Thread: Another Israeli/Palestinian Atrocity

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by Maanaam

The man was not trying to sacrifice his son. He was teasing the soldiers.

Yeah, sounds like a fun thing to do. Spending some prime time with your kid there.

Israel has made life miserable for the Palestinians.
Where should Dad take his son for some "prime time"? The rubble lot? The ruins of their family home? All the green parks with swings and grass are out of bounds to Palestinians, and watered with water that Palestinians need to drink.

The reverse is true.
Arab states have sworn to eliminate Israel, and exterminate all Jews.

You've highlighted "Israel has made life miserable for the Palestinians" and stated the reverse is true. That implies Israel has NOT made life miserable for the Palestinians and that the Palestinians have made life miserable for Israelis.

How so, on both counts.
Logical and to the point reply, please.

Don't try and be smart with me.
Arabs have sworn to eliminate Israel and exterminate all Jews, and Israelis.

The highlighting was to draw your attention to what you said, the reverse of which is true.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Poor kid

Yeah, nothing would be better for the kids welfare than seeing his father shot dead in front of him.

Germans are tough, they don't mind, it builds character.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Yeah, sounds like a fun thing to do. Spending some prime time with your kid there.

Israel has made life miserable for the Palestinians.
Where should Dad take his son for some "prime time"? The rubble lot? The ruins of their family home? All the green parks with swings and grass are out of bounds to Palestinians, and watered with water that Palestinians need to drink.

The reverse is true.
Arab states have sworn to eliminate Israel, and exterminate all Jews.

You've highlighted "Israel has made life miserable for the Palestinians" and stated the reverse is true. That implies Israel has NOT made life miserable for the Palestinians and that the Palestinians have made life miserable for Israelis.

How so, on both counts.
Logical and to the point reply, please.

Don't try and be smart with me.
Arabs have sworn to eliminate Israel and exterminate all Jews, and Israelis.

The highlighting was to draw your attention to what you said, the reverse of which is true.

Sorry Ent, I'm not being smart with you, but you are being rather dim and illogical.
I may as well simply reply to you that the zionists have sworn to rule over all the land from the river to the sea, and to exterminate or drive out all the Arabs.....but that's not pertinent to the subject at hand.
The subject at hands is Hans suggesting the father should spend quality time with the son. I asked where, offered a few questioning suggestions. You reply with something utterly irrational.

Look, I know you don't like being reminded that Israel has reduced to rubble anywhere Arab children can play, and that the Israelis do have green parks and that the grass is watered with water that Palestinians own and need for drinking, but trying to spin it into something else doesn't change the facts.

So, tell us, on Hans's behalf, where the dad should take the boy to play.

Originally Posted by ENT

Stop twisting the truth.

The only ones wanting the lot for themselves are the surrounding Arab states.

How is it wrong for A to want back what B helped C to steal?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Originally Posted by ENT

A pack of lies.

1. Opinion is not lying. It's opinion.
2. Care to be specific as to what is a lie?

By golly ENT, a red and "Lying multi-nic bastard"?
Care to say who my other nic is? I assure you, you will be wrong as I have never had any other nic on TD.
And again...where did I lie? Point out the lie.
It's very immature to call someone a liar (and bastard) just because you don't like the truth he says or because you disagree.
Someone with valid, logical arguments to what I post would bring them up. Insults and reds just show you have no logical argument.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Poor kid

Yeah, nothing would be better for the kids welfare than seeing his father shot dead in front of him.

The usual stupid blind bigotry from Aunty.

If you're so concerned about the welfare of such a child, try convincing the father to keep his son out of trouble, instead of encouraging the child to embrace danger and suicide, as he did!

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by ENT

Stop twisting the truth.

The only ones wanting the lot for themselves are the surrounding Arab states.

How is it wrong for A to want back what B helped C to steal?

Grow a brain jabber jabber.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Poor kid

Yeah, nothing would be better for the kids welfare than seeing his father shot dead in front of him.

The usual stupid blind bigotry from Aunty.

If you're so concerned about the welfare of such a child, try convincing the father to keep his son out of trouble, instead of encouraging the child to embrace danger and suicide, as he did!

"A forum for civil discussion and exchange of ideas. No flaming or abuse allowed. All posts should include your opinion on the subject, not your opinion of the member posting."

Oh dear, the old goats off on one of his rants again.

The real debate is the endless illegal activity in the 'occupied territories', forcing Palestinians out of there homes and replacing them with Israeli settlers...

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Poor kid

Yeah, nothing would be better for the kids welfare than seeing his father shot dead in front of him.

Seems to me the father doesn't give a rats ass about his welfare in the first place.

Maybe, maybe not. The point is seeing his father shot in front of him isn't going to help anyone is it.

^^
Could be the dad sees no future for his child, just as his dad saw none for him when he was a child. Can lead to frustration, anger, and just a bit of other things, no?

Originally Posted by Maanaam

Where should Dad take his son for some "prime time"?

You have already answered that question: "Hey kid, lets go out today and tease some israeli soldiers."

Originally Posted by Maanaam

All the green parks with swings and grass are out of bounds to Palestinians, and watered with water that Palestinians need to drink.

