shy of the “obese” category. Politico, however, obtained a copy of Trump’s New York driver’s license, on which his height was reported as 6-foot-2. Conspiracy theorists will note the sudden mysterious growth spurt. Nevertheless, when the president is driving a motor vehicle, anyway, no one can deny that he is officially obese
    Is Donald Trump Obese? An Investigation - Men's Journal

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    trump and spicer are likely having flashbacks to the inauguration crowd photos.
    I wish CNN would post up the pictures of the events just to get a rise out of trump.

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    There's an extra table and trophy and more balls in the 2017 pic...^^^^


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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda
    the fat c u n t's size.
    he's the fattest and oldest president since william howard taft was in office ~100 years ago.

    According to the results of a physical that Trump revealed on the Dr. Oz show, he is 6-foot-3 and weighs 236 pounds. This would give him a body mass index (BMI) of 29.5, just shy of the “obese” category. Politico, however, obtained a copy of Trump’s New York driver’s license, on which his height was reported as 6-foot-2. Conspiracy theorists will note the sudden mysterious growth spurt. Nevertheless, when the president is driving a motor vehicle, anyway, no one can deny that he is officially obese
    Is Donald Trump Obese? An Investigation - Men's Journal
    It's OK they found one for the fat bastard. Probably bought a tent and had it modified.

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    Mind you it seems the orange-faced wanker has put his foot in his considerably large mouth once again...

    Donald Trump, the US president, has been accused of "shocking ignorance" after asserting that Korea "used to be a part of China" shortly after a meeting with Xi Jinping, the Chinese president.
    Donald Trump accused of 'shocking ignorance' as he repeats Chinese claim that Korea was part of China

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    he's the fattest and oldest president since william howard taft was in office ~100 years ago.
    ** 27th President
    ** 10th Chief Justice
    ** 42nd Secretary of War
    ** 1st Provisional Governor of Cuba
    ** Governor-General of the Philippines
    ** Judge of the Court of Appeals for 6th District
    ** 6th Solicitor General


    Probably unfair to compare an accomplished guy like Taft to Trump even if he was fat you pusillanimous pissant.

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    Trump gets tough on NK. About time.

    Thanks to Donald Trump, the international community now knows that the United States is a force to be reckoned with.

    Gone are the days when dictators and allies alike disdained a professorial president who preferred nuclear diplomacy to nuclear war. If only Barack Obama had played more golf at luxury resorts, his successor would not have to bring such golden luster to such a copper world.

    Less than 100 days into this presidency, it is blissfully clear what kind of leader Trump is. He has made the awesome transition from a neophyte candidate into a neophyte president; from a man who bluffed and blustered his way in TV debates to a man who bluffs and blusters his way through international crises.

    Here is a small-time businessman who knew nothing about foreign affairs, who has grown into a nuclear-armed president who knows nothing about foreign affairs. He used to fire B-list celebrities on TV; now he just fires off tweets and Tomahawks after watching TV.

    To put it mildly, it is troubling for any White House – at a time of high tensions with a rogue nuclear state – to act as dumb or duplicitous as Donald Trump. Machiavelli argued that it is better to be feared than loved. It’s also better to look like something other than a fool.

    Because that’s what you look like when you misstate the mission and location of an entire aircraft carrier group: specifically, the USS Carl Vinson, a Nimitz class, nuclear-powered beast of the seas, accompanied by a strike force of two destroyers and a cruiser.

    How does such confusion begin? In an epic interview with Fox Business Network, President Trump made it clear he was getting tough with North Korea. But he was also cunningly mysterious about what he was doing.


    “You never know, do you? You never know … I don’t want to talk about it,” he told his interviewer before, you know, talking about it.

    “We are sending an armada, very powerful. We have submarines, very powerful, far more powerful than the aircraft carrier, that I can tell you. And we have the best military people on Earth. And I will say this. He is doing the wrong thing. He is doing the wrong thing.”

    As an explanation of a nuclear crisis, this is right up there with his February press conference, when he spilled the secrets about his classified briefings on nuclear war with Russia: “Nuclear holocaust would be like no other.”

    The only problem is that the Carl Vinson armada wasn’t sailing towards North Korea. It was sailing away from Pyongyang. A long, long way away: more than 3,500 miles away to the Indian Ocean for a joint exercise with the Australian navy.

    In any kind of standoff with a rogue nuclear power, it’s helpful to avoid this kind of buffoonery. Vice-President Mike Pence traveled to the Korean peninsula to warn the North not to test Donald Trump. He declared ominously that “the era of strategic patience is over” in what was surely the most reckless formulation of words since “the axis of evil” left the lips of George W Bush.


