Sponsored, bought and paid for by trade unions. Do their bidding or they find another one who will. Tory elites sponsored by Murdoch et al. Same shite different rosette.Originally Posted by piwanoi
Sponsored, bought and paid for by trade unions. Do their bidding or they find another one who will. Tory elites sponsored by Murdoch et al. Same shite different rosette.Originally Posted by piwanoi
Are you doing your A levels this year?
Labour grassroots members are in open revolt over a series of restrictions imposed by the party’s ruling national executive over the leadership contest – with some branches holding unofficial meetings in defiance of a ban imposed nationally earlier this week.
Labour branches in London, the Midlands, Liverpool and elsewhere all defied the order and organised impromptu events, reflecting unhappiness in some parts of the party’s membership at the decision taken at the same meeting that confirmed that Jeremy Corbyn would be on the leadership ballot.
After Corbyn’s candidacy was validated, the NEC ruled that only those who had been members for more than six months would be allowed to vote, while new supporters wishing to cast their vote would be given two days to sign up as registered supporters. They will have to pay £25, far more than the £3 many Corbyn-backers paid in the contest last year.
Pro-Corbyn members are also protesting over the suspension of all constituency party meetings until the election for leader is over at the end of September. In Wallasey, the Merseyside constituency of Angela Eagle – one of the two challengers to Corbyn – members booked a hall for a meeting of the New Brighton branch on Wednesday night. It went ahead as an informal meeting of Labour members rather than an official event.
At the end of the two-hour meeting, a vote of no confidence in Eagle was passed by 54 to nine. In a second vote, they unanimously rejected the £25 membership fee, which one of those in the hall denounced as “a surcharge on democracy”.
Members at the meeting accused the national executive of trying to exclude the tens of thousands who had joined since the attempt to remove Corbyn a fortnight ago. Kathy Miller, secretary of the Wallasey constituency party, said 369 new members had joined her branch since 24 June , bringing the total to 1,221.
Sarah Henney, a member who was also at the meeting, said she was upset at the attitude of the parliamentary Labour party (PLP) towards members. “What other organisations do you get that holds its members in such contempt?” she asked.
She ran through a list of MPs who she said had referred to members as “Trots, rabble and dogs”. In response, she set up the hashtag #TrotsRabbleDogs on Twitter, which proved popular. “I am just a working mum. I am not Momentum [the organisation set up in the autumn to support Corbyn]. I would not call myself a Corbynista,” she said, adding that she was dismayed by what she believed to be a coup against the current leader.
Several speakers at the meeting expressed support for Eagle and were listened to respectfully without interruption.
A spokesperson for Eagle said: “The meeting in New Brighton was not an official Labour party branch meeting as all Labour party meetings have been suspended for the leadership election.
Labour’s right is a shambles – but Corbyn has questions to answer too
“We do not know who was invited to the meeting and if the attendees were selected by the meeting’s organiser. The meeting’s organiser is a known disruptive influence in the Labour party who deselected another sitting Merseyside MP, Frank Field, in the 1990s. He had been expelled from the Labour party until around a year ago.”
After the meeting, members continued the discussion in a nearby pub. Corbyn addressed the gathering by speakerphone, delivering a broad statement on social and economic policy.
In neighbouring Birkenhead, constituency officials turned up for a branch meeting at the local pub even though it technically had been cancelled. Officials were concerned new members would arrive and there would be no one to greet them. About half a dozen did, as well as about a dozen representatives and members who held a lively debate about the suspension and the bar on new members voting.
The new members included Anne McCluskey, a 46-year-old trainee teacher who had never been a member of a party before. “I was not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn. However, I do not like what has happened. He was voted as leader only a year ago and it looks like a mutiny,” she said. At being barred from voting, she added: “I am amazed that there is a cut-off date. What I am not happy about is you can buy a vote for £25.”
In the Brentford and Isleworth constituency in London, Salman Shaheen said a planned branch meeting had been suspended with four hours’ notice, but 41 members met anyway. He described the suspension and the barring of new members from voting as a “deeply undemocratic move”.
Labour grassroots rebel against NEC restrictions on leadership contest | Politics | The Guardian
Clearly you have no idea how the Labour Party is structured. The Labour Party and the Unions are two sides of the same coin - they are not different. That's a fundamental and it's been that way since the Labour Party started. It's not some bloody secret that you've just stumbled upon. The Labour Party was founded by the Trades Unions to represent their membership. Just a suggestion but have you ever thought about, you know, actually learning about something before opening your mouth to pontificate on it?
