Thread: Environment: Ecological suicide

Originally Posted by OhOh

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Especially the Chinese and subcontintentals, they're like fucking locusts.

Well, Mr Population Growth Guru, some question your numbers:

Originally Posted by wasabi

and the population has trebled in 20 years. The EU and U.S.A political elite ignore this.

I was under the impression that the Africans are a starving lot. Time to stop the aid and food parcels eh.

Yes, as usual you missed the point entirely.

Rank Continent Population 2016
1 Asia 4,436,224,000
2 Africa 1,216,130,000
3 Europe 738,849,000
4 N America 579,024,000

Well the OP was more about how corporate consumerism is fucking up the planet's shit.
I suppose too many people might be a problem for the priviliged and wealthy.
That may be why we have wars and atom bombs.

Anyhow the planet, life and humanity as a whole should have a bill of rights.

The right to clean air, water, the right not to be killed, this should include animals me thinks. Eating dead flesh is nasty when ya think about it.
I northern climates there aint no way around eating some meat. Still we dont really need to eat that much.

The explosion of obesity around the planet is stricking indeed.

They should close Walmart for that reason alone, too many fat blobs waddling about consuming and consuming..

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastleTry

educating women in the third world about family planning. It works.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Physically it's possible, culturally, until money is provided for them in their old age from a government run tax and benefits system, they will continue to rely on their children's monthly "presents".

Bangladesh family planning initiative.
Impact: As a result of the program, virtually all women in Bangladesh are aware of modern family planning methods. The current use of contraception among married women increased from 8 percent in the mid-1970s to about 60 percent in 2004, and fertility decreased from an average of more than six children per woman in 1975 to slightly more than three. Although social and economic improvements have played a major role in increasing demand for contraception, the provision of services and information has been shown to have had an independent effect on attitudes and behavior.
CASE 13: Reducing fertility in Bangladesh | Center For Global Development

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The true key to learning is having the ability to ask the right questions.

Correct, and the only way to know which questions are the right ones is to understand the issues. Your blog fed anti establishment rants prove that you don't have that understanding.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Well the OP was more about how corporate consumerism is fucking up the planet's shit.
I suppose too many people might be a problem for the priviliged and wealthy.
That may be why we have wars and atom bombs.

Anyhow the planet, life and humanity as a whole should have a bill of rights.

The right to clean air, water, the right not to be killed, this should include animals me thinks. Eating dead flesh is nasty when ya think about it.
I northern climates there aint no way around eating some meat. Still we dont really need to eat that much.

The explosion of obesity around the planet is stricking indeed.

They should close Walmart for that reason alone, too many fat blobs waddling about consuming and consuming..
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Superb thesis earl. Without the Harvard referencing it's just another useless opinion. You should have posted it in the daily rant thread.

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Well the OP was more about how corporate consumerism is fucking up the planet's shit.
I suppose too many people might be a problem for the priviliged and wealthy.
That may be why we have wars and atom bombs.

Anyhow the planet, life and humanity as a whole should have a bill of rights.

The right to clean air, water, the right not to be killed, this should include animals me thinks. Eating dead flesh is nasty when ya think about it.
I northern climates there aint no way around eating some meat. Still we dont really need to eat that much.

The explosion of obesity around the planet is stricking indeed.

They should close Walmart for that reason alone, too many fat blobs waddling about consuming and consuming..
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Superb thesis earl. Without the Harvard referencing it's just another useless opinion. You should have posted it in the daily rant thread.

It seems pretty obvious that the eco-warrior anti-capitalist brigade are yet to face up to the ultimate destination of their statist dream:



There are just too many people. Everything else is dancing around that fact. It's simple maths. The Earth and all its resources are a finite, closed system, you increase one variable, it will have an impact. The variable of anthropomorphic climate change puts the focus on climate rather than the anthropo- bit. You can have the same level of industrialisation with a much lower global human population, and dramatically reduce the impact of that industrialisation on global systems. It's obvious, but never discussed.

http://thoughts.arup.com/post/detail...ot-more-people

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The true key to learning is having the ability to ask the right questions.

Correct, and the only way to know which questions are the right ones is to understand the issues. Your blog fed anti establishment rants prove that you don't have that understanding.

Fucking hilarious....

You simply made my point for me you fucking moron.

"Blog fed"

So if the information is not from your approved biased source it is automaticaly invalid.

What a fucking joke your are, all you have to do is look around you and see a fucking planet choking on plastic and petro chemical residue.

Can't you see it you fucking moron...un fucking believable......

You're right about the Africans though...

New report confirms grim outlook for elephants - BBC News

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

So if the information is not from Earls approved biased source it is automaticaly invalid

.....?
Your sources are invalid because they are just opinions, like yours. The main issue is still your lack of understanding, and you have zero experiential learning. Talk to me again when YOU have spent a year conducting breeding bird surveys on uninhabited islands. Watching young seabirds fighting to escape as they hatch under plastic fishing nets, or polystyrene fridge doors above the strand line. It's no joke but you are.

^the sad aspect here is so called educated people like yourself are unwilling to discuss the deep cultural changes necessary for saving the planet.
It is very clear the answers are not going to come from western government who indeed are a big part of the problem, hence the reason for the OP. Too bad you are too bloody thick to bother reading it.
But I suppose it is just another day of stalking and trolling for chuck the multinicker.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Oops I do not remember starting this thread...