I think after spending some prime time teasing israeli soldiers,good ole dad took him to one of the palestine summer camps.

Thousands of teens enroll in Hamas summer camps

O.K. have to admit...no green trees, but plenty of burning rubber tires.

Originally Posted by jabir

^^
Could be the dad sees no future for his child, just as his dad saw none for him when he was a child. Can lead to frustration, anger, and just a bit of other things, no?

Is that a poor attempt at an excuse or an apology?

Maybe he was simply psychologically disturbed.
"Mental issues" is the new buzz-term for that kind of thing, isn't it?

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by wasabi

Didn't the Republicans in Northern Ireland use children as well, to provoke.

Yes they did, most notable on 'Bloody Sunday' when they were used to provoke the Paras by throwing projectiles etc.

So where are the children you fooking liar ,

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Maybe, maybe not. The point is seeing his father shot in front of him isn't going to help anyone is it.

Listen, I know you up for the elction of TD drama queen, but please stay realistic. No one here on TD wants any father or child to get shot. The behaviour of the father is unexcuseable and he simply overstepped the red line.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

No one here on TD wants any father or child to get shot

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Perhaps you should be more heedful of what you post then, Herman.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Maybe, maybe not. The point is seeing his father shot in front of him isn't going to help anyone is it.

Listen, I know you up for the elction of TD drama queen,

He's too late Loy Toy won that award for he's the biggest DRAMA Queen in Thailand ,

Originally Posted by jabir

^^
Could be the dad sees no future for his child, just as his dad saw none for him when he was a child. Can lead to frustration, anger, and just a bit of other things, no?

NO FUTURE ? Is that a fate that solely belongs to Palestinians in this world ?
Maybe another race, people, religion, ethnicity, etc. would have handled the situation differently, no ?

Originally Posted by snakeeyes

He's too late Loy Toy won that award for he's the biggest DRAMA Queen in Thailand ,
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Something off topic my shamrock friend (hope I can squeeze it in here).
Died 100 years ago today:

Roger Casement

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/07/tr...ment.html?_r=0

Originally Posted by ENT

And while we're at it who the hell are you referring to as Hans, you racist bigot?

My mistake, I had in mind Hans Mann....but see now it was Herrman. No racism there, but a simple mistake. Calm down, you're getting hysterical.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by jabir

^^
Could be the dad sees no future for his child, just as his dad saw none for him when he was a child. Can lead to frustration, anger, and just a bit of other things, no?

NO FUTURE ? Is that a fate that solely belongs to Palestinians in this world ?
Maybe another race, people, religion, ethnicity, etc. would have handled the situation differently, no ?

Quite right you are and people do handle different situations in different ways, that's why they are called individuals. Many will accept the situation, dust themselves off and get on with life as best they can, while others will stand their ground and sacrifice themselves and their family in defiance of injustice. Palestinians fall into the second category, and regardless of personal suffering and indiscriminate slaughter they survive and remain a permanent thorn in the side of the international community, and a reminder that they will never accept the ongoing humiliation and neglect.

As a benchmark, how would you handle, or respond, to your ancestral lands being taken and occupied, while your family are herded into squalour with what they can carry and where generations thereafter are born, grow up and die?

Of course it's speculative, in particular for Europeans that would rather not confess they know nothing of such real life adversity, which conveniently allows them to criticise those that do.

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by jabir

^^
Could be the dad sees no future for his child, just as his dad saw none for him when he was a child. Can lead to frustration, anger, and just a bit of other things, no?

NO FUTURE ? Is that a fate that solely belongs to Palestinians in this world ?
Maybe another race, people, religion, ethnicity, etc. would have handled the situation differently, no ?

Quite right you are and people do handle different situations in different ways, that's why they are called individuals. Many will accept the situation, dust themselves off and get on with life as best they can, while others will stand their ground and sacrifice themselves and their family in defiance of injustice. Palestinians fall into the second category, and regardless of personal suffering and indiscriminate slaughter they survive and remain a permanent thorn in the side of the international community, and a reminder that they will never accept the ongoing humiliation and neglect.

As a benchmark, how would you handle, or respond, to your ancestral lands being taken and occupied, while your family are herded into squalour with what they can carry and where generations thereafter are born, grow up and die?

Of course it's speculative, in particular for Europeans that would rather not confess they know nothing of such real life adversity, which conveniently allows them to criticise those that do.

Cry me a bloody river!
What a pitiful yowl! Do you actually believe what you've just burbled out? Do you think that the poor Palis are the only ones to get beaten up and dumped on? Europeans never did? If so, you really need a reality check. Talk to your doctor.

And, can you point out which insane god-given right does someone need to arrogantly presume to sacrifice one's family in defiance of another? Who the hell could be that cowardly and selfish? None, other than a stupid fanatic Arab or a Palestinian!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Those Pali munters are good at that.

Originally Posted by jabir

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Should have shot the father !

Poor kid

Yeah, nothing would be better for the kids welfare than seeing his father shot dead in front of him.

Germans are tough, they don't mind, it builds character.

Bit of a myth....