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Just a suggestion but have you ever thought about, you know, teaching people to suck eggs for a living, before jumping to conclusions?Originally Posted by DrB0b
The point is, and I suspect you know this already, trade union influence has regained much of the ground it lost under Thatcher. The current leadership and membership clusterfuck is the union influence flexing its muscles. All that internecine public warfare is not only unseemly, it's undemocratic.
Yeah, sure, fine observation no doubt founded on your analytical skills smelted in the crucible of last week's homework which has yet to be marked. You nitwit.
In 1979 TU membership stood at around 13 millions whereas today, scarcely 7 millions.
Regaining lost ground..........?
Thanks for proving my point. Union political influence is currently disproportionate to the numerical decline in membership.Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
Err, the election of a sclerotic, geriatric labour leader by anyone with £3 in their pocket is influence?
FFS gent, these wibbling nincompoops can't even work out who should be on the ballot, never mind who will be allowed to vote.Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
I said they were influential, not competent you idiot.
Without a shadow of doubt Korbynchov is the best thing that could have happened for the Tory party
Jeremy Corbyn has won the right to personally contest a legal bid aimed at taking his name off the Labour leadership ballot.
Labour donor Michael Foster had launched a High Court challenge against the party's decision to automatically include Mr Corbyn in the upcoming leadership election.
That decision had been agreed by Labour's National Executive Committee after conflicting legal advice suggesting that Mr Corbyn should be both included and not included.
Jeremy Corbyn increases dominant lead over Angela Eagle and Owen Smith
Other candidates in the election will have to seek nominations from MPs and MEPs in order to appear on the ballot paper. Mr Corbyn's limited support in the parliamentary party means this would likely be difficult.
Labour's NEC decided that as an already leader Mr Corbyn would not have to seek nominations in order to stand; the party's rulebook was ambiguous on the subject.
The legal challenge against the decision by Mr Foster had named Labour's general secreatry Iain McNicol as the defendent in the case.
However, Mr Corbyn launched a legal bid to get himself included as a second defendant. That bid has now been successful, with the High Court ruling on Wednesday morning.
His lawyers had argued that his own personal interest in defending the litigation was "pressing and obvious" and that he was not adequately represented in the same way as other Labour members by Mr McNichol.
The case of Mr Foster's challenge is now expected to be heard next week on Tuesday July 26, with Mr Corbyn attending court on that date.
The court decision comes a day after former shadow business secretary Angela Eagle dropped out of the Labour leadership race, leaving Owen Smith and Mr Corbyn as the only candidates.
MPs and activists critical of Mr Corbyn and who want him removed believe a unity candidate would be better able to tackle the leader.
A Times/YouGov poll of Labour members however shows the sitting leader with a significant lead.
Jeremy Corbyn wins bid to fight legal action aimed at removing his name from leadership ballot | UK Politics | News | The Independent
Well for any bewildered asspring politicians out there, there is hope as he has managed to aqquire a large support from a mainly bewildered youth who know nothing when the proper Labour support has gone to UKIP, time will tell then.
The Tories are wondering what's hit them.
180,000+ people have paid £25 to become party members in 24hours generating 4.5 million quid for the Labour party.
Maybe they should have put it up to £100 from £3
Most don't realize Jeremy has a brother piers. Piers runs a private weather company where he sells forecasts to businesses who depend on correct weather. This tiny organization is more trusted bye companies dependant on correct weather forecasts then the multibillion dollar Met. Why one reason is the left wing has corrupted many govt agencies including the met who now have to toe the global warming line. Piers corbyn scoffs at it and disregards it in his weather business and makes a fine living from it and the companies trust him not the billion dollar left wing pressured govt weather dept.
Originally Posted by pulvarien
Lord...these socialists really do work in mysterious ways!
If you see Jeremy's country house I could almost be tempted to become a socialist. He hasn't done bad for a career politician who has probably never had a productive job in his life. Believe good old Bernie Saunders in the U.S. wasn't short of a few quid either. Got to love these faux socialists.
It's a myth you right wingers love to perpetuate that any socialist who's made money and has influence has sold out.
You want socialists to be well meaning barely solvent eccentrics because that makes them irrelevant.
It's an utterly transparent and puerile standpoint.
It's more to do with how he made his money which you normally find with socialists it's fine for them to have done it but go out of their way to prevent others from doing the same. Is Jeremy transparent and open about his massive country pile and how he obtained it? I personally have no idea as only saw the pics of it the other day but I'm guessing it wasn't through being a hardcore socialist.
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