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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    though, as you've probably read, "unpredictability" in foreign affairs is trump's strategy (to keep adversaries like russia and china guessing).
    Unpredictability starts wars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    Unpredictability starts wars...
    what's led to all the wars the u.s. started in the middle east? unpredictability from the neo-cons? no

    trump won't have a problem with russia (even though the neo-cons want one and with iran) and keeping china on her toes aint a bad thing. remember china taking a u.s. plane to hainan the first month (or so) of the bush admin?

    which country do you think trump is at risk of going to war with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick
    And spanish speakers that cant speak english. I imagine that latinos that cant speak english would not be a huge fan of Trump.
    again, it's clear you don't understand how polling works.

    do everyone a favor and get better informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farangrakthai
    which country do you think trump is at risk of going to war with?
    any country which he feels has insulted him.

    posted half in jest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycarey
    do everyone a favor and get better informed.


    Parrot Parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    The people that actually do the work are career government employees that report to trump's mouthpiece
    Probably went unnoticed by most. GOP congress just had an 1876 law reinstated that allows government civil service employee's salaries to be reduced to $1 at the pleasure of the bosses they serve. This will allow for Trump to fire anyone he perceives as disloyal and fill the jobs with those that toe the party line. Interestingly this is one the same laws Hitler introduced when he rose to power. He has already asked for lists in federal departments of people who favor policies he does not agree with. Another insidious move to abet Trump's move toward authoritarian control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    The people that actually do the work are career government employees that report to trump's mouthpiece
    Probably went unnoticed by most. GOP congress just had an 1876 law reinstated that allows government civil service employee's salaries to be reduced to $1 at the pleasure of the bosses they serve. This will allow for Trump to fire anyone he perceives as disloyal and fill the jobs with those that toe the party line. Interestingly this is one the same laws Hitler introduced when he rose to power. He has already asked for lists in federal departments of people who favor policies he does not agree with. Another insidious move to abet Trump's move toward authoritarian control.

    Congress Can Now Cut the Pay of Individual Civil Servants

    This must indeed be the beginning of the end times. Armageddon is upon us and the four horsemen of the apocalypse are already within earshot.

    Yessir the Donald will do it all....the era of the snowflakes is over and Hitler has been resurrected for all of us to see.......

    PS Just read where that great luminary Rosie O'Donnell has called for "martial law" to stop Donald from swearing in.......another golden libtard moment....

    OOps forgot the link.....can't post anything without a fuking link, can we......

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    Don't you have your hands full fretting about Jason Trudeau Kompanyman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Don't you have your hands full fretting about Jason Trudeau Kompanyman?
    You mean Justin Trudeau? No I don't fret about him at all. I accept the duly elected leader and support him; not because I like him, but because it's an important post where failure or success can have a profound effect of the whole country and it's people. Sensible mature people don't try to destroy the leader and wish him failure just because he was not their personal choice.

    Justin is a classic snowflake that spent most of his youth being a dope smokin ski-bum (in my neighborhood actually) and has never held down a real job in his entire life, but Canada has enough stupidity in it's electorate to vote him in based on his soap opera looks, and charm. He seems to spend more time attending gay parades and jet-set parties than doing political shit, but the libtard voters do appreciate him and his sunny ways. Libtards are not interested in real leadership so they are happy enough for now.

    Kind of a polar opposite to Donald Trump but fortunately for Trudeau, he now has the Donald as a mentor. so he should be able to manage things OK....he has a few good people around him, but mostly he has surrounded himself with awful PC, leftist social climbers that will have to be thrown under the bus sooner rather than later.

    Once he grows up under the guiding hand of the Donald, he may even become a proper PM, although he may suffer a bit on the TV talk-show circuit. if he's seen in the same room with your new President...

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    . Sensible mature people don't try to destroy the leader and wish him failure just because he was not their personal choice
    So in your view criticism is the same as trying to destroy him? Do you expect blind obediance and loyalty? Certainly wasn't there for Obama. Principled opposition is both protected and expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    . Sensible mature people don't try to destroy the leader and wish him failure just because he was not their personal choice
    So in your view criticism is the same as trying to destroy him? Do you expect blind obediance and loyalty? Certainly wasn't there for Obama. Principled opposition is both protected and expected.
    Please stop being ridiculous. Most people are fine with constructive criticism and opposition....but constant malicious character assassination, street riots and calls for martial law, are hardly constructive....regardless of political stripe. I did not agree with much of what was hurled at Obama either. Some of it was a national disgrace, but now it's being repeated...only worse that ever. That's no way to run any country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    street riots and calls for martial law, are hardly constructive
    Get a grip. You're taking anecdotal, marginalized incidents and crying fire. There is no armed uprising as you seem to be fantasizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    street riots and calls for martial law, are hardly constructive
    Get a grip. You're taking anecdotal, marginalized incidents and crying fire. There is no armed uprising as you seem to be fantasizing.
    Who said anything about an armed uprising FFS? ....and you accuse ME of fantasizing. There is no "fire" either, but these "marginalized incidents are exactly the kind of thing people like you love to bring into a discussion when it suits your position.

    It's not the importance or magnitude of the incidents that matter so much as the amount of airtime they get or how much spin the press can get out of them.

    There has been, as I've already stated, a constant bombardment of vitriol, personal attacks, spurious accusations of every kind, street "protests"...idiot celebrities telling us that they were moving out of the US.... Just a total libardtard anxiety overload about nothing.

    No acceptance of the reality of what actually happened in the election...from a spoiled, immature, entitled and profoundly nasty section of American society that has come to believe that democratic process is only valid if they get what THEY want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    armed uprising
    Alright, street riots, your term. Quibble away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    It's not the importance or magnitude of the incidents that matter so much as the amount of airtime they get or how much spin the press can get out of them.
    So it's the amount of airtime, which is minimal in reality, that determines whether there is an effort to 'destroy' him?

    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    There has been, as I've already stated, a constant bombardment of vitriol, personal attacks, spurious accusations of every kind, street "protests"...idiot celebrities telling us that they were moving out of the US.... Just a total libardtard anxiety overload about nothing
    And celebrities voicing legitimate criticism equates to 'destroying' him?

    His transition has been a total disaster. His approval rating is now at 36%, lower than when he won the election. The whole transition has been pandering to his base instead by complaining about the intelligence agencies, Obama, Clinton and the press and his critics via twitter. He yet to get out of campaign mode. Maybe when he starts acting presidential people will give him some space.

    Now whine about me twisting your words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    armed uprising
    Alright, street riots, your term. Quibble away.
    Hardly quibbling to point out the difference between your "armed uprising", versus my street riot. The libtard press called some of these riots "protests" but lets not quibble over such minor points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    So it's the amount of airtime, which is minimal in reality, that determines whether there is an effort to 'destroy' him?
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert
    And celebrities voicing legitimate criticism equates to 'destroying' him?
    So, now you have decided to take a general comment made in a post about Justin Trudeau and the way civilized people deal with election outcomes, and repeat it over and over in connection to my observations about the disgusting behavior of certain elements in the US after Trumps win? You twist and turn like a worm on a hot rock....

    What do you think the purpose of all the street protests, celebrity venting, insulting, name calling and general hysteria is about if not to "destroy" Trump. These kinds of things have become the stuff of American political life, but it's not the kind of stuff usually associated with a civilized society.

    We don't have to personally like our elected leaders, or have voted for them in order to show some respect and accept the result of a fair election won under the existing rules. That is a fairly common trait in civilized and orderly societies.

    Waiting for the next election and the opportunity to change the leadership is usually available as an alternative to rioting, if our guy loses out to the competition unexpectedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CSFFan
    The people that actually do the work are career government employees that report to trump's mouthpiece
    Probably went unnoticed by most. GOP congress just had an 1876 law reinstated that allows government civil service employee's salaries to be reduced to $1 at the pleasure of the bosses they serve. This will allow for Trump to fire anyone he perceives as disloyal and fill the jobs with those that toe the party line. Interestingly this is one the same laws Hitler introduced when he rose to power. He has already asked for lists in federal departments of people who favor policies he does not agree with. Another insidious move to abet Trump's move toward authoritarian control.

    Congress Can Now Cut the Pay of Individual Civil Servants
    Can they do that without the cooperation of the Dems?
    What's your source or is this more fake news?
    Edit: oops I just noticed you provided a link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    but it's not the kind of stuff usually associated with a civilized society
    Wrong. It's not your sleepy, frozen country. America has a tradition of protest. Civil rights, the Viet Nam war. It gets people's attention and facilitates change. Thank god Americans have the courage to exercise their first amendment rights.

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    "Civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis says he doesn't see President-elect Donald Trump as a "legitimate" commander in chief following Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    "I don't see this President-elect as a legitimate president," Lewis, a Georgia Democrat, told NBC News' Chuck Todd in a clip released Friday. "I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected. And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton."

    John Lewis: Donald Trump is not a 'legitimate' president - CNNPolitics.com

    What a load of crap. Trump won end of!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo
    What's your source or is this more fake news?
    I posted a link. Why are you calling fake news? There are other sources of the same news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    "Civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis says he doesn't see President-elect Donald Trump as a "legitimate" commander in chief following Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

    "I don't see this President-elect as a legitimate president," Lewis, a Georgia Democrat, told NBC News' Chuck Todd in a clip released Friday. "I think the Russians participated in helping this man get elected. And they helped destroy the candidacy of Hillary Clinton."

    John Lewis: Donald Trump is not a 'legitimate' president - CNNPolitics.com

    What a load of crap. Trump won end of!
    He's earned a right to his opinion. I wouldn't have stated it that way but maybe if Trump had reached out to people instead of bunkering and tweeting he would have felt differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post

    He's earned a right to his opinion. .
    Not really, he's a paid political servant, not a political pundit.

    The people have spoken in regard to Trump.

    The Donald is the President elect.

    Unless his constituency is demanding this action, then he should STFU and get on with his own business of representing his constituency.

    Very likely the people will fire him come the next election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koman
    So, now you have decided to take a general comment made in a post about Justin Trudeau and the way civilized people deal with election outcomes, and repeat it over and over in connection to my observations about the disgusting behavior of certain elements in the US after Trumps win? You twist and turn like a worm on a hot rock....
    I took exception to your characterization that Trump's critics are trying to 'destroy the leader'.
    I said that criticism is not the same as trying to destroy him.
    And now you are complaining that I am twisting your comments.
    If you would think before you shoot your mouth off you would have my objections.

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