    Trump loses track of US fleet at sea
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    Now we know that the era of strategic impatience needs to wait a little longer for the aircraft carrier to sail 3,500 miles back to the hot zone. Do not test Donald Trump’s resolve or, for that matter, his naval knowledge.

    The problem with this kind of chest-thumping is that it spills across the whole team of once professional adults. Defense secretary Jim Mattis and national security adviser HR McMaster played their own part in leaving the impression that the aircraft carrier was steaming towards Korea. Serving a clueless boss, their reputations are growing tarnished on a daily basis, like that of the United States itself.


    The nuclear standoff with North Korea has already been compared to the Cuban missile crisis. So it’s worth recalling that when JFK wanted to win over France’s General de Gaulle, he sent Dean Acheson to show him the photographic proof that was leading the world to the brink of nuclear war. De Gaulle said he had no need to see the photos because he trusted Acheson, and the United States, to tell the truth.

    This kind of credibility is in desperately short supply in the hands of a president who explains his first military intervention in these terms, in his now infamous Fox Business interview: “I was sitting at the table. We had finished dinner. We’re now having dessert. And we had the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you’ve ever seen and President Xi was enjoying it. And I was given the message from the generals that the ships are locked and loaded, what do you do?”

    What indeed? Like a wonderful ganache, this is a story that is so delicious it is sometimes hard to recall every crumb of detail. “So what happens is I said, ‘We’ve just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq and I wanted you to know this.’ And he was eating his cake. And he was silent.”

    If you were the Chinese president sitting opposite a nuclear-armed president who couldn’t tell Iraq from Syria, you too might remain silent and savor every bite of the last chocolate cake you might encounter on this planet.

    Based on his extensive viewing of Fox News, Trump had thought the North Korean crisis would be pretty simple to fix: a bit of pressure on President Xi to cut off North Korea’s economy, and hey presto! But it turns out this whole Asian thing is a bit harder to game out, as he explained to the Wall Street Journal.


    “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized that it’s not so easy,” he explained about trade across the North Korean border. “A lot of goods come in. But it’s not what you would think.”

    This is sadly not a once-in-a-blue-moon gaffe. It is a pattern of behavior that is only understandable among teenage students who prefer to play video games rather than tackle their homework.

    After all, this is how our president explained the North Korea crisis to another incisive interviewer on the wonderfully named show Fox and Friends: “I hope there’s going to be peace, but they’ve been talking with this gentleman for a long time. You read Clinton’s book and he said, ‘Oh, we made such a great peace deal’ and it was a joke … You look at different things over the years with President Obama. Everybody has been outplayed. They’ve all been outplayed by this gentleman, and we’ll see what happens.”

    Perhaps all North Korean leaders look alike to President Trump. But Clinton’s deal with North Korea was with the Dear Leader, Kim Jong-il, the father of the current leader Kim Jong-un.

    George W Bush may have lost all credibility by invading a country for non-existent weapons of mass destruction. But at least he knew which country he was invading, and which direction his ships were sailing in. He knew the difference between Saddam Hussein and King Hussein.

    The world is facing a unique challenge as Trump grapples with Kim. In a standoff between two unpredictable and vainglorious nuclear-armed leaders who are obsessed with pop culture and conspiracies, the only sane course of action is clear: focus on your chocolate cake.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...a-armada-gaffe

    A US aircraft carrier-led flotilla that the White House said last week was “steaming” towards North Korea to increase pressure on Pyongyang was actually thousands of miles away heading in the opposite direction.

    The USS Carl Vinson and three other ships were on Tuesday heading towards North Korea but only after a string of misleading statements about their original course put out last week from the Trump administration.

    The confusion about the flotilla’s course threatened to overshadow a visit to Japan by the US vice-president, Mike Pence, intended to demonstrate US resolve over North Korea. Speaking aboard the USS Ronald Reagan at its home port of Yokosuka on Wednesday, Pence pledged to strengthen the US presence in the Asia Pacific region.
    “We will defeat any attack and beat any use of conventional or nuclear weapons with an overwhelming and effective American response,” he said.

    In Washington, officials are facing questions and criticism over the location and original course of the Vinson flotilla, after it was photographed 3,500 miles away from North Korea, sailing south in the Sunda Strait at a time officials said it was sailing north.

    On 11 April, the defence secretary, James Mattis, said the Vinson was “on her way up” to the peninsula. The White House spokesman, Sean Spicer, said “when you a see a carrier group steaming into an area like that [it] is clearly a huge deterrence”.

    The following day, Donald Trump said: “We are sending an armada. Very powerful.”

    Late on Tuesday, the Pentagonsaid the aircraft carrier was finally heading north, after it had sailed south to take part in a preplanned training exercise with the Australian navy. Spokeswoman Dana White told the New York Times: “The ship is now moving north to the western Pacific. This should have been communicated more clearly at the time.”

    The Carl Vinson and its strike force will not reach the seas off the Korean peninsula until next month.

    On Wednesday, Spicer denied that the Trump administration misled or failed to correct news reports that the Vinson flotilla was en route to North Korea when, in fact, it was traveling in the opposite direction.

    “The statement that was put out was that the Carl Vinson group was headed to the Korean peninsula. It is headed to the Korean peninsula,” Spicer said.

    Pressed by reporters as to why White House officials did not attempt to clarify the conflicting information about the Vinson’s whereabouts, Spicer said neither the administration nor the military provided a timetable for the forces’ deployment to the Sea of Japan.

    “I think we were asked very clearly about the use of a carrier group in terms of deterrence and foreign presence and what that meant. That’s what we discussed,” Spicer told reporters.

    Speaking from Saudi Arabia on Wednesday, Mattis also refused to say that he had wrongly contributed to the narrative that an American flotilla was racing toward the Korean peninsula.

    “We’re doing exactly what we said we were going to do,” Mattis said. “She will be on her way, and I’ll determine when she gets there and where she actually operates, but the Vinson is going to be part of our ensuring that we stand by our allies in the north-west Pacific.”

    Joel Wit, a co-founder of the 38 North programme of the US-Korea Institute at Johns Hopkins University, said the confusion was “very perplexing” and fed into North Korea’s narrative that America is all bluster and does not follow through on threats.

    Thermonuclear war possible ‘at any moment’, warns North Korea
    “If you are going to threaten the North Koreans, you better make sure your threat is credible,” Wit said. “If you threaten them and your threat is not credible, it’s only going to undermine whatever your policy toward them is.”


    The US ratcheted up its rhetoric ahead of North Korea’s military parade and failed missile launch over the weekend. Kim Jong-un, North Korea’s leader, responded with his own fiery warnings and threatened to conduct weekly missile tests.

    But since the Florida summit between Trump and the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, earlier this month, Beijing has signalled it would be willing to step up pressure on Pyongyang if the regime continued to defy international pressure.

    A Chinese embassy official in Washington said on Wednesday: “We believe we should take important and necessary measures to show to the North Koreans that there are serious consequences for another nuclear test or another missile launch, and that’s no doubt about that.”

    Adam Mount, a senior fellow at the Centre for American Progress, said that while such pledges of increased pressure on North Korea are quite common from Beijing, they are becoming more credible.

    “I think the Chinese are in two minds. There are some who see North Korea as a buffer against US power, but others who see North Korea as a long-term threat to regional stability,” Mount said. “There is a transition in China now towards seeing DPRK as a threat to stability, but there will continue to be frequent backsliding and mixed messages because Chinese activity will reflect the fact there are different points of view in Beijing.”

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    An ignorant stupid, DANGEROUS IN HIS STUPIDITY bufooooooon
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKkin View Post
    There's an extra table and trophy and more balls in the 2017 pic...^^^^

    Apparently good ole ray has jumped the gun with those pictures he posted. The Patriots organization has come out and said the first photo included various staff. But for the second photo it's only players and staff were excluded.

    Nice picture and wish it was fact but apparently ray is spreading bullshite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Nice picture and wish it was fact but apparently ray is spreading bullshite.
    Thats correct. Next he will use the giggling emoticon and call everyone 'snowflakes'...

    Or have a long winded meltdown full of fucked up punctuation and massive run-on sentences.

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    looks like our greatest POTUS is trying to pickup a fight with the Iranians now,

    I wonder how is it that going to end after the North Korean disaster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storekeeper
    Nice picture and wish it was fact but apparently ray is spreading bullshite.
    The picture might skew perception, but the fact is only 34 players of 68 on the active roster attended. Two years ago it was 50.

    34 Patriots players make trip to White House, 34 don’t

    The New England Patriots made the annual Super Bowl championship trip to the White House on Wednesday. A total of 68 players from the active roster, practice squad, and injured reserve list were invited.
    Via CSN New England, 34 of the players went. Another 34 didn’t.
    Not all players skipped for political reasons, but multiple Patriots made it clear that they opted not to attend due to issues with the administration. In the past, players have skipped the event for similar reasons, including for example former Ravens center Matt Birk, who chose not to go due to President Barack Obama’s support for Planned Parenthood.
    Two years ago, 50 showed up for the White House visit following the team’s victory in Super Bowl XLIX.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...house-34-dont/

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