But some good ideas nonetheless. 555


Hey! I got so many scars from being stupid, I don't need no tatoos.

This post aptly demonstrates your level of sobriety and ineptitude, you pointless windmilling throbber. At least you are honest enough to admit your stupidity.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

^the sad aspect here is so called educated people like yourself are unwilling to discuss the deep cultural changes necessary for saving the planet.
It is very clear the answers are not going to come from western government who indeed are a big part of the problem, hence the reason for the OP.

Indeed.
Why don't you address the issue and contribute something positive to the thread, Duke / Chas ?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Why don't you address the issue and contribute something positive to the thread, Duke

Do you mean positive contributions like yours and earls.
No thanks. This is the wrong place, and people like you and earl lack real knowledge and understanding. Why would I share years of experience and practical skills with idiots on an anonymous Thai forum?

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Why don't you address the issue and contribute something positive to the thread, Duke

Do you mean positive contributions like yours and earls.
No thanks. This is the wrong place, and people like you and earl lack real knowledge and understanding. Why would I share years of experience and practical skills with idiots on an anonymous Thai forum?

You keep saying that and what a fucking expert you are on the subject wittout any factual references.
No factual references means you are talking shit as usual.
No factual references means you're just another shit for brains stalker, trolling multinicker.

The planet is in experiencing an ecological disaster largely caused by dirty human industries.

Seems to me chuck, you are the one incapable of asking the really hard questions regarding the envirionment because it might inconvenience your motorcar and shake you blind faith in governmemt.

You cannot deny the planet is in a very serious ecological crisis, and it is largely caused by a culture of human avarice.
So pray tell, chuck how is my knowledge and understanding failing? Strikes me you be coming up short in both departments.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

you cannot deny the planet is in a very serious ecological crisis

Please show where I have denied it.

Look earl you are an ill informed loon with a penchant for surface drama. My time is much too valuable to waste it explaining why you are such a shallow twerp.

I do object to your single strand attacks on the establishment when there are so many people involved in reaching a satisfactory conclusion. With so many players involved and so many agendas, a compromise is inevitable. Something the earl solution does not even consider.
You have not used any scientific evidence to support your fantasy either. I know why, do you?
I'm no expert earl, but my experience and qualifications place your sham of concern in a world of darkness.

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle

My time is much too valuable to waste it explaining why you are such a shallow twerp.

So valuable , yet you take the time to troll and ruin a well-intentioned thread.

Earl's heart and mind are both in the right place, whereas you miss out on both counts.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

So valuable , yet you take the time to troll and ruin a well-intentioned thread.

Earl's heart and mind are both in the right place, whereas you miss out on both counts.

Ah another mouth breather with no depth.

You arrived late to the debate so you missed the stuff on idealism. So shallow you never bothered to read the thread before commenting.

I post because it is important that other imbeciles are not fooled by earls simplicity. No one ever solved a complex issue by shouting the same idealist mantra loudly.

Originally Posted by TheDukeofNewcastle

No one ever solved a complex issue by shouting the same idealist mantra loudly.

How about ( just for starters) : "Free Nelson Mandela" ?


...."the Power of One"

And in Australia : "From little things, big things grow" (the beginning of aboriginal land rights, culminating in the Mabo legislation).


You turkey, Chuck.

^ You're dreaming!

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

The planet is in experiencing an ecological disaster largely caused by dirty human industries.

Depression the biggest curse.
If you can agree with; the world is me, me is the world.
Why alcohol and drug taking are favourite past-times to get one out of it or off their head.
To blank out our reality. of bs on many fronts.
The subtle insults fostered on the mind.

So it's not only the outside but the disaster is also on the inside. Yes?

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

Your contentious participation in this thread is proof enough.

No it isn't. Try again, this is typical of your lack of depth.

Originally Posted by Latindancer

How about ( just for starters) : "Free Nelson Mandela" ?


...."the Power of One"

Just how dim can you get FFS?

Originally Posted by Latindancer

And in Australia : "From little things, big things grow" (the beginning of aboriginal land rights, culminating in the Mabo legislation).

Yes, that's really working well from your middle class white mans perspective dummy.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

It is indeed the dimwitted arogance of so called educated experts like yourself who actually sustain, if not contribute to the environmental crisis.

What you are indeed expert at chuck, is quibbling, a master quibbler.

While the experts quibble more people die every day, more life is disrespected, and the planet suffers.

The poor people dying of lung diseases in the poluted cities aren't helped by your quibbling, nor are the fish in the sea choking on plastic garbage helped by your self absorbed, self serving quibbling.

Face it chuck so called educated expert people like yourself are indeed a very big part of the problem.

The question of cultural change is a valid one which you have repeatedly failed to address.

All you can say is that there is a very complex problem that you clearly do not understand. Instead of having a go at someone who does understand by quoting feeble platitudes, try doing something positive to understand just one of the thousands of real environmental issues.
Once you understand one issue, and recognise that there are thousands of others, and they all interconnected, you might just grasp the enormity of it.
You can't even remember starting the tattoo thread you pathetic nincompoop.
Shallow does not even begin to describe your understanding of environmental issues. You have also chosen to ignore any question I have asked you, instead firing back more pathetic personal remarks. Fine advocate with great debating